Offensive Playcall Concerns

fhotard · 10-05-2009, 09:10 AM

I loved the fact that they went for it on 4th and 1 at the goal line!

Were we up 10 nothing at that point? I can't remember for sure...
If you take 3 there, Jets need only two TD's to take the lead.

The fact that they didn't make the TD on 4th down resulted in the Jets being pinned at their own goal line, with a rookie QB, on the road, in a dome, against an aggressive D. It was a recipe for success in my opinion.

CantonLegend · 10-05-2009, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by fhotard

It was a recipe for success in my opinion.

a recipe for success is taking the points

our offense struggles but our defense was playing well.......let the points accumulate slowly and add up.....our defense will hold them but only for so long....do we take the points then give the ball back, or miss the 4th down play and then give the ball back?

always always take the points

FireVenturi · 10-05-2009, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

a recipe for success is taking the points

our offense struggles but our defense was playing well.......let the points accumulate slowly and add up.....our defense will hold them but only for so long....do we take the points then give the ball back, or miss the 4th down play and then give the ball back?

always always take the points

If we kick it, we get three instead of seven.
when we turned it over on downs, Sanchez fumbled in the end zone and we got seven. If I'm coaching, there isn't many situations I dont go for it from the 1 yd line.

CantonLegend · 10-05-2009, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by FireVenturi

If I'm coaching

im not going to say it......but you know i could

in hindsight its alright.....in the middle of the game its never the best thing to do

FireVenturi · 10-05-2009, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

im not going to say it......but you know i could

in hindsight its alright.....in the middle of the game its never the best thing to do

It works on Madden, lol....

CantonLegend · 10-05-2009, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by FireVenturi

It works on Madden, lol....

lol you're gonna have to teach me those tricks then cuz im terrible at madden

skymike · 10-05-2009, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by FireVenturi

"im not going to say it......but you know i could

in hindsight its alright....".

It works on Madden, lol....

thats some nice "hindsight you got
there.

CantonLegend · 10-05-2009, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

thats some nice "hindsight you got
there.

you know whats funny about your avatar?........mine is bigger

fhotard · 10-05-2009, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

a recipe for success is taking the points

our offense struggles but our defense was playing well.......let the points accumulate slowly and add up.....our defense will hold them but only for so long....do we take the points then give the ball back, or miss the 4th down play and then give the ball back?

always always take the points

In many (most?) cases, I'd agree... take the points. But the Saints' D had been playing well so far. And with the Jets having a pretty good record at 3-0, I was all for trying to stretch the lead as much as possible.

There are times to kick, and there are times to go for it. In my opinion, that was a "Go for it" moment... a situation where an aggressive attitude and an aggressive call was appropriate.

You also have to consider where you're giving the ball back. By not making the TD, N.O. gave it back at the goal line... given the circumstances I'd mentioned, something good should (and did) come out of that.

If, at that point, they let the Jets drive all the way down and score, they deserved it. I figured, worse case for the Saints, Jets would go 3 and out, punt from the end zone and give N.O. possesion Jets territory. But, my guess was wrong... The D came up with a big play and scored.

CantonLegend · 10-05-2009, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by fhotard

In many (most?) cases, I'd agree... take the points. But the Saints' D had been playing well so far. And with the Jets having a pretty good record at 3-0, I was all for trying to stretch the lead as much as possible.

There are times to kick, and there are times to go for it. In my opinion, that was a "Go for it" moment... a situation where an aggressive attitude and an aggressive call was appropriate.

You also have to consider where you're giving the ball back. By not making the TD, N.O. gave it back at the goal line... given the circumstances I'd mentioned, something good should (and did) come out of that.

If, at that point, they let the Jets drive all the way down and score, they deserved it. I figured, worse case for the Saints, Jets would go 3 and out, punt from the end zone and give N.O. possesion Jets territory. But, my guess was wrong... The D came up with a big play and scored.

hell....as a fan i was screaming at my tv....i wanted them to go for it so bad and make the jets play catch up the rest of the game.....but the coach in me was saying, be smart....take the points...we'll need them later

10-05-2009, 09:10 AM	#1
fhotard 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 263	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns I loved the fact that they went for it on 4th and 1 at the goal line! Were we up 10 nothing at that point? I can't remember for sure... If you take 3 there, Jets need only two TD's to take the lead. The fact that they didn't make the TD on 4th down resulted in the Jets being pinned at their own goal line, with a rookie QB, on the road, in a dome, against an aggressive D. It was a recipe for success in my opinion.

