Dolphins - wildcat

Euphoria · 10-20-2009, 12:24 AM

I am so looking forward to this weeks match up. Greg Williams will really be in the spot-light on this one, what is he going to do to stop the Wildcat?

I hate this damn offense in the NFL. Part of the problem has been most pro level DC hasn't really had much of it nor have really worked at game planning to stopping it. So looking forward to seeing Greg Williams operate against it, you just know he has a trick up his sleeve!!!

SaintPauly · 10-20-2009, 01:42 AM

They are going to use it, there is no doubt about that, but I believe that with our secondary playing so well, it will leave our front seven to handle whatever they throw at us. Disruption in the backfield, will change their mind about putting in anyone else's hands besides Henne.

In the past, I would have been worried about their running game, but we have handled better RBs, in my opinion. Although, Miami is the number one rushing offense in the league.

I can't say I've drank the kool aid just yet, but I can tell you that I have lost all fear of standing by the punch bowl. I haven't seen any team up to this point, that we can't beat. Period.

FinFan · 10-20-2009, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

They are going to use it, there is no doubt about that, but I believe that with our secondary playing so well, it will leave our front seven to handle whatever they throw at us. Disruption in the backfield, will change their mind about putting in anyone else's hands besides Henne.

In the past, I would have been worried about their running game, but we have handled better RBs, in my opinion. Although, Miami is the number one rushing offense in the league.

I can't say I've drank the kool aid just yet, but I can tell you that I have lost all fear of standing by the punch bowl. I haven't seen any team up to this point, that we can't beat. Period.

Just out of curiosity what running back have you guys played that you think is better then Ronnie Brown? Looking at your schedule I gotta be honest I'm not seeing any backs on there even close to Ronnie.

YouTube - Ronnie Brown Highlights

boonedocksaint · 10-20-2009, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by FinFan

Just out of curiosity what running back have you guys played that you think is better then Ronnie Brown? Looking at your schedule I gotta be honest I'm not seeing any backs on there even close to Ronnie.

YouTube - Ronnie Brown Highlights

not saying these guys are better, maybe just as good, but, brian westbrook, thomas jones, brandon jacobs (although he's not the same player this year), and kevn smith. these guys are all good backs. the one closest to ronnie brown would be westbrook.

and, its not just ronnie brown we're goin up against, its also run-ricky-run! thank god we dont have to deal w/ cobb, too!

FinFan · 10-20-2009, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by boonedocksaint

not saying these guys are better, maybe just as good, but, brian westbrook, thomas jones, brandon jacobs (although he's not the same player this year), and kevn smith. these guys are all good backs. the one closest to ronnie brown would be westbrook.

and, its not just ronnie brown we're goin up against, its also run-ricky-run! thank god we dont have to deal w/ cobb, too!

My point wasn't to suggest that you haven't played some good backs but just not at Ronnie's level. Like you mentioned you also have Ricky to deal with and although Cobbs is out we have a guy named Lex Hillard that runs real hard. The other thing people take out of account with us is we often run with a FB lead blocker who is a beast named Lou Polite. He also gets some touches as well and is a load to bring down.

With all that said I don't know that you guys necessarily need to stop the Wildcat you just need to slow it down enough to get the time of possession to balance out a little more your way. If you guys are on the field more then 20-25 min we don't stand a chance.

Your also gonna have to respect Henne's arm as well so that should open up our standard run package. Will see there is a lot of game planning to be done for both sides, should be a very fun game to watch.

boonedocksaint · 10-20-2009, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by FinFan

My point wasn't to suggest that you haven't played some good backs but just not at Ronnie's level. Like you mentioned you also have Ricky to deal with and although Cobbs is out we have a guy named Lex Hillard that runs real hard. The other thing people take out of account with us is we often run with a FB lead blocker who is a beast named Lou Polite. He also gets some touches as well and is a load to bring down.

With all that said I don't know that you guys necessarily need to stop the Wildcat you just need to slow it down enough to get the time of possession to balance out a little more your way. If you guys are on the field more then 20-25 min we don't stand a chance.

Your also gonna have to respect Henne's arm as well so that should open up our standard run package. Will see there is a lot of game planning to be done for both sides, should be a very fun game to watch.

dude, you dont need to tell me about henne. i'm a diehard gator fan and i was at the capital one bowl. i respect him, but, still hate him at the same time.

