Dolphins - wildcat

FinFan · 10-20-2009, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by lynwood

From Greg Williams:

What kinds of challenges as a coordinator does the wildcat bring?

"Those are things. Everything's a fad. Everything's a scheme. Everything's a play. It's really no different than the run and shoot, it's no different than the option, it's no different than the power game. It's just another part of the game. The ball has to be advanced, and you're trying to align and prevent the advancement of the ball. It's just one more scheme. It's one more thing and the things you have to be prepared to do. It's the same thing defensively"

I think we will be ready.

Fair enough, but very wrong. No different then the run and shoot? Really? I mean Really? I have heard some of the smartest fans in my life that really know X's and O's on here but you just lowered the bar for your own people. I have gained enough respect for the people on here to allow them to talk sense into you and I will just leave it alone.

lynwood · 10-20-2009, 04:48 PM

He isn't calling it the run and shoot you Dork, He's saying it's like any other Fad or Scheme that you have to prepare for to prevent. Eventually it's all about stopping the advancement of the Ball.

So maybe you need to go back to reading comprehension class and stop trolling over here. I don't need your crap. Again Stop and READ the quote.

skymike · 10-20-2009, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by FinFan

Fair enough, but very wrong. No different then the run and shoot? Really? I mean Really? I have heard some of the smartest fans in my life that really know X's and O's on here but you just lowered the bar for your own people. I have gained enough respect for the people on here to allow them to talk sense into you and I will just leave it alone.

huh?

I think you misunderstood his post, holmes.

papz · 10-20-2009, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

We don't need a tricks or gimmicks to stop the wildcat. We need discipline, discipline, and more discipline. Overload blitzes and crazy twists and stunts are exactly what the WC is designed to exploit.

DEs, LBs and CBs will have to keep containment. The DTs have to hold their gap assignments down and Vilma needs to have a huge day.

Hey FinFan, what MIA board do you post on?

That's exactly how we need to stop it. As long as we don't over pursue, and everyone keeps there containment, I think we'll be just fine stopping the wildcat. How many times do you think they're actually going to go to this formation? 10 times at most in opinion. Going back to the Florida/Tennessee game (I know it's just college), but we can always bring Harper up and use him like Monte Kiffin did Berry during that game. It's all about discipline. Also if we get out to a big lead, their wildcat will be useless. Just play Saints ball and their wildcat will be an afterthought.

SmashMouth · 10-20-2009, 09:02 PM

Relax fellahs.... we stopped the wildcat cold already with Philly ... the Fins may have slightly better RBs ... although Westbrooks ain't no slouch himself.... but I do like FF's point about the Fins getting down on their knees praying for bad weather ... If you gotta pray for anything for some kind of edge, GAME OVER! The Fins will be smoking Ricky Williams' peace pipe before the game is over.

Ashley · 10-20-2009, 10:35 PM

i think all of yall made your point. ( at some point ) STATS, doesn't mean crap too me. and as far as the wild cat goes, it's just like Greg said "It's just another part of the game" We have to be ready for it! Geaux Saints !

Frederick Smith · 10-21-2009, 10:38 AM

Wish we could see more of the other teams fans like FF here. As FF stated we also are not that far behind them with the running game so they will have to recognize that as well as us. We are going to have to find a way to get Brown on the ground and not make those 40 + yard runs. I also think the Dolphins are underrated this year and have not been given much respect. Their offensive and defensive lines are tough and far from a walk in the park for us. We have great runners in our division that we have been dealing with and have burnt us in the past but also have caused us to prepare more to stop the running game. The difference this year of course is Sharper, Greer, and Porter who can take away the long ball and put eight in the box. Looks like an old time smash mouth game that will say a lot about which defense is the real deal.

BIGEASY504 · 10-21-2009, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by FinFan

Just out of curiosity what running back have you guys played that you think is better then Ronnie Brown? Looking at your schedule I gotta be honest I'm not seeing any backs on there even close to Ronnie.

YouTube - Ronnie Brown Highlights

Just about any RB can run the wildcat and if that’s your main/base offense – See Colts games vs Miami – I’ll say no more. When the Dolphins are down 14 or 21 to 3 or 0 your wildcat will be tamed and the Dolphins will have to play catch up which means passing the ball and I don’t think the Dolphins O-line is that good in protection. The wildcat will only take you so far.

FinFan · 10-21-2009, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by lynwood

He isn't calling it the run and shoot you Dork, He's saying it's like any other Fad or Scheme that you have to prepare for to prevent. Eventually it's all about stopping the advancement of the Ball.

So maybe you need to go back to reading comprehension class and stop trolling over here. I don't need your crap. Again Stop and READ the quote.

I see your point and I did misread his post so I stand corrected.

FinFan · 10-21-2009, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

We don't need a tricks or gimmicks to stop the wildcat. We need discipline, discipline, and more discipline. Overload blitzes and crazy twists and stunts are exactly what the WC is designed to exploit.

DEs, LBs and CBs will have to keep containment. The DTs have to hold their gap assignments down and Vilma needs to have a huge day.

Hey FinFan, what MIA board do you post on?

I am on FinHeaven it's a cool site, I am The Don74 on there.

