Dolphins - wildcat

Euphoria · 10-20-2009, 12:24 AM

I am so looking forward to this weeks match up. Greg Williams will really be in the spot-light on this one, what is he going to do to stop the Wildcat?

I hate this damn offense in the NFL. Part of the problem has been most pro level DC hasn't really had much of it nor have really worked at game planning to stopping it. So looking forward to seeing Greg Williams operate against it, you just know he has a trick up his sleeve!!!

SaintPauly · 10-20-2009, 01:42 AM

They are going to use it, there is no doubt about that, but I believe that with our secondary playing so well, it will leave our front seven to handle whatever they throw at us. Disruption in the backfield, will change their mind about putting in anyone else's hands besides Henne.

In the past, I would have been worried about their running game, but we have handled better RBs, in my opinion. Although, Miami is the number one rushing offense in the league.

I can't say I've drank the kool aid just yet, but I can tell you that I have lost all fear of standing by the punch bowl. I haven't seen any team up to this point, that we can't beat. Period.

FinFan · 10-20-2009, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

They are going to use it, there is no doubt about that, but I believe that with our secondary playing so well, it will leave our front seven to handle whatever they throw at us. Disruption in the backfield, will change their mind about putting in anyone else's hands besides Henne.

In the past, I would have been worried about their running game, but we have handled better RBs, in my opinion. Although, Miami is the number one rushing offense in the league.

I can't say I've drank the kool aid just yet, but I can tell you that I have lost all fear of standing by the punch bowl. I haven't seen any team up to this point, that we can't beat. Period.

Just out of curiosity what running back have you guys played that you think is better then Ronnie Brown? Looking at your schedule I gotta be honest I'm not seeing any backs on there even close to Ronnie.

YouTube - Ronnie Brown Highlights

boonedocksaint · 10-20-2009, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by FinFan

Just out of curiosity what running back have you guys played that you think is better then Ronnie Brown? Looking at your schedule I gotta be honest I'm not seeing any backs on there even close to Ronnie.

YouTube - Ronnie Brown Highlights

not saying these guys are better, maybe just as good, but, brian westbrook, thomas jones, brandon jacobs (although he's not the same player this year), and kevn smith. these guys are all good backs. the one closest to ronnie brown would be westbrook.

and, its not just ronnie brown we're goin up against, its also run-ricky-run! thank god we dont have to deal w/ cobb, too!

FinFan · 10-20-2009, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by boonedocksaint

not saying these guys are better, maybe just as good, but, brian westbrook, thomas jones, brandon jacobs (although he's not the same player this year), and kevn smith. these guys are all good backs. the one closest to ronnie brown would be westbrook.

and, its not just ronnie brown we're goin up against, its also run-ricky-run! thank god we dont have to deal w/ cobb, too!

My point wasn't to suggest that you haven't played some good backs but just not at Ronnie's level. Like you mentioned you also have Ricky to deal with and although Cobbs is out we have a guy named Lex Hillard that runs real hard. The other thing people take out of account with us is we often run with a FB lead blocker who is a beast named Lou Polite. He also gets some touches as well and is a load to bring down.

With all that said I don't know that you guys necessarily need to stop the Wildcat you just need to slow it down enough to get the time of possession to balance out a little more your way. If you guys are on the field more then 20-25 min we don't stand a chance.

Your also gonna have to respect Henne's arm as well so that should open up our standard run package. Will see there is a lot of game planning to be done for both sides, should be a very fun game to watch.

SmashMouth · 10-20-2009, 06:09 AM

The Dolphins are in trouble. 18th against the pass, 15th in scoring at 22 points a game, allowing 21.2 points a game ( not a huge differential). It'll be a similar story line for the Fins .... they'll be too far behind and will have to abandon the the tricked out wishbone. This means Henne will be forced to pass .... enter Sharper for another pick six or two. He had one called back this past game. Too much offense for the Fins to handle as the saints are averaging 38.4 points a game!

FinFan · 10-20-2009, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

The Dolphins are in trouble. 18th against the pass, 15th in scoring at 22 points a game, allowing 21.2 points a game ( not a huge differential). It'll be a similar story line for the Fins .... they'll be too far behind and will have to abandon the the tricked out wishbone. This means Henne will be forced to pass .... enter Sharper for another pick six or two. He had one called back this past game. Too much offense for the Fins to handle as the saints are averaging 38.4 points a game!

Hard to argue with most of your points but I will have to call you on one thing. The 22 points a game stat. Keep in mind it's that low because we had Penny behind center for the 1st 3 games. Since Henne has taken over we are averaging 35 a game. Our young (but talented) secondary has also improved each week as well, so I wouldn't get to sucked into those stats you put up they can be deceiving.

With that said this is defiantly a VERY challenging match up for us.

Budsdrinker · 10-20-2009, 08:48 AM

It should be a good game FinFan and I will be there to witness it. I can't wait.

foreverfan · 10-20-2009, 09:05 AM

Love the sig Finfan. I'm not the only one worried about the Dolphins. If you guy get a few turnovers and don't allow the Saints to get ahead early, it will be a good game. Still, one thing about the Saints, they don't play their best football until the 4th quarter.

FinFan · 10-20-2009, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Love the sig Finfan. I'm not the only one worried about the Dolphins. If you guy get a few turnovers and don't allow the Saints to get ahead early, it will be a good game. Still, one thing about the Saints, they don't play their best football until the 4th quarter.