BIGEASY504 · 10-21-2009, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by FinFan

Just out of curiosity what running back have you guys played that you think is better then Ronnie Brown? Looking at your schedule I gotta be honest I'm not seeing any backs on there even close to Ronnie.

YouTube - Ronnie Brown Highlights

Just about any RB can run the wildcat and if that’s your main/base offense – See Colts games vs Miami – I’ll say no more. When the Dolphins are down 14 or 21 to 3 or 0 your wildcat will be tamed and the Dolphins will have to play catch up which means passing the ball and I don’t think the Dolphins O-line is that good in protection. The wildcat will only take you so far.

CantonLegend · 10-21-2009, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by FinFan

Just out of curiosity what running back have you guys played that you think is better then Ronnie Brown? Looking at your schedule I gotta be honest I'm not seeing any backs on there even close to Ronnie.

YouTube - Ronnie Brown Highlights

brian westbrook is one of the leagues best

brandon jacobs and ahmad bradshaw are a nasty combination

thomas jones and leon washington were spoken very highly of by jets fans

fred jackson is not a name known to all but he is a pretty talented back and should get some more recognition as he garners more touches

kevin smith is one of the most underrated players in the entire leage.....while not on ronnie browns level, he is still talented

we have played running backs that are just as talented as ronnie brown and we have gone up against offensive lines far more talented than the dolphins

i must admit im a tad bit nervous about the wildcat offense but i think it will be phased out quickly when the dolphins offense needs to play catch up because their defense cant stop us

FinFan · 10-21-2009, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

brian westbrook is one of the leagues best

brandon jacobs and ahmad bradshaw are a nasty combination

thomas jones and leon washington were spoken very highly of by jets fans

fred jackson is not a name known to all but he is a pretty talented back and should get some more recognition as he garners more touches

kevin smith is one of the most underrated players in the entire leage.....while not on ronnie browns level, he is still talented

we have played running backs that are just as talented as ronnie brown and we have gone up against offensive lines far more talented than the dolphins

i must admit im a tad bit nervous about the wildcat offense but i think it will be phased out quickly when the dolphins offense needs to play catch up because their defense cant stop us

You have defiantly played some good backs but non of them is at Ronnies level imho.Westbrook was a couple of years ago but not anymore. Kevin Smith is underrated I agree with you there, in fact I have him on my fantasy league.

I think Ronnie and Ricky are the best duo in the league. Before the bye last week They were 2 and 13 in yards with Ronnie being tied for 1st in td's.

Danno · 10-21-2009, 05:39 PM

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10-20-2009, 12:24 AM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Dolphins - wildcat I am so looking forward to this weeks match up. Greg Williams will really be in the spot-light on this one, what is he going to do to stop the Wildcat? I hate this damn offense in the NFL. Part of the problem has been most pro level DC hasn't really had much of it nor have really worked at game planning to stopping it. So looking forward to seeing Greg Williams operate against it, you just know he has a trick up his sleeve!!!

10-20-2009, 01:42 AM	#2
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Dolphins - wildcat They are going to use it, there is no doubt about that, but I believe that with our secondary playing so well, it will leave our front seven to handle whatever they throw at us. Disruption in the backfield, will change their mind about putting in anyone else's hands besides Henne. In the past, I would have been worried about their running game, but we have handled better RBs, in my opinion. Although, Miami is the number one rushing offense in the league. I can't say I've drank the kool aid just yet, but I can tell you that I have lost all fear of standing by the punch bowl. I haven't seen any team up to this point, that we can't beat. Period.
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10-20-2009, 02:11 AM	#4
boonedocksaint 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 340	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by FinFan Just out of curiosity what running back have you guys played that you think is better then Ronnie Brown? Looking at your schedule I gotta be honest I'm not seeing any backs on there even close to Ronnie. YouTube - Ronnie Brown Highlights not saying these guys are better, maybe just as good, but, brian westbrook, thomas jones, brandon jacobs (although he's not the same player this year), and kevn smith. these guys are all good backs. the one closest to ronnie brown would be westbrook. and, its not just ronnie brown we're goin up against, its also run-ricky-run! thank god we dont have to deal w/ cobb, too!