10-20-2009, 04:37 PM	#21
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by lynwood From Greg Williams: What kinds of challenges as a coordinator does the wildcat bring? "Those are things. Everything's a fad. Everything's a scheme. Everything's a play. It's really no different than the run and shoot, it's no different than the option, it's no different than the power game. It's just another part of the game. The ball has to be advanced, and you're trying to align and prevent the advancement of the ball. It's just one more scheme. It's one more thing and the things you have to be prepared to do. It's the same thing defensively" I think we will be ready. Fair enough, but very wrong. No different then the run and shoot? Really? I mean Really? I have heard some of the smartest fans in my life that really know X's and O's on here but you just lowered the bar for your own people. I have gained enough respect for the people on here to allow them to talk sense into you and I will just leave it alone.
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10-20-2009, 04:48 PM	#22
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Re: Dolphins - wildcat He isn't calling it the run and shoot you Dork, He's saying it's like any other Fad or Scheme that you have to prepare for to prevent. Eventually it's all about stopping the advancement of the Ball. So maybe you need to go back to reading comprehension class and stop trolling over here. I don't need your crap. Again Stop and READ the quote.

10-20-2009, 05:16 PM	#23
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by FinFan Fair enough, but very wrong. No different then the run and shoot? Really? I mean Really? I have heard some of the smartest fans in my life that really know X's and O's on here but you just lowered the bar for your own people. I have gained enough respect for the people on here to allow them to talk sense into you and I will just leave it alone. huh? I think you misunderstood his post, holmes.

10-20-2009, 06:52 PM	#24
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by WhoDat205 We don't need a tricks or gimmicks to stop the wildcat. We need discipline, discipline, and more discipline. Overload blitzes and crazy twists and stunts are exactly what the WC is designed to exploit. DEs, LBs and CBs will have to keep containment. The DTs have to hold their gap assignments down and Vilma needs to have a huge day. Hey FinFan, what MIA board do you post on? That's exactly how we need to stop it. As long as we don't over pursue, and everyone keeps there containment, I think we'll be just fine stopping the wildcat. How many times do you think they're actually going to go to this formation? 10 times at most in opinion. Going back to the Florida/Tennessee game (I know it's just college), but we can always bring Harper up and use him like Monte Kiffin did Berry during that game. It's all about discipline. Also if we get out to a big lead, their wildcat will be useless. Just play Saints ball and their wildcat will be an afterthought.
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10-20-2009, 09:02 PM	#25
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Relax fellahs.... we stopped the wildcat cold already with Philly ... the Fins may have slightly better RBs ... although Westbrooks ain't no slouch himself.... but I do like FF's point about the Fins getting down on their knees praying for bad weather ... If you gotta pray for anything for some kind of edge, GAME OVER! The Fins will be smoking Ricky Williams' peace pipe before the game is over.

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10-20-2009, 10:35 PM	#26
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Dolphins - wildcat i think all of yall made your point. ( at some point ) STATS, doesn't mean crap too me. and as far as the wild cat goes, it's just like Greg said "It's just another part of the game" We have to be ready for it! Geaux Saints !

10-21-2009, 10:38 AM	#27
Frederick Smith SaintsFan101 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 217	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Wish we could see more of the other teams fans like FF here. As FF stated we also are not that far behind them with the running game so they will have to recognize that as well as us. We are going to have to find a way to get Brown on the ground and not make those 40 + yard runs. I also think the Dolphins are underrated this year and have not been given much respect. Their offensive and defensive lines are tough and far from a walk in the park for us. We have great runners in our division that we have been dealing with and have burnt us in the past but also have caused us to prepare more to stop the running game. The difference this year of course is Sharper, Greer, and Porter who can take away the long ball and put eight in the box. Looks like an old time smash mouth game that will say a lot about which defense is the real deal.

10-21-2009, 11:19 AM	#28
BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by FinFan Just out of curiosity what running back have you guys played that you think is better then Ronnie Brown? Looking at your schedule I gotta be honest I'm not seeing any backs on there even close to Ronnie. YouTube - Ronnie Brown Highlights Just about any RB can run the wildcat and if that’s your main/base offense – See Colts games vs Miami – I’ll say no more. When the Dolphins are down 14 or 21 to 3 or 0 your wildcat will be tamed and the Dolphins will have to play catch up which means passing the ball and I don’t think the Dolphins O-line is that good in protection. The wildcat will only take you so far.
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10-21-2009, 05:09 PM	#29
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by lynwood He isn't calling it the run and shoot you Dork, He's saying it's like any other Fad or Scheme that you have to prepare for to prevent. Eventually it's all about stopping the advancement of the Ball. So maybe you need to go back to reading comprehension class and stop trolling over here. I don't need your crap. Again Stop and READ the quote. I see your point and I did misread his post so I stand corrected.
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10-21-2009, 05:11 PM	#30
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by WhoDat205 We don't need a tricks or gimmicks to stop the wildcat. We need discipline, discipline, and more discipline. Overload blitzes and crazy twists and stunts are exactly what the WC is designed to exploit. DEs, LBs and CBs will have to keep containment. The DTs have to hold their gap assignments down and Vilma needs to have a huge day. Hey FinFan, what MIA board do you post on? I am on FinHeaven it's a cool site, I am The Don74 on there.
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66