2010 - Keep or Cut Reggie Bush.
 

We have so many players contracts coming up in 2010. Do the Saints keep Bush or is his money better spent on other players. Reggie's roll has been reduced to a 3rd down back and punt returner. He will never be a true #1 back. We all would love if he reworked his contract and that may happen but...


Will the Saints be looted next year and could Reggie's money be better spend on keeping existing players?

G Jahri Evans (RFA)
RB Pierre Thomas (RFA)
LT Jermon Bushrod (RFA)
RB Mike Bell (RFA)
LB Scott Fujita
SS Roman Harper
WR Lance Moore
FS Darren Sharper
LT Jammal Brown
DT Kendrick Clancy
DT Anthony Hargrove - Not sure if he's a free agent in 2010.

Keep Reggie or Not....

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Who really knows what next year will bring. Uncapped? New agreement between owner/players union? Etc.

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Are all of those free agents? Wow.

Of course spending money on keeping multiple players is better than spending money on one guy.

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Just re-sign them all.

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The way things are going there won't be a salary cap next season so I don't see how the Saints can't afford to keep all these guys next year. For all the hate Reggie is one of the playmakers on this team. He still gives D Coordinators sleepness nights when its Saints week. Just look to the Giants game, both play pass TDs were fakes to Reggie and the Giants bit on them hard. He might never be an everydown back, he never was at USC so why even try it now, Bell and Thomas are the bruisers in this Offense. As long as he plays his role and helps this team achieve thier goals then I just don't see him going anywhere.

I have my own nightmares, Reggie goes to another team and then blows up into the HOFer that everyone thought he would become, I really could see it happen.

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Its not Reggie giving DC's sleepless nights its brees and the WR's. They can't cover them and can't get to Brees' like they would like. If they are keying on Brees you'd see them cheat the SS or FS more when he is in the line up and they are not. All Bush really does is create a mis-match if you line him up in the back field and then motion him to a slot WR position... a slower LB ends up having to cover him.

The worse thing that could happend to football is being uncapped. There is no way we sign all these players with uncapped season. Benson doesn't have that kind of money... this market doesn't have that kind of money.

The deal will get done it has to. No one really wants to see that except teams that can afford it.

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Payton still uses Reggie as a decoy for a reason

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DECOY my ass! If anyone has been paying attention Reggie has got less touches of late and used just like anyone else. Of course someone has to cover him... just like someone has to cover Shockey or Colston.

All everyone likes about Reggie is he can add one exciting play a game maybe. Its not good football buisness to keep a high price tag on a player who contributues less than other players.

Of the list above there are several players we have to keep over Reggie. Do the math and the money is better spent retaining those players.

Re: 2010 - Keep or Cut Reggie Bush.
 

His production doesn't match his salary. About $5 million per year for the top end role player he is is more than fair. If that's not good with him, I wish him well.

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+1.. mainly because he can fly at high altitudes on any give play. That makes for one heckuva decoy!

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all reggie does is create mismatches for slower linebackers is right, and both the passing and running game would suffer with out him.

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Please lets not turn this into a Reggie bash session. Man thats a lot of free agents next year. I just hate that there will be no cap next year. The Cowgirls will be the next Yankees.

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The subject of the tread clearly states what its about. Essentially he's a 3rd string RB, who returns some punts and hasn't done that great of a job. I feel better with Roby doing the PR's at this point. How much he is going to make?

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The question is can you really do without any of these guys or Reggie?
G Jahri Evans (RFA)
RB Pierre Thomas (RFA)
LT Jermon Bushrod (RFA)
RB Mike Bell (RFA)
LB Scott Fujita
SS Roman Harper
WR Lance Moore
FS Darren Sharper
LT Jammal Brown

Sorry Bush has to take a pay cut or he's gone. These guys have contributed more to Saints wins than Bush.

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Why dont we use him in kick returns? Everyone always talks about how good he is in space. He would be great returning kicks.

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Maybe Darren Sharper. Otherwise, yeah we can replace any of the others.

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I'd add Mike Bell to that list, dude just runs with a passion and doesn't mind running through guys

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Because he wants to pretend he is on DANCING WITH THE STARS back there. Until he learns that in the pros its more important to read and feed off your blocks, pick a whole and go! Instead dance, dance, dance and either runs out of bounds or gets tackled by one hand.

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MAYBE??? he gets a MAYBE??? You're kidding now right. He can have his check and Reggie's for what he has done in our secondary.

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Yeah I shouldn't say maybe. Sharper is too old for a long term contract and it would be too expensive to keep signing him short term. I would keep Bush now that I think about it.

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Agree 100%

He doesn't demand any more attention than Bell or Thomas.

If he'll re-sign for what a typical 3rd down scat back would sign for, then yes, I'd keep him without blinking an eye, otherwise I'll pass.

Re: 2010 - Keep or Cut Reggie Bush.
 

Hey lets get through this year first. And win a Super Bowl.

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Yeah being 8-8 is way more fun right.

