Anyone think Miami will be harder to beat?

Sir Psycho Sexy · 10-21-2009, 11:30 AM

...than the Giants. Granted that would be easy since we murdered them, but what I'm getting at is I think this might be a close game.

This game comes down to our D not letting them grind down the clock with their rushing and short passes. Our F-Line and LB corps will have to shine. Porter and Harper will be brought up to help, but the DL and LBs have a chance to make a statement against this kind of Offense.

Rugby Saint II · 10-21-2009, 01:26 PM

Miami is probably going to make this a closer game than the Giants did. They have such an unusual offense that it will be difficult to keep them off the field with their running game out of the wildcat offense. Missing Fujita is going to hurt us some because the Dolphins are going to test the linebackers. I anticipate Drew having another big day with a lot of quick strikes. Our running game will only be used to keep the defense honest.

exile · 10-21-2009, 01:30 PM

Am I the only one not real worried about their run game?

TheDeuce · 10-21-2009, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by exile

Am I the only one not real worried about their run game?

In my opinion, their running game is very worrisome. The Saints haven't really faced a prime time running back yet this season, so we haven't really been able to see how they'll handle a good rushing attack. I've watched a couple of Dolphins games this year, and I will say that it's an impressive offense when the passing game gets going. If Henne has a good game, they'll be hard to stop because there are just so many options for them.

When Henne's off, it's easy to pack the box and stop the run, but he was pretty awesome in their win over the Jets.

CantonLegend · 10-21-2009, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

In my opinion, their running game is very worrisome. The Saints haven't really faced a prime time running back yet this season, so we haven't really been able to see how they'll handle a good rushing attack. I've watched a couple of Dolphins games this year, and I will say that it's an impressive offense when the passing game gets going. If Henne has a good game, they'll be hard to stop because there are just so many options for them.

When Henne's off, it's easy to pack the box and stop the run, but he was pretty awesome in their win over the Jets.

actually kevin smith is in the same boat as PT....underrated by the rest of the league but pretty talented

brian westbrook is pretty good

thomas jones and leon washington are 2 good running backs behind a beastly offensive line

fred jackson isnt a starter but he is pretty good as far as backups go

brandon jacobs and ahmad bradshaw are studs on one of the best running teams in the league

id say that we shut down teams pretty well as far as the running game is concerned

also dont forget that making our opponents pass the ball early is a huge part of why our defense has been so successful.....

while it may be hard to stop the wildcat, if they cant stop our offense then they will be playing the way we want them to

TheDeuce · 10-21-2009, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

actually kevin smith is in the same boat as PT....underrated by the rest of the league but pretty talented

brian westbrook is pretty good

thomas jones and leon washington are 2 good running backs behind a beastly offensive line

fred jackson isnt a starter but he is pretty good as far as backups go

brandon jacobs and ahmad bradshaw are studs on one of the best running teams in the league

id say that we shut down teams pretty well as far as the running game is concerned

also dont forget that making our opponents pass the ball early is a huge part of why our defense has been so successful.....

while it may be hard to stop the wildcat, if they cant stop our offense then they will be playing the way we want them to

I said PRIME TIME, not "pretty good" or "good". Ronnie Brown is one of the best backs in the league. We have not seen a back like him yet this season (Thomas Jones is close, but he only carried the ball 13 times in that game, and Brandon Jacobs is averaging 3.6 yards per carry this season). Nor have we seen the wildcat. Point is, this is a dangerous team when they're clicking, and they looked like they were clicking in their last game. I still think the Saints are the better team, but we need to take this game seriously.

skymike · 10-22-2009, 04:11 PM

We Have to get a fast start, and hopefully force them into all-pass mode.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-21-2009, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

In my opinion, their running game is very worrisome. The Saints haven't really faced a prime time running back yet this season, so we haven't really been able to see how they'll handle a good rushing attack. I've watched a couple of Dolphins games this year, and I will say that it's an impressive offense when the passing game gets going. If Henne has a good game, they'll be hard to stop because there are just so many options for them.

When Henne's off, it's easy to pack the box and stop the run, but he was pretty awesome in their win over the Jets.

The Dolphins are 2-3. If Atlanta can handle them, surely the Saints can handle them.

FinFan · 10-21-2009, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

The Dolphins are 2-3. If Atlanta can handle them, surely the Saints can handle them.

All 3 of those losses came with "Noddle Arm" Penny behind center. We are 2-0 with Henne "The Robot" as starter.

Don't get me wrong, we owe Penny a lot. With out him we don't win the division last year plus he was a great mentor to Henne.

This is an entirely different offence with Henne back there. Teams can no longer just stack the box because they now have to respect the long ball. With Penny every throw was underneath dump passes.

D_it_up · 10-21-2009, 01:31 PM

I will still predict a Saints' victory against the Fins, but AFC East teams have kept the Saints offense in check for the most part. The Bills and Jets held the Saints to no passing TD's. I don't think that will be the case this weekend with the Fins having an average secondary at best, but it still will be a tough challenge. I think GW will have the defense ready for the Wildcat.

My prediction: Saints: 38; Fins: 20

10-21-2009, 11:30 AM	#1
Sir Psycho Sexy Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA - Behind enemy lines. Someone throw me a grenade!! Posts: 941	Anyone think Miami will be harder to beat? ...than the Giants. Granted that would be easy since we murdered them, but what I'm getting at is I think this might be a close game. This game comes down to our D not letting them grind down the clock with their rushing and short passes. Our F-Line and LB corps will have to shine. Porter and Harper will be brought up to help, but the DL and LBs have a chance to make a statement against this kind of Offense.

