Do you think the Saints are built to be a Dynasty?

Danno · 11-09-2009, 05:32 PM

The question asks if we are built to be a dynasty, not are we a dynasty.

I think the current organization is structured in a way that should lead to several more winning seasons.

And I guess it depends on how you define dynasty. The Eagles haven't won a Superbowl but have been close for what seems like 10 years. At a minimum I think we can achieve that level of success for an extended period of time.

CheramieIII · 11-09-2009, 05:35 PM

I would really love a championship first. Let's get through this 19-0 season and return to the Superbowl next year and we'll talk.

hagan714 · 11-09-2009, 05:42 PM

Hmmmm I have to hope for maybe here. I like the moves but there is so much thats needs to be done with bring in new young talent and we also have some salary cap issues to work on first before i can say anything other than "Maybe"

lumm0x · 11-09-2009, 05:48 PM

Went with "Let's win one first and then talk".

I agree with Danno. We have the key pieces to be a solid NFC contender for 5-6 years and if draft well and continue to add solid FA's we can be Eagles-like. I'd like to see a few more late seasons successes than they have experienced though.

MatthewT · 11-09-2009, 06:35 PM

Very good potential, the Saints are doing the right things these days. They have an ideal QB for playing indoors, and the cast to go with it. The defense is still a work in progress but it's getting there. Loomis has been one heck of a GM and has not made very many mistakes on players. Benson has been a very good owner for the Saints, yeah I know some would disagree with that. I guess we will see. The truth in the NFL is things do change all the time, so as good as things are now, it's always possible to get bad. As noted, the Rams are a prime example.

jnormand · 11-09-2009, 07:01 PM

I think this team is close to being built for a dynasty. Everyone knows that as long as SP is the head coach, the offense is going to be high powered and hard to stop.

The question that I really have is the defense. While well coached, much improved and much more aggressive, what happens if when our much heralded DC leaves? Greg Williams has been instrumental in this teams success. If he leaves SP has to find someone else that will compliment his versitile and aggressive style on offense.

If the Saints continue to win this year, you can bet that Greg Williams will be on the radar for a lot of teams next year. Bensen is going to have to write a big check to keep him around another year....that's if he wants to remain in NO as a DC. Another team is going to want him as the HC and that may be enough to lead him astray regardless of how much Bensen wants to pay him.

IMO, the Saints have several pieces in place to remain a contender for a few years. They gotta make it to the SB in order for me to buy into it completely though.

jn671 · 11-09-2009, 07:08 PM

We are good but we can't be way over our heels to say w are gonna be a dynasty. We can very well end up 8-8 again (knock in wood). So we can't loose our focus and keep playing with heart and intensity.

MatthewT · 11-09-2009, 07:13 PM

Agreed, a lot of the success is going to depend on how long Gregg Williams sticks around. The one thing going for the Saints is he was already a head coach, and maybe, just maybe, he is not that high on the wish list for teams. Plus I really don't believe there will be many coaching changes this off-season. Yes, there are some pretty stinky teams right now, but most have coaches that are just starting out with their teams. I would be very worried if the Titans foolishly dump Jeff Fisher.

saintsfan1976 · 11-09-2009, 07:24 PM

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Saints???

No, my friends. Don't go buying tshirts just yet.

Although some teams still have "winning traditions" today's caps and free agencies don't make for great dynasties.

I WILL BE HAPPY WITH CHAMPIONSHIP NUMERO UNO!!!

papz · 11-09-2009, 07:26 PM

Way too early to even consider it. We're having a great year and all, but we really haven't done jack squat and have yet to even make it to a Superbowl. I think we have a solid foundation to become a perennial winner... but dynasty is way premature and laughable actually. Obviously Brett Farve is playing into his 40s, but that's just not the case with everyone. How long does everything think Drew can sustain this level of success? Will it be long enough for us to possibly win 1 Superbowl? At a lot of key positions, we'll have a lot of older players that will be on the downside of their careers in the next couple of years.

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11-09-2009, 05:32 PM	#11
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Do you think the Saints are built to be a Dynasty? The question asks if we are built to be a dynasty, not are we a dynasty. I think the current organization is structured in a way that should lead to several more winning seasons. And I guess it depends on how you define dynasty. The Eagles haven't won a Superbowl but have been close for what seems like 10 years. At a minimum I think we can achieve that level of success for an extended period of time.

