Dolphins - wildcat

FinFan · 10-21-2009, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

We don't need a tricks or gimmicks to stop the wildcat. We need discipline, discipline, and more discipline. Overload blitzes and crazy twists and stunts are exactly what the WC is designed to exploit.

DEs, LBs and CBs will have to keep containment. The DTs have to hold their gap assignments down and Vilma needs to have a huge day.

Hey FinFan, what MIA board do you post on?

I am on FinHeaven it's a cool site, I am The Don74 on there.

Cruize · 10-20-2009, 10:10 AM

The Wildcat is tough to defend. First of all, the Dolphins are talented and run it well. Secondly, it's a problem to defend because it has defenders reading and reacting instead of attacking. This gets defenders beat at the line of scrimmage. While they are reading the offense is attacking. Advantage offense. The defense has to be very disciplined. They have to maintain their gaps on the line and hopefully have the LB's make plays. If the DL has a breakdown and the LB's get out of position or don't make plays, the defense can really get gashed. The Saints have to man up on the outside with Greer and Porter, which they can do easily against the Dolphins, allowing Sharper and Harper to play around the line. The only real threat of pass is to the TE, which a LB or S has to handle. The good news is the Saints won't have to stop them every time. Brees and Co. affords them that. Plus, if the Saints can stop them a few times and the offense can post a lead, it can force the Dolphins to go away from what they do best. Without a letdown or turnovers in this trap game, the Saints should get a 10+ point victory.

Rugby Saint II · 10-20-2009, 11:48 AM

ff makes a good point. The weather could be a factor. Reaction time to the wildcat should be slower in bad conditions. This should be a win, although not necessarily an easy one.

Euphoria · 10-20-2009, 11:54 AM

The key to running a wildcat is blocking and adding another blocker to the running game. Take the QB out add a RB, simple math. The way you defend it is bring the safties up putting '8 men in the box'. Also if your CB's play tight on the WR and inside they could be in better position to contain and blitz the RB coming outside.
This could very well be a game the Fins had against the Colts if anyone seen that game it was great game plan the Fins deployed its just that Manning took advantage of the few times he actually had the ball.

Papa Voodoo · 10-20-2009, 01:36 PM

Wildcat - No matter what they run left or right and theyu don't use the QB at the receiver spot. Play like a run and ignore the razzle dazzle.

lynwood · 10-20-2009, 03:28 PM

From Greg Williams:

What kinds of challenges as a coordinator does the wildcat bring?

"Those are things. Everything's a fad. Everything's a scheme. Everything's a play. It's really no different than the run and shoot, it's no different than the option, it's no different than the power game. It's just another part of the game. The ball has to be advanced, and you're trying to align and prevent the advancement of the ball. It's just one more scheme. It's one more thing and the things you have to be prepared to do. It's the same thing defensively"

I think we will be ready.

FinFan · 10-20-2009, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by lynwood

From Greg Williams:

What kinds of challenges as a coordinator does the wildcat bring?

"Those are things. Everything's a fad. Everything's a scheme. Everything's a play. It's really no different than the run and shoot, it's no different than the option, it's no different than the power game. It's just another part of the game. The ball has to be advanced, and you're trying to align and prevent the advancement of the ball. It's just one more scheme. It's one more thing and the things you have to be prepared to do. It's the same thing defensively"

I think we will be ready.

Fair enough, but very wrong. No different then the run and shoot? Really? I mean Really? I have heard some of the smartest fans in my life that really know X's and O's on here but you just lowered the bar for your own people. I have gained enough respect for the people on here to allow them to talk sense into you and I will just leave it alone.

skymike · 10-20-2009, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by FinFan

Fair enough, but very wrong. No different then the run and shoot? Really? I mean Really? I have heard some of the smartest fans in my life that really know X's and O's on here but you just lowered the bar for your own people. I have gained enough respect for the people on here to allow them to talk sense into you and I will just leave it alone.

huh?

I think you misunderstood his post, holmes.

lynwood · 10-20-2009, 03:48 PM

He isn't calling it the run and shoot you Dork, He's saying it's like any other Fad or Scheme that you have to prepare for to prevent. Eventually it's all about stopping the advancement of the Ball.

So maybe you need to go back to reading comprehension class and stop trolling over here. I don't need your crap. Again Stop and READ the quote.

FinFan · 10-21-2009, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by lynwood

He isn't calling it the run and shoot you Dork, He's saying it's like any other Fad or Scheme that you have to prepare for to prevent. Eventually it's all about stopping the advancement of the Ball.

So maybe you need to go back to reading comprehension class and stop trolling over here. I don't need your crap. Again Stop and READ the quote.

I see your point and I did misread his post so I stand corrected.