10-20-2009, 02:26 AM	#5
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by boonedocksaint not saying these guys are better, maybe just as good, but, brian westbrook, thomas jones, brandon jacobs (although he's not the same player this year), and kevn smith. these guys are all good backs. the one closest to ronnie brown would be westbrook. and, its not just ronnie brown we're goin up against, its also run-ricky-run! thank god we dont have to deal w/ cobb, too! My point wasn't to suggest that you haven't played some good backs but just not at Ronnie's level. Like you mentioned you also have Ricky to deal with and although Cobbs is out we have a guy named Lex Hillard that runs real hard. The other thing people take out of account with us is we often run with a FB lead blocker who is a beast named Lou Polite. He also gets some touches as well and is a load to bring down. With all that said I don't know that you guys necessarily need to stop the Wildcat you just need to slow it down enough to get the time of possession to balance out a little more your way. If you guys are on the field more then 20-25 min we don't stand a chance. Your also gonna have to respect Henne's arm as well so that should open up our standard run package. Will see there is a lot of game planning to be done for both sides, should be a very fun game to watch.
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10-20-2009, 11:31 AM	#6
boonedocksaint 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 340	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by FinFan My point wasn't to suggest that you haven't played some good backs but just not at Ronnie's level. Like you mentioned you also have Ricky to deal with and although Cobbs is out we have a guy named Lex Hillard that runs real hard. The other thing people take out of account with us is we often run with a FB lead blocker who is a beast named Lou Polite. He also gets some touches as well and is a load to bring down. With all that said I don't know that you guys necessarily need to stop the Wildcat you just need to slow it down enough to get the time of possession to balance out a little more your way. If you guys are on the field more then 20-25 min we don't stand a chance. Your also gonna have to respect Henne's arm as well so that should open up our standard run package. Will see there is a lot of game planning to be done for both sides, should be a very fun game to watch. dude, you dont need to tell me about henne. i'm a diehard gator fan and i was at the capital one bowl. i respect him, but, still hate him at the same time.

10-21-2009, 10:19 AM	#7
BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by FinFan Just out of curiosity what running back have you guys played that you think is better then Ronnie Brown? Looking at your schedule I gotta be honest I'm not seeing any backs on there even close to Ronnie. YouTube - Ronnie Brown Highlights Just about any RB can run the wildcat and if that’s your main/base offense – See Colts games vs Miami – I’ll say no more. When the Dolphins are down 14 or 21 to 3 or 0 your wildcat will be tamed and the Dolphins will have to play catch up which means passing the ball and I don’t think the Dolphins O-line is that good in protection. The wildcat will only take you so far.
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10-21-2009, 04:33 PM	#8
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by FinFan Just out of curiosity what running back have you guys played that you think is better then Ronnie Brown? Looking at your schedule I gotta be honest I'm not seeing any backs on there even close to Ronnie. YouTube - Ronnie Brown Highlights brian westbrook is one of the leagues best brandon jacobs and ahmad bradshaw are a nasty combination thomas jones and leon washington were spoken very highly of by jets fans fred jackson is not a name known to all but he is a pretty talented back and should get some more recognition as he garners more touches kevin smith is one of the most underrated players in the entire leage.....while not on ronnie browns level, he is still talented we have played running backs that are just as talented as ronnie brown and we have gone up against offensive lines far more talented than the dolphins i must admit im a tad bit nervous about the wildcat offense but i think it will be phased out quickly when the dolphins offense needs to play catch up because their defense cant stop us
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10-21-2009, 05:24 PM	#9
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Dolphins - wildcat Originally Posted by CantonLegend brian westbrook is one of the leagues best brandon jacobs and ahmad bradshaw are a nasty combination thomas jones and leon washington were spoken very highly of by jets fans fred jackson is not a name known to all but he is a pretty talented back and should get some more recognition as he garners more touches kevin smith is one of the most underrated players in the entire leage.....while not on ronnie browns level, he is still talented we have played running backs that are just as talented as ronnie brown and we have gone up against offensive lines far more talented than the dolphins i must admit im a tad bit nervous about the wildcat offense but i think it will be phased out quickly when the dolphins offense needs to play catch up because their defense cant stop us You have defiantly played some good backs but non of them is at Ronnies level imho.Westbrook was a couple of years ago but not anymore. Kevin Smith is underrated I agree with you there, in fact I have him on my fantasy league. I think Ronnie and Ricky are the best duo in the league. Before the bye last week They were 2 and 13 in yards with Ronnie being tied for 1st in td's.
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10-21-2009, 05:39 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Dolphins - wildcat I understand Rickey is undergoing some new unique and top secret motivational training in order to get prepared for his former employer...