Dolphins - wildcat

SmashMouth · 10-20-2009, 06:09 AM

The Dolphins are in trouble. 18th against the pass, 15th in scoring at 22 points a game, allowing 21.2 points a game ( not a huge differential). It'll be a similar story line for the Fins .... they'll be too far behind and will have to abandon the the tricked out wishbone. This means Henne will be forced to pass .... enter Sharper for another pick six or two. He had one called back this past game. Too much offense for the Fins to handle as the saints are averaging 38.4 points a game!

FinFan · 10-20-2009, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

The Dolphins are in trouble. 18th against the pass, 15th in scoring at 22 points a game, allowing 21.2 points a game ( not a huge differential). It'll be a similar story line for the Fins .... they'll be too far behind and will have to abandon the the tricked out wishbone. This means Henne will be forced to pass .... enter Sharper for another pick six or two. He had one called back this past game. Too much offense for the Fins to handle as the saints are averaging 38.4 points a game!

Hard to argue with most of your points but I will have to call you on one thing. The 22 points a game stat. Keep in mind it's that low because we had Penny behind center for the 1st 3 games. Since Henne has taken over we are averaging 35 a game. Our young (but talented) secondary has also improved each week as well, so I wouldn't get to sucked into those stats you put up they can be deceiving.

With that said this is defiantly a VERY challenging match up for us.

Budsdrinker · 10-20-2009, 08:48 AM

It should be a good game FinFan and I will be there to witness it. I can't wait.

foreverfan · 10-20-2009, 09:05 AM

Love the sig Finfan. I'm not the only one worried about the Dolphins. If you guy get a few turnovers and don't allow the Saints to get ahead early, it will be a good game. Still, one thing about the Saints, they don't play their best football until the 4th quarter.

FinFan · 10-20-2009, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Love the sig Finfan. I'm not the only one worried about the Dolphins. If you guy get a few turnovers and don't allow the Saints to get ahead early, it will be a good game. Still, one thing about the Saints, they don't play their best football until the 4th quarter.

If we can manage to hang in until the 4th a lot of people don't realize what a punishing runner Ronnie is, he loves to hit LB's and safeties. In the 4th he always seems to still be running hard and thats when he starts to really break tackles.

But yeah we will need a few breaks to go our way. For one it's suppose to rain on Sunday with high winds. That might slow your passing game down a bit. The problem is your a heck of a running team yourselves so it's pick your poison with you guys.

foreverfan · 10-20-2009, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by FinFan

If we can manage to hang in until the 4th a lot of people don't realize what a punishing runner Ronnie is, he loves to hit LB's and safeties. In the 4th he always seems to still be running hard and thats when he starts to really break tackles.

But yeah we will need a few breaks to go our way. For one it's suppose to rain on Sunday with high winds. That might slow your passing game down a bit. The problem is your a heck of a running team yourselves so it's pick your poison with you guys.

Well if it's raining and windy, it will be hard to spread you guys out because I don't think you will be that stupid to respect the spread game. Brees doesn't have a cannon for an arm so it would be a great evening factor.

In any case, opposing teams 4th quarter running game hasn't be a problem cause their usually behind by 20. If you only behind by 7 or ahead, it will be a different.

The Saints have 3 #1 picks on the DL and our middle LB is a former #1 also. You don't want to do too many 3 and outs against us. Every team that has tried that has lost. You need to match scores or pray for weather.

saintsfan1976 · 10-20-2009, 09:24 AM

FinFan, your wildcat offense is legit. Henne adds a vertical element to the scheme that you didn't have before and we should be concerned...

I'm sure the fins will score and we'll give up some yards. But your defense must play a near perfect game and your offense can't commit turnovers to one of the most opportunistic defenses in the NFL.

As for time of possession, just remember that our offense is designed to use clock just as well as it is to strike quickly.

FinFan · 10-20-2009, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

FinFan, your wildcat offense is legit. Henne adds a vertical element to the scheme that you didn't have before and we should be concerned...

