8-0 for the first time!

Barry from MS · 11-08-2009, 09:48 PM

Love 8-0...BUT...we still need the games that we're supposed to win. That'll separate us from Saints teams of the past. With no major injuries, I think the team philosophy will carry us into the playoffs. Actually, our team is really deep throughout the lineup, and I think we can recover from injuries (they have already). Remember, though...we ain't in the playoffs yet. We have got to win those games ahead of us.

Barry from MS · 11-08-2009, 10:26 PM

Very proud of our Saints...next up is the Rams. Gotta beat this life long pain in our rectum. Beat them convincingly, regardless.

FrenzyFan · 11-09-2009, 08:05 AM

No matter how much everyone appreciates coming out the other end of a game with a "W", it's crazy talk to not recognize that our play has been ugly and undisciplined. I may be "spoiled" but the regular season is just about getting into the playoffs to me. The only game that matter in the regular season relate directly to that proposition.

Each individual playoff game matters, and you don't win many playing the way we've been playing. We have to get our play cleaned up. We can win it all if we play disciplined football. We're not doing right now, and really haven't been for a good while - it all started in Buffalo. Considering what we're capable of, we should be winning with a comfortable margin and in control of the game throughout. Instead we're scrabbling, scratching and clawing down to the last second.

I'm happy about being 8-0. That doesn't mean I can't see what's right in front of me.

Tobias-Reiper · 11-09-2009, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by FrenzyFan

No matter how much everyone appreciates coming out the other end of a game with a "W", it's crazy talk to not recognize that our play has been ugly and undisciplined. I may be "spoiled" but the regular season is just about getting into the playoffs to me. The only game that matter in the regular season relate directly to that proposition.

Each individual playoff game matters, and you don't win many playing the way we've been playing. We have to get our play cleaned up. We can win it all if we play disciplined football. We're not doing right now, and really haven't been for a good while - it all started in Buffalo. Considering what we're capable of, we should be winning with a comfortable margin and in control of the game throughout. Instead we're scrabbling, scratching and clawing down to the last second.

I'm happy about being 8-0. That doesn't mean I can't see what's right in front of me.

But what is it that you want to see? Total domination? 63-0 scores? It is not going to happen every.single.game.

Look, only one team has gone undefeated in one season for a reason: it is hard to win games. Ugly last minute wins will always be part of winning records... some on comebacks because they played awful the first 3 quarters, some because opposing teams missed field goals, some on lucky bounces of the ball...

The way I see it, it doesn't get any uglier than the 2000 Ravens, a team who in the 2000 regular season went 5 games without scoring a TD - and won 4 of those! - and ended up winning the SB. Are you going to be disappointed if the Saints win ugly the SB ?

Also, this is not the team that started the 2009 season. They are missing 6 key starters, 7 if Jabari sits next week. Don't you think the absence of Lance Moore and Heath Evans and Jammal Brown is affecting the play of the offense? Don't you think the absence of Kendric Clancy and Sedric Ellis and Scott Fujita affects the play of the defense? Of course it does. But unlike other years, this team is finding ways to overcome them. Why don't you want to give credit to the team for overcoming those injuries and finding ways to win?

And BTW, the other team has 11 people on the field as well.. they are bound to make a play or 2 once in a while.

Finally, yes, each playoff game matters. BUT, to get to the playoffs, you have to win games in the regular season and, last time I checked, there's no tie breaker or seeding based on pretty wins.

QBREES9 · 11-08-2009, 10:37 PM

There just the BEST SAINTS TEAM EVER.

rich006 · 11-09-2009, 02:05 AM

Thoughts on the recent games:

1. The run defense has actually been pretty decent against 4 of the top rushing teams in the NFL. There have been plenty of missed tackles, but those running backs are known for being hard to tackle. It happens. I think the Saints' run D is still top ten. Don't forget Carolina put up 270 yards against the league's top rushing defense at the time (AZ).

2. The pass protection for Brees has been horrible early in the last few games. It gets better as the game goes on. I don't know if it's Brees himself or the line at fault for the slow starts, but it's nice that they have been able to recover before halftime each week.