10-21-2009, 04:11 PM	#1
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by WhoDat205 We don't need a tricks or gimmicks to stop the wildcat. We need discipline, discipline, and more discipline. Overload blitzes and crazy twists and stunts are exactly what the WC is designed to exploit. DEs, LBs and CBs will have to keep containment. The DTs have to hold their gap assignments down and Vilma needs to have a huge day. Hey FinFan, what MIA board do you post on? I am on FinHeaven it's a cool site, I am The Don74 on there.
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66

10-20-2009, 10:10 AM	#2
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Dolphins - wildcat The Wildcat is tough to defend. First of all, the Dolphins are talented and run it well. Secondly, it's a problem to defend because it has defenders reading and reacting instead of attacking. This gets defenders beat at the line of scrimmage. While they are reading the offense is attacking. Advantage offense. The defense has to be very disciplined. They have to maintain their gaps on the line and hopefully have the LB's make plays. If the DL has a breakdown and the LB's get out of position or don't make plays, the defense can really get gashed. The Saints have to man up on the outside with Greer and Porter, which they can do easily against the Dolphins, allowing Sharper and Harper to play around the line. The only real threat of pass is to the TE, which a LB or S has to handle. The good news is the Saints won't have to stop them every time. Brees and Co. affords them that. Plus, if the Saints can stop them a few times and the offense can post a lead, it can force the Dolphins to go away from what they do best. Without a letdown or turnovers in this trap game, the Saints should get a 10+ point victory.
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10-20-2009, 11:48 AM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Dolphins - wildcat ff makes a good point. The weather could be a factor. Reaction time to the wildcat should be slower in bad conditions. This should be a win, although not necessarily an easy one.

10-20-2009, 11:54 AM	#4
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Dolphins - wildcat The key to running a wildcat is blocking and adding another blocker to the running game. Take the QB out add a RB, simple math. The way you defend it is bring the safties up putting '8 men in the box'. Also if your CB's play tight on the WR and inside they could be in better position to contain and blitz the RB coming outside. This could very well be a game the Fins had against the Colts if anyone seen that game it was great game plan the Fins deployed its just that Manning took advantage of the few times he actually had the ball.
	E U P H O R I A

10-20-2009, 01:36 PM	#5
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Wildcat - No matter what they run left or right and theyu don't use the QB at the receiver spot. Play like a run and ignore the razzle dazzle.

10-20-2009, 03:28 PM	#6
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Re: Dolphins - wildcat From Greg Williams: What kinds of challenges as a coordinator does the wildcat bring? "Those are things. Everything's a fad. Everything's a scheme. Everything's a play. It's really no different than the run and shoot, it's no different than the option, it's no different than the power game. It's just another part of the game. The ball has to be advanced, and you're trying to align and prevent the advancement of the ball. It's just one more scheme. It's one more thing and the things you have to be prepared to do. It's the same thing defensively" I think we will be ready.

10-20-2009, 03:37 PM	#7
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by lynwood From Greg Williams: What kinds of challenges as a coordinator does the wildcat bring? "Those are things. Everything's a fad. Everything's a scheme. Everything's a play. It's really no different than the run and shoot, it's no different than the option, it's no different than the power game. It's just another part of the game. The ball has to be advanced, and you're trying to align and prevent the advancement of the ball. It's just one more scheme. It's one more thing and the things you have to be prepared to do. It's the same thing defensively" I think we will be ready. Fair enough, but very wrong. No different then the run and shoot? Really? I mean Really? I have heard some of the smartest fans in my life that really know X's and O's on here but you just lowered the bar for your own people. I have gained enough respect for the people on here to allow them to talk sense into you and I will just leave it alone.
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10-20-2009, 04:16 PM	#8
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by FinFan Fair enough, but very wrong. No different then the run and shoot? Really? I mean Really? I have heard some of the smartest fans in my life that really know X's and O's on here but you just lowered the bar for your own people. I have gained enough respect for the people on here to allow them to talk sense into you and I will just leave it alone. huh? I think you misunderstood his post, holmes.

10-20-2009, 03:48 PM	#9
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Re: Dolphins - wildcat He isn't calling it the run and shoot you Dork, He's saying it's like any other Fad or Scheme that you have to prepare for to prevent. Eventually it's all about stopping the advancement of the Ball. So maybe you need to go back to reading comprehension class and stop trolling over here. I don't need your crap. Again Stop and READ the quote.

10-21-2009, 04:09 PM	#10
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by lynwood He isn't calling it the run and shoot you Dork, He's saying it's like any other Fad or Scheme that you have to prepare for to prevent. Eventually it's all about stopping the advancement of the Ball. So maybe you need to go back to reading comprehension class and stop trolling over here. I don't need your crap. Again Stop and READ the quote. I see your point and I did misread his post so I stand corrected.
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