I'm sure the fins will score and we'll give up some yards. But your defense must play a near perfect game and your offense can't commit turnovers to one of the most opportunistic defenses in the NFL.

As for time of possession, just remember that our offense is designed to use clock just as well as it is to strike quickly.

Yeah I agree we need to play flawless ball to have any kind of a shot. Scary thing is we might play flawless and still lose a close one. I'm very impressed with the Saints this year and if we don't make the playoffs I will be pulling for you guys to win it all. Plus I think Brees is a real class act. That thing he does before the games to pump up the players is really cool as well.

WhoDat205 · 10-20-2009, 09:46 AM

We don't need a tricks or gimmicks to stop the wildcat. We need discipline, discipline, and more discipline. Overload blitzes and crazy twists and stunts are exactly what the WC is designed to exploit.

DEs, LBs and CBs will have to keep containment. The DTs have to hold their gap assignments down and Vilma needs to have a huge day.

Hey FinFan, what MIA board do you post on?

papz · 10-20-2009, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

We don't need a tricks or gimmicks to stop the wildcat. We need discipline, discipline, and more discipline. Overload blitzes and crazy twists and stunts are exactly what the WC is designed to exploit.

DEs, LBs and CBs will have to keep containment. The DTs have to hold their gap assignments down and Vilma needs to have a huge day.

Hey FinFan, what MIA board do you post on?

That's exactly how we need to stop it. As long as we don't over pursue, and everyone keeps there containment, I think we'll be just fine stopping the wildcat. How many times do you think they're actually going to go to this formation? 10 times at most in opinion. Going back to the Florida/Tennessee game (I know it's just college), but we can always bring Harper up and use him like Monte Kiffin did Berry during that game. It's all about discipline. Also if we get out to a big lead, their wildcat will be useless. Just play Saints ball and their wildcat will be an afterthought.

10-20-2009, 07:28 AM	#2
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by SmashMouth The Dolphins are in trouble. 18th against the pass, 15th in scoring at 22 points a game, allowing 21.2 points a game ( not a huge differential). It'll be a similar story line for the Fins .... they'll be too far behind and will have to abandon the the tricked out wishbone. This means Henne will be forced to pass .... enter Sharper for another pick six or two. He had one called back this past game. Too much offense for the Fins to handle as the saints are averaging 38.4 points a game! Hard to argue with most of your points but I will have to call you on one thing. The 22 points a game stat. Keep in mind it's that low because we had Penny behind center for the 1st 3 games. Since Henne has taken over we are averaging 35 a game. Our young (but talented) secondary has also improved each week as well, so I wouldn't get to sucked into those stats you put up they can be deceiving. With that said this is defiantly a VERY challenging match up for us.
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10-20-2009, 08:48 AM	#3
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Dolphins - wildcat It should be a good game FinFan and I will be there to witness it. I can't wait.

10-20-2009, 09:05 AM	#4
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Love the sig Finfan. I'm not the only one worried about the Dolphins. If you guy get a few turnovers and don't allow the Saints to get ahead early, it will be a good game. Still, one thing about the Saints, they don't play their best football until the 4th quarter.