3. Reggie Bush played the way we want him to play, especially against Carolina. He ran forward instead of dancing, he hit some people, he caught every ball thrown to him (including some spectacular grabs). The only thing he didn't do was break a big play, but those will come if he keeps earning his touches like he did Sunday.

4. How about Meachem and Henderson developing into complete receivers? I think a lot of us had our doubts but they are both for real.

5. No long kickoff or punt returns given up against Carolina! Nice to see.

saintsrule · 11-09-2009, 03:40 AM

Everyone played their best, that is why they cameback against a good team.

Kristomac · 11-09-2009, 05:00 AM

I'm not gonna badmouth the play at all. I praise it. We played a hard fought emotional game on MNF agains t the Falcons, won it, had a short week and played the Panthers...ALWAYS a tough game. Perfect recipe for a letdown game...a recipe we would have cooked and eaten in the past. But we won.
Every team out there is gunning for us. We're getting everybodies best game and most intricate gameplans. We have been figuring them out in the first half... making adjustments at half time...and winning in the second half. How can anyone have a problem with that?!?!? Saints fans are so accustomed to *****ing about the team when we lose...quit looking for reasons to ***** when we win.

hagan714 · 11-09-2009, 05:38 AM

The saint's are circled on every teams calender now. Every team from here on out will bring there "A" game against us, Get use to it.

Food teams find a way to win games like this and that is just a simple truth we are faced with. Take the win and get ready for the Rams

PS we need to add some beef to this DL.

SmashMouth · 11-09-2009, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

The saint's are circled on every teams calender now. Every team from here on out will bring there "A" game against us, Get use to it.

Food teams find a way to win games like this and that is just a simple truth we are faced with. Take the win and get ready for the Rams

PS we need to add some beef to this DL.

Food Teams? I like that .... lol ....

Relax fellahs .... Great teams win ugly too ... you don't think the 1972 Dolphins won any close games? Just enjoy it while we can!

Go Saints!

11-08-2009, 09:48 PM	#1
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 8-0 for the first time! Love 8-0...BUT...we still need the games that we're supposed to win. That'll separate us from Saints teams of the past. With no major injuries, I think the team philosophy will carry us into the playoffs. Actually, our team is really deep throughout the lineup, and I think we can recover from injuries (they have already). Remember, though...we ain't in the playoffs yet. We have got to win those games ahead of us.
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11-08-2009, 10:26 PM	#2
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 8-0 for the first time! Very proud of our Saints...next up is the Rams. Gotta beat this life long pain in our rectum. Beat them convincingly, regardless.

11-09-2009, 08:05 AM	#3
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Re: 8-0 for the first time! No matter how much everyone appreciates coming out the other end of a game with a "W", it's crazy talk to not recognize that our play has been ugly and undisciplined. I may be "spoiled" but the regular season is just about getting into the playoffs to me. The only game that matter in the regular season relate directly to that proposition. Each individual playoff game matters, and you don't win many playing the way we've been playing. We have to get our play cleaned up. We can win it all if we play disciplined football. We're not doing right now, and really haven't been for a good while - it all started in Buffalo. Considering what we're capable of, we should be winning with a comfortable margin and in control of the game throughout. Instead we're scrabbling, scratching and clawing down to the last second. I'm happy about being 8-0. That doesn't mean I can't see what's right in front of me.
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11-09-2009, 09:23 AM	#4
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: 8-0 for the first time! Originally Posted by FrenzyFan No matter how much everyone appreciates coming out the other end of a game with a "W", it's crazy talk to not recognize that our play has been ugly and undisciplined. I may be "spoiled" but the regular season is just about getting into the playoffs to me. The only game that matter in the regular season relate directly to that proposition. Each individual playoff game matters, and you don't win many playing the way we've been playing. We have to get our play cleaned up. We can win it all if we play disciplined football. We're not doing right now, and really haven't been for a good while - it all started in Buffalo. Considering what we're capable of, we should be winning with a comfortable margin and in control of the game throughout. Instead we're scrabbling, scratching and clawing down to the last second. I'm happy about being 8-0. That doesn't mean I can't see what's right in front of me. But what is it that you want to see? Total domination? 63-0 scores? It is not going to happen every.single.game. Look, only one team has gone undefeated in one season for a reason: it is hard to win games. Ugly last minute wins will always be part of winning records... some on comebacks because they played awful the first 3 quarters, some because opposing teams missed field goals, some on lucky bounces of the ball... The way I see it, it doesn't get any uglier than the 2000 Ravens, a team who in the 2000 regular season went 5 games without scoring a TD - and won 4 of those! - and ended up winning the SB. Are you going to be disappointed if the Saints win ugly the SB ? Also, this is not the team that started the 2009 season. They are missing 6 key starters, 7 if Jabari sits next week. Don't you think the absence of Lance Moore and Heath Evans and Jammal Brown is affecting the play of the offense? Don't you think the absence of Kendric Clancy and Sedric Ellis and Scott Fujita affects the play of the defense? Of course it does. But unlike other years, this team is finding ways to overcome them. Why don't you want to give credit to the team for overcoming those injuries and finding ways to win? And BTW, the other team has 11 people on the field as well.. they are bound to make a play or 2 once in a while. Finally, yes, each playoff game matters. BUT, to get to the playoffs, you have to win games in the regular season and, last time I checked, there's no tie breaker or seeding based on pretty wins.
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11-08-2009, 10:37 PM	#5
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: 8-0 for the first time! There just the BEST SAINTS TEAM EVER.