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Reggie will restructure if he's smart.

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Thats what punt/kick returners do they dance if the blocks are not there. Dancing as you put it can sometimes make a person miss a tackle. Hell even Devin Hester danced when he had all those punt/kick returns for tds. If you noticed our ST are not that great this year. I agree he should restructure. But to say he doesn't contribute is just plain stupid IMO. Him and Colston have at least 25+ TDs each. If thats not contribution then I dont what is.

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Yeah yeah to a degree they can 'dance' to avoid a tackle but you haven't really watched Mr Tippy Toes not read his block and went in the direction of the defender and tackle his butt. He Danced wrong and I am voting him off! I also think he wants to see if he can get to the sideline faster than a defender can get to him.

Reggie Bush is no Devin Hester!

So in order to give him TD's you add Colstons with his to make your point for keeping him??? NO NO NO, that makes no sense. The week before I think he got a TD and so did 6 others. My point is that he isn't the significant factor in winning games and can be easily replaced and we'd still be winning!!!

People get over the man crush already and do the math... there is even an article on this forum about his 'reduced roll' because he hasn't been and becoming less and less a factor!

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colston gets 75-150 yards of offense per game with his TDs. reggie does not. id love to keep him, but theres no way we can at his salary. jahri is a must sign, we need to do everything we can to keep brees protected. but for the most part, my opinion is the same as euphs.

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best distraction in the league......he may not score or get the yardage everyone wants.....but just by faking the ball to him you get 3 players on defense moving to him

he isnt worth a huge pay increase but he should be able to keep his job through the next 3 seasons at least

Re: 2010 - Keep or Cut Reggie Bush.
 

canton thats what were debating. his contract comes with a huge pay increase after this year, so how is he going to make it through the next 3 seasons unless he takes a big pay cut?

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I know its a semi slow news day but why does ESPN have to force Reggie's radio comments down our throats, yeah so he was asked a question and then answered it. What was he suppose to say, "nah the Saints won't win another game this year" come on ESPN quit spinning things to sell ratings and move on

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i think i knew that.....:confused:

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So you think only one person is trying to tackle PT or Bell vice Bush? The same 3 people you claim trying to tackle Bush when they see BELL coming at them the other two turn to one of them and say " you get him we will just not move and watch"... really?

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Oh, I didn't catch that either.

I say he must restructure, and I think he will, or we say goodbye.


Since Reggie's a West Coast guy, anyone think we can work a win-win trade with someone like San Diego?

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is that what i said? cuz thats not what i said

dont fill in the blanks on my posts......if there are blanks just leave them blank because i meant to leave them blank

i said what i said and thats all i wanted to say.....i didnt want to talk about bell or PT in my post so i didnt

sorry for being a jerk in this post but stuff like this gets on my nerves and ive had a bad day today

Re: 2010 - Keep or Cut Reggie Bush.
 

I do not think Bush would ever agree to restructure his contract, unless it meant more money for him. I also do not think the Saints would cut him. If the Saints get it in their minds that they want to move him, he does have some trade value. Remember, he is a very nice threat. There are specific reasons he is not getting the touches he did in the past. The Saints do have two reliable guys running the ball, the TE position is finally a true weapon, and all four WR's make plays. There are only so many balls to go around. Is Bush worth the money, the jury is still out on that. He most definitely was worth the money when he was asked to do more...

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Euphoria makes several very valid points. In a previous thread I mentioned that those 10 players are almost half of our 22 of our starters. If we only resign 50-70% then we could be looking at a substantially different team, although I don't let the front office see that happening .Also, I'm from the old school...if it aint broke don't fix it. Sean Payton has done a very good job of utilizing Reggie so far this year. It is still early in the season and we could still see a lot of more packages involving Reggie. I like the chemistry when he's on the field. But, dang he is expensive. On the poll I voted to wait until the season is over...There are some exciting times ahead for our team. :dance: :cheers:

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It seems though we have a good relationship with New England... trade him to there for Maroney. I'd love to see how they utilize him up there and I've always had a thing for Maroney since Minnesota. If we keep him, that's fine too... I have no problem with it just as long as it's not at a ridiculous amount.

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No, if he comes out west he'll be going to the to the LA Rams or the LA Jaguars. That way he won't have much to travel from the games/practice to Dancing with the Stars. lol.

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Thanks!

I do agree Payton is doing a good job Utilizing him this year by letting him warm the bench more since his brain farts! He's got less and less playing time. Although I do forsee him getting more playing time after Miami since he didn't mess anything up for a change. Maybe that game got his act together.

Chemistry is on point. You see the guys rally around Bush when he screws up and go over to him when he does good and really mentoring him. Obviously he isn't the team leader.

I am with you if its not broke don't fix it but reality of todays NFL and the cap its obviously players move and based on that reality and whats ahead down the road it doesn't look good.

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IMO ...I think either Jammal Brown or bushrod will be gone as good as bushrod has done he will want to start and maybe deserves to if he continues to play at high level