11-09-2009, 05:35 PM	#12
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Do you think the Saints are built to be a Dynasty? I would really love a championship first. Let's get through this 19-0 season and return to the Superbowl next year and we'll talk.

11-09-2009, 05:42 PM	#13
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Do you think the Saints are built to be a Dynasty? Hmmmm I have to hope for maybe here. I like the moves but there is so much thats needs to be done with bring in new young talent and we also have some salary cap issues to work on first before i can say anything other than "Maybe"

11-09-2009, 05:48 PM	#14
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Do you think the Saints are built to be a Dynasty? Went with "Let's win one first and then talk". I agree with Danno. We have the key pieces to be a solid NFC contender for 5-6 years and if draft well and continue to add solid FA's we can be Eagles-like. I'd like to see a few more late seasons successes than they have experienced though.

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11-09-2009, 06:35 PM	#15
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Do you think the Saints are built to be a Dynasty? Very good potential, the Saints are doing the right things these days. They have an ideal QB for playing indoors, and the cast to go with it. The defense is still a work in progress but it's getting there. Loomis has been one heck of a GM and has not made very many mistakes on players. Benson has been a very good owner for the Saints, yeah I know some would disagree with that. I guess we will see. The truth in the NFL is things do change all the time, so as good as things are now, it's always possible to get bad. As noted, the Rams are a prime example.

11-09-2009, 07:01 PM	#16
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: Do you think the Saints are built to be a Dynasty? I think this team is close to being built for a dynasty. Everyone knows that as long as SP is the head coach, the offense is going to be high powered and hard to stop. The question that I really have is the defense. While well coached, much improved and much more aggressive, what happens if when our much heralded DC leaves? Greg Williams has been instrumental in this teams success. If he leaves SP has to find someone else that will compliment his versitile and aggressive style on offense. If the Saints continue to win this year, you can bet that Greg Williams will be on the radar for a lot of teams next year. Bensen is going to have to write a big check to keep him around another year....that's if he wants to remain in NO as a DC. Another team is going to want him as the HC and that may be enough to lead him astray regardless of how much Bensen wants to pay him. IMO, the Saints have several pieces in place to remain a contender for a few years. They gotta make it to the SB in order for me to buy into it completely though.

11-09-2009, 07:08 PM	#17
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Do you think the Saints are built to be a Dynasty? We are good but we can't be way over our heels to say w are gonna be a dynasty. We can very well end up 8-8 again (knock in wood). So we can't loose our focus and keep playing with heart and intensity.

11-09-2009, 07:13 PM	#18
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Do you think the Saints are built to be a Dynasty? Agreed, a lot of the success is going to depend on how long Gregg Williams sticks around. The one thing going for the Saints is he was already a head coach, and maybe, just maybe, he is not that high on the wish list for teams. Plus I really don't believe there will be many coaching changes this off-season. Yes, there are some pretty stinky teams right now, but most have coaches that are just starting out with their teams. I would be very worried if the Titans foolishly dump Jeff Fisher.

11-09-2009, 07:24 PM	#19
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Do you think the Saints are built to be a Dynasty? Steelers Niners Cowboys Celtics Lakers Bulls Yankees A's Dodgers The Hockey ones Saints??? No, my friends. Don't go buying tshirts just yet. Although some teams still have "winning traditions" today's caps and free agencies don't make for great dynasties. I WILL BE HAPPY WITH CHAMPIONSHIP NUMERO UNO!!!

11-09-2009, 07:26 PM	#20
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Do you think the Saints are built to be a Dynasty? Way too early to even consider it. We're having a great year and all, but we really haven't done jack squat and have yet to even make it to a Superbowl. I think we have a solid foundation to become a perennial winner... but dynasty is way premature and laughable actually. Obviously Brett Farve is playing into his 40s, but that's just not the case with everyone. How long does everything think Drew can sustain this level of success? Will it be long enough for us to possibly win 1 Superbowl? At a lot of key positions, we'll have a lot of older players that will be on the downside of their careers in the next couple of years.
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