11-09-2009, 02:05 AM	#6
rich006 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 335	Re: 8-0 for the first time! Thoughts on the recent games: 1. The run defense has actually been pretty decent against 4 of the top rushing teams in the NFL. There have been plenty of missed tackles, but those running backs are known for being hard to tackle. It happens. I think the Saints' run D is still top ten. Don't forget Carolina put up 270 yards against the league's top rushing defense at the time (AZ). 2. The pass protection for Brees has been horrible early in the last few games. It gets better as the game goes on. I don't know if it's Brees himself or the line at fault for the slow starts, but it's nice that they have been able to recover before halftime each week. 3. Reggie Bush played the way we want him to play, especially against Carolina. He ran forward instead of dancing, he hit some people, he caught every ball thrown to him (including some spectacular grabs). The only thing he didn't do was break a big play, but those will come if he keeps earning his touches like he did Sunday. 4. How about Meachem and Henderson developing into complete receivers? I think a lot of us had our doubts but they are both for real. 5. No long kickoff or punt returns given up against Carolina! Nice to see.
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11-09-2009, 03:40 AM	#7
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11-09-2009, 05:00 AM	#8
Kristomac Registered Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 92	Re: 8-0 for the first time! I'm not gonna badmouth the play at all. I praise it. We played a hard fought emotional game on MNF agains t the Falcons, won it, had a short week and played the Panthers...ALWAYS a tough game. Perfect recipe for a letdown game...a recipe we would have cooked and eaten in the past. But we won. Every team out there is gunning for us. We're getting everybodies best game and most intricate gameplans. We have been figuring them out in the first half... making adjustments at half time...and winning in the second half. How can anyone have a problem with that?!?!? Saints fans are so accustomed to ***ing about the team when we lose...quit looking for reasons to *** when we win.
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11-09-2009, 05:38 AM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 8-0 for the first time! The saint's are circled on every teams calender now. Every team from here on out will bring there "A" game against us, Get use to it. Food teams find a way to win games like this and that is just a simple truth we are faced with. Take the win and get ready for the Rams PS we need to add some beef to this DL.

11-09-2009, 05:43 AM	#10
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,130 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 8-0 for the first time! Originally Posted by hagan714 The saint's are circled on every teams calender now. Every team from here on out will bring there "A" game against us, Get use to it. Food teams find a way to win games like this and that is just a simple truth we are faced with. Take the win and get ready for the Rams PS we need to add some beef to this DL. Food Teams? I like that .... lol .... Relax fellahs .... Great teams win ugly too ... you don't think the 1972 Dolphins won any close games? Just enjoy it while we can! Go Saints!