10-21-2009, 01:26 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,121	Re: Anyone think Miami will be harder to beat? Miami is probably going to make this a closer game than the Giants did. They have such an unusual offense that it will be difficult to keep them off the field with their running game out of the wildcat offense. Missing Fujita is going to hurt us some because the Dolphins are going to test the linebackers. I anticipate Drew having another big day with a lot of quick strikes. Our running game will only be used to keep the defense honest.

10-21-2009, 01:30 PM	#3
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10-21-2009, 04:06 PM	#4
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Anyone think Miami will be harder to beat? Originally Posted by exile Am I the only one not real worried about their run game? In my opinion, their running game is very worrisome. The Saints haven't really faced a prime time running back yet this season, so we haven't really been able to see how they'll handle a good rushing attack. I've watched a couple of Dolphins games this year, and I will say that it's an impressive offense when the passing game gets going. If Henne has a good game, they'll be hard to stop because there are just so many options for them. When Henne's off, it's easy to pack the box and stop the run, but he was pretty awesome in their win over the Jets.
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10-21-2009, 04:12 PM	#5
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Anyone think Miami will be harder to beat? Originally Posted by TheDeuce In my opinion, their running game is very worrisome. The Saints haven't really faced a prime time running back yet this season, so we haven't really been able to see how they'll handle a good rushing attack. I've watched a couple of Dolphins games this year, and I will say that it's an impressive offense when the passing game gets going. If Henne has a good game, they'll be hard to stop because there are just so many options for them. When Henne's off, it's easy to pack the box and stop the run, but he was pretty awesome in their win over the Jets. actually kevin smith is in the same boat as PT....underrated by the rest of the league but pretty talented brian westbrook is pretty good thomas jones and leon washington are 2 good running backs behind a beastly offensive line fred jackson isnt a starter but he is pretty good as far as backups go brandon jacobs and ahmad bradshaw are studs on one of the best running teams in the league id say that we shut down teams pretty well as far as the running game is concerned also dont forget that making our opponents pass the ball early is a huge part of why our defense has been so successful..... while it may be hard to stop the wildcat, if they cant stop our offense then they will be playing the way we want them to
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10-21-2009, 05:08 PM	#6
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Anyone think Miami will be harder to beat? Originally Posted by CantonLegend actually kevin smith is in the same boat as PT....underrated by the rest of the league but pretty talented brian westbrook is pretty good thomas jones and leon washington are 2 good running backs behind a beastly offensive line fred jackson isnt a starter but he is pretty good as far as backups go brandon jacobs and ahmad bradshaw are studs on one of the best running teams in the league id say that we shut down teams pretty well as far as the running game is concerned also dont forget that making our opponents pass the ball early is a huge part of why our defense has been so successful..... while it may be hard to stop the wildcat, if they cant stop our offense then they will be playing the way we want them to I said PRIME TIME, not "pretty good" or "good". Ronnie Brown is one of the best backs in the league. We have not seen a back like him yet this season (Thomas Jones is close, but he only carried the ball 13 times in that game, and Brandon Jacobs is averaging 3.6 yards per carry this season). Nor have we seen the wildcat. Point is, this is a dangerous team when they're clicking, and they looked like they were clicking in their last game. I still think the Saints are the better team, but we need to take this game seriously.
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10-22-2009, 04:11 PM	#7
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Anyone think Miami will be harder to beat? We Have to get a fast start, and hopefully force them into all-pass mode.

10-21-2009, 07:08 PM	#8
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Anyone think Miami will be harder to beat? Originally Posted by TheDeuce In my opinion, their running game is very worrisome. The Saints haven't really faced a prime time running back yet this season, so we haven't really been able to see how they'll handle a good rushing attack. I've watched a couple of Dolphins games this year, and I will say that it's an impressive offense when the passing game gets going. If Henne has a good game, they'll be hard to stop because there are just so many options for them. When Henne's off, it's easy to pack the box and stop the run, but he was pretty awesome in their win over the Jets. The Dolphins are 2-3. If Atlanta can handle them, surely the Saints can handle them.

10-21-2009, 07:46 PM	#9
FinFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66	Re: Anyone think Miami will be harder to beat? Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper The Dolphins are 2-3. If Atlanta can handle them, surely the Saints can handle them. All 3 of those losses came with "Noddle Arm" Penny behind center. We are 2-0 with Henne "The Robot" as starter. Don't get me wrong, we owe Penny a lot. With out him we don't win the division last year plus he was a great mentor to Henne. This is an entirely different offence with Henne back there. Teams can no longer just stack the box because they now have to respect the long ball. With Penny every throw was underneath dump passes.
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10-21-2009, 01:31 PM	#10
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Anyone think Miami will be harder to beat? I will still predict a Saints' victory against the Fins, but AFC East teams have kept the Saints offense in check for the most part. The Bills and Jets held the Saints to no passing TD's. I don't think that will be the case this weekend with the Fins having an average secondary at best, but it still will be a tough challenge. I think GW will have the defense ready for the Wildcat. My prediction: Saints: 38; Fins: 20