If we can manage to hang in until the 4th a lot of people don't realize what a punishing runner Ronnie is, he loves to hit LB's and safeties. In the 4th he always seems to still be running hard and thats when he starts to really break tackles.

But yeah we will need a few breaks to go our way. For one it's suppose to rain on Sunday with high winds. That might slow your passing game down a bit. The problem is your a heck of a running team yourselves so it's pick your poison with you guys.

10-20-2009, 12:24 AM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Dolphins - wildcat I am so looking forward to this weeks match up. Greg Williams will really be in the spot-light on this one, what is he going to do to stop the Wildcat? I hate this damn offense in the NFL. Part of the problem has been most pro level DC hasn't really had much of it nor have really worked at game planning to stopping it. So looking forward to seeing Greg Williams operate against it, you just know he has a trick up his sleeve!!!

10-20-2009, 01:42 AM	#2
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Dolphins - wildcat They are going to use it, there is no doubt about that, but I believe that with our secondary playing so well, it will leave our front seven to handle whatever they throw at us. Disruption in the backfield, will change their mind about putting in anyone else's hands besides Henne. In the past, I would have been worried about their running game, but we have handled better RBs, in my opinion. Although, Miami is the number one rushing offense in the league. I can't say I've drank the kool aid just yet, but I can tell you that I have lost all fear of standing by the punch bowl. I haven't seen any team up to this point, that we can't beat. Period.
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10-20-2009, 02:11 AM	#4
boonedocksaint 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 340	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by FinFan Just out of curiosity what running back have you guys played that you think is better then Ronnie Brown? Looking at your schedule I gotta be honest I'm not seeing any backs on there even close to Ronnie. YouTube - Ronnie Brown Highlights not saying these guys are better, maybe just as good, but, brian westbrook, thomas jones, brandon jacobs (although he's not the same player this year), and kevn smith. these guys are all good backs. the one closest to ronnie brown would be westbrook. and, its not just ronnie brown we're goin up against, its also run-ricky-run! thank god we dont have to deal w/ cobb, too!

10-20-2009, 02:26 AM	#5
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by boonedocksaint not saying these guys are better, maybe just as good, but, brian westbrook, thomas jones, brandon jacobs (although he's not the same player this year), and kevn smith. these guys are all good backs. the one closest to ronnie brown would be westbrook. and, its not just ronnie brown we're goin up against, its also run-ricky-run! thank god we dont have to deal w/ cobb, too! My point wasn't to suggest that you haven't played some good backs but just not at Ronnie's level. Like you mentioned you also have Ricky to deal with and although Cobbs is out we have a guy named Lex Hillard that runs real hard. The other thing people take out of account with us is we often run with a FB lead blocker who is a beast named Lou Polite. He also gets some touches as well and is a load to bring down. With all that said I don't know that you guys necessarily need to stop the Wildcat you just need to slow it down enough to get the time of possession to balance out a little more your way. If you guys are on the field more then 20-25 min we don't stand a chance. Your also gonna have to respect Henne's arm as well so that should open up our standard run package. Will see there is a lot of game planning to be done for both sides, should be a very fun game to watch.
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10-20-2009, 06:09 AM	#6
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,962 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Dolphins - wildcat The Dolphins are in trouble. 18th against the pass, 15th in scoring at 22 points a game, allowing 21.2 points a game ( not a huge differential). It'll be a similar story line for the Fins .... they'll be too far behind and will have to abandon the the tricked out wishbone. This means Henne will be forced to pass .... enter Sharper for another pick six or two. He had one called back this past game. Too much offense for the Fins to handle as the saints are averaging 38.4 points a game!

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10-20-2009, 07:28 AM	#7
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by SmashMouth The Dolphins are in trouble. 18th against the pass, 15th in scoring at 22 points a game, allowing 21.2 points a game ( not a huge differential). It'll be a similar story line for the Fins .... they'll be too far behind and will have to abandon the the tricked out wishbone. This means Henne will be forced to pass .... enter Sharper for another pick six or two. He had one called back this past game. Too much offense for the Fins to handle as the saints are averaging 38.4 points a game! Hard to argue with most of your points but I will have to call you on one thing. The 22 points a game stat. Keep in mind it's that low because we had Penny behind center for the 1st 3 games. Since Henne has taken over we are averaging 35 a game. Our young (but talented) secondary has also improved each week as well, so I wouldn't get to sucked into those stats you put up they can be deceiving. With that said this is defiantly a VERY challenging match up for us.
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10-20-2009, 08:48 AM	#8
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Dolphins - wildcat It should be a good game FinFan and I will be there to witness it. I can't wait.

10-20-2009, 09:05 AM	#9
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Love the sig Finfan. I'm not the only one worried about the Dolphins. If you guy get a few turnovers and don't allow the Saints to get ahead early, it will be a good game. Still, one thing about the Saints, they don't play their best football until the 4th quarter.

10-20-2009, 09:13 AM	#10
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by foreverfan Love the sig Finfan. I'm not the only one worried about the Dolphins. If you guy get a few turnovers and don't allow the Saints to get ahead early, it will be a good game. Still, one thing about the Saints, they don't play their best football until the 4th quarter. If we can manage to hang in until the 4th a lot of people don't realize what a punishing runner Ronnie is, he loves to hit LB's and safeties. In the 4th he always seems to still be running hard and thats when he starts to really break tackles. But yeah we will need a few breaks to go our way. For one it's suppose to rain on Sunday with high winds. That might slow your passing game down a bit. The problem is your a heck of a running team yourselves so it's pick your poison with you guys.
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