10-20-2009, 09:13 AM	#5
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by foreverfan Love the sig Finfan. I'm not the only one worried about the Dolphins. If you guy get a few turnovers and don't allow the Saints to get ahead early, it will be a good game. Still, one thing about the Saints, they don't play their best football until the 4th quarter. If we can manage to hang in until the 4th a lot of people don't realize what a punishing runner Ronnie is, he loves to hit LB's and safeties. In the 4th he always seems to still be running hard and thats when he starts to really break tackles. But yeah we will need a few breaks to go our way. For one it's suppose to rain on Sunday with high winds. That might slow your passing game down a bit. The problem is your a heck of a running team yourselves so it's pick your poison with you guys.
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10-20-2009, 09:30 AM	#6
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by FinFan If we can manage to hang in until the 4th a lot of people don't realize what a punishing runner Ronnie is, he loves to hit LB's and safeties. In the 4th he always seems to still be running hard and thats when he starts to really break tackles. But yeah we will need a few breaks to go our way. For one it's suppose to rain on Sunday with high winds. That might slow your passing game down a bit. The problem is your a heck of a running team yourselves so it's pick your poison with you guys. Well if it's raining and windy, it will be hard to spread you guys out because I don't think you will be that stupid to respect the spread game. Brees doesn't have a cannon for an arm so it would be a great evening factor. In any case, opposing teams 4th quarter running game hasn't be a problem cause their usually behind by 20. If you only behind by 7 or ahead, it will be a different. The Saints have 3 #1 picks on the DL and our middle LB is a former #1 also. You don't want to do too many 3 and outs against us. Every team that has tried that has lost. You need to match scores or pray for weather.
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10-20-2009, 06:09 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,962 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Dolphins - wildcat The Dolphins are in trouble. 18th against the pass, 15th in scoring at 22 points a game, allowing 21.2 points a game ( not a huge differential). It'll be a similar story line for the Fins .... they'll be too far behind and will have to abandon the the tricked out wishbone. This means Henne will be forced to pass .... enter Sharper for another pick six or two. He had one called back this past game. Too much offense for the Fins to handle as the saints are averaging 38.4 points a game!

10-20-2009, 09:24 AM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,047 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Dolphins - wildcat FinFan, your wildcat offense is legit. Henne adds a vertical element to the scheme that you didn't have before and we should be concerned... I'm sure the fins will score and we'll give up some yards. But your defense must play a near perfect game and your offense can't commit turnovers to one of the most opportunistic defenses in the NFL. As for time of possession, just remember that our offense is designed to use clock just as well as it is to strike quickly.

10-20-2009, 09:52 AM	#8
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 FinFan, your wildcat offense is legit. Henne adds a vertical element to the scheme that you didn't have before and we should be concerned... I'm sure the fins will score and we'll give up some yards. But your defense must play a near perfect game and your offense can't commit turnovers to one of the most opportunistic defenses in the NFL. As for time of possession, just remember that our offense is designed to use clock just as well as it is to strike quickly. Yeah I agree we need to play flawless ball to have any kind of a shot. Scary thing is we might play flawless and still lose a close one. I'm very impressed with the Saints this year and if we don't make the playoffs I will be pulling for you guys to win it all. Plus I think Brees is a real class act. That thing he does before the games to pump up the players is really cool as well.
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10-20-2009, 09:46 AM	#9
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Dolphins - wildcat We don't need a tricks or gimmicks to stop the wildcat. We need discipline, discipline, and more discipline. Overload blitzes and crazy twists and stunts are exactly what the WC is designed to exploit. DEs, LBs and CBs will have to keep containment. The DTs have to hold their gap assignments down and Vilma needs to have a huge day. Hey FinFan, what MIA board do you post on?

10-20-2009, 05:52 PM	#10
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,794	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by WhoDat205 We don't need a tricks or gimmicks to stop the wildcat. We need discipline, discipline, and more discipline. Overload blitzes and crazy twists and stunts are exactly what the WC is designed to exploit. DEs, LBs and CBs will have to keep containment. The DTs have to hold their gap assignments down and Vilma needs to have a huge day. Hey FinFan, what MIA board do you post on? That's exactly how we need to stop it. As long as we don't over pursue, and everyone keeps there containment, I think we'll be just fine stopping the wildcat. How many times do you think they're actually going to go to this formation? 10 times at most in opinion. Going back to the Florida/Tennessee game (I know it's just college), but we can always bring Harper up and use him like Monte Kiffin did Berry during that game. It's all about discipline. Also if we get out to a big lead, their wildcat will be useless. Just play Saints ball and their wildcat will be an afterthought.
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