10-05-2009, 09:16 AM	#2
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by fhotard It was a recipe for success in my opinion. a recipe for success is taking the points our offense struggles but our defense was playing well.......let the points accumulate slowly and add up.....our defense will hold them but only for so long....do we take the points then give the ball back, or miss the 4th down play and then give the ball back? always always take the points

10-05-2009, 09:24 AM	#3
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by CantonLegend a recipe for success is taking the points our offense struggles but our defense was playing well.......let the points accumulate slowly and add up.....our defense will hold them but only for so long....do we take the points then give the ball back, or miss the 4th down play and then give the ball back? always always take the points If we kick it, we get three instead of seven. when we turned it over on downs, Sanchez fumbled in the end zone and we got seven. If I'm coaching, there isn't many situations I dont go for it from the 1 yd line.

10-05-2009, 09:27 AM	#4
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by FireVenturi If I'm coaching im not going to say it......but you know i could in hindsight its alright.....in the middle of the game its never the best thing to do

10-05-2009, 09:29 AM	#5
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by CantonLegend im not going to say it......but you know i could in hindsight its alright.....in the middle of the game its never the best thing to do It works on Madden, lol....

10-05-2009, 09:51 AM	#6
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by FireVenturi It works on Madden, lol.... lol you're gonna have to teach me those tricks then cuz im terrible at madden

10-05-2009, 03:57 PM	#7
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by FireVenturi "im not going to say it......but you know i could in hindsight its alright....". It works on Madden, lol.... thats some nice "hindsight you got there.

10-05-2009, 04:08 PM	#8
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by skymike thats some nice "hindsight you got there. you know whats funny about your avatar?........mine is bigger

10-05-2009, 11:05 AM	#9
fhotard 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 263	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by CantonLegend a recipe for success is taking the points our offense struggles but our defense was playing well.......let the points accumulate slowly and add up.....our defense will hold them but only for so long....do we take the points then give the ball back, or miss the 4th down play and then give the ball back? always always take the points In many (most?) cases, I'd agree... take the points. But the Saints' D had been playing well so far. And with the Jets having a pretty good record at 3-0, I was all for trying to stretch the lead as much as possible. There are times to kick, and there are times to go for it. In my opinion, that was a "Go for it" moment... a situation where an aggressive attitude and an aggressive call was appropriate. You also have to consider where you're giving the ball back. By not making the TD, N.O. gave it back at the goal line... given the circumstances I'd mentioned, something good should (and did) come out of that. If, at that point, they let the Jets drive all the way down and score, they deserved it. I figured, worse case for the Saints, Jets would go 3 and out, punt from the end zone and give N.O. possesion Jets territory. But, my guess was wrong... The D came up with a big play and scored.

10-05-2009, 11:11 AM	#10
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by fhotard In many (most?) cases, I'd agree... take the points. But the Saints' D had been playing well so far. And with the Jets having a pretty good record at 3-0, I was all for trying to stretch the lead as much as possible. There are times to kick, and there are times to go for it. In my opinion, that was a "Go for it" moment... a situation where an aggressive attitude and an aggressive call was appropriate. You also have to consider where you're giving the ball back. By not making the TD, N.O. gave it back at the goal line... given the circumstances I'd mentioned, something good should (and did) come out of that. If, at that point, they let the Jets drive all the way down and score, they deserved it. I figured, worse case for the Saints, Jets would go 3 and out, punt from the end zone and give N.O. possesion Jets territory. But, my guess was wrong... The D came up with a big play and scored. hell....as a fan i was screaming at my tv....i wanted them to go for it so bad and make the jets play catch up the rest of the game.....but the coach in me was saying, be smart....take the points...we'll need them later