Don's Crystal Ball Midseason Analysis

Euphoria · 11-15-2009, 10:52 AM

And the saints are 8-8 without Sharper take a look at our take aways and yards last season. Still doesn't hold water. Its the same reason why power rankings are gay.

You don't name Tom Brady MVP of the year if he is hurt an out for a season just because what he means to that team.

CantonLegend · 11-15-2009, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by DonCanabis

ok first troy has 3 int.... then what I'm calling is how differnet the team is with him in it than with out him.

Here we go

Pittsburgh with troy and with out troy

With Troy

Record 4-0
Points Allowed: 11 avrg (44)
Pass Yards: 852 (213 avrg)
Rush Yards: 293 (73.2 Avrg)
3rd Down conv: 23/58 (39%)
Int: 7
FF: 5
Sacks: 9
TD Off: 3
TD Def: 3

Without Troy

Record 2-2
Points Allowed: 22 avrg (88)
Pass Yards: 864 (216 avrg)
Rush Yards: 270 (67.5 Avrg)
3rd Down conv: 24/48 (50%)
Int: 1
FF: 4
Sacks: 14
TD Off: 9
TD Def: 0

Äs you guys see it's even if the yards are similar the biggest diference is in Takeaways, points allowed, 3rd down conversion, how many TD the defense allows and how many TD the Defense makes.

even tho the team is better with him, it doesnt make him the MVP as you can see because the teams that they beat with him also dont have very good offenses

tennessee is 2-6 with the 20th ranked offense W

Chicago is 4-5 with the 18th ranked offense L

Cincy is 6-2 with the 12th ranked offense L

Chargers are 5-3 with the 17th ranked offense W

Detroit is 1-7 with the 25th ranked offense W

Brownies are 1-7 with the 31st ranked offense W

Vikings are 7-1 with the 11th ranked offense W

Broncos are 6-2 with the 19th ranked offense W

the average offense of the teams they've played with troy is 20.25

the average offense of the teams they've played w/out him is 18

the offenses they played against when he was out were better than the offenses they played against when he was in

the stats are skewed because the teams they played without him were already going to move the ball regardless of how well he played...and the offenses they played while he was in like detroit and cleveland sure as hell werent going to move the ball whether troy was in there or not

and maybe lets not just look at sharpers interceptions.....but where is he getting these picks? IN THE REDZONE......he is playing his best when it counts the most.....the other team drives the field and sharper completely demoralizes them when they get in the redzone by giving the ball back to the saints offense

i understand holding on to your picks and not wanting to change them, but there is absolutely no reason to have troy picked over sharper

not record, not stats, not power rankings, not offenses they've played against

nothing says troy is more valuable than sharper

saints are a losing franchise without sharper....they are undefeated with him

11-15-2009, 10:52 AM	#21
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Don's Crystal Ball Midseason Analysis And the saints are 8-8 without Sharper take a look at our take aways and yards last season. Still doesn't hold water. Its the same reason why power rankings are gay. You don't name Tom Brady MVP of the year if he is hurt an out for a season just because what he means to that team.

11-15-2009, 11:52 AM	#22
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Don's Crystal Ball Midseason Analysis Originally Posted by DonCanabis ok first troy has 3 int.... then what I'm calling is how differnet the team is with him in it than with out him. Here we go Pittsburgh with troy and with out troy With Troy Record 4-0 Points Allowed: 11 avrg (44) Pass Yards: 852 (213 avrg) Rush Yards: 293 (73.2 Avrg) 3rd Down conv: 23/58 (39%) Int: 7 FF: 5 Sacks: 9 TD Off: 3 TD Def: 3 Without Troy Record 2-2 Points Allowed: 22 avrg (88) Pass Yards: 864 (216 avrg) Rush Yards: 270 (67.5 Avrg) 3rd Down conv: 24/48 (50%) Int: 1 FF: 4 Sacks: 14 TD Off: 9 TD Def: 0 Äs you guys see it's even if the yards are similar the biggest diference is in Takeaways, points allowed, 3rd down conversion, how many TD the defense allows and how many TD the Defense makes. even tho the team is better with him, it doesnt make him the MVP as you can see because the teams that they beat with him also dont have very good offenses tennessee is 2-6 with the 20th ranked offense W Chicago is 4-5 with the 18th ranked offense L Cincy is 6-2 with the 12th ranked offense L Chargers are 5-3 with the 17th ranked offense W Detroit is 1-7 with the 25th ranked offense W Brownies are 1-7 with the 31st ranked offense W Vikings are 7-1 with the 11th ranked offense W Broncos are 6-2 with the 19th ranked offense W the average offense of the teams they've played with troy is 20.25 the average offense of the teams they've played w/out him is 18 the offenses they played against when he was out were better than the offenses they played against when he was in the stats are skewed because the teams they played without him were already going to move the ball regardless of how well he played...and the offenses they played while he was in like detroit and cleveland sure as hell werent going to move the ball whether troy was in there or not and maybe lets not just look at sharpers interceptions.....but where is he getting these picks? IN THE REDZONE......he is playing his best when it counts the most.....the other team drives the field and sharper completely demoralizes them when they get in the redzone by giving the ball back to the saints offense i understand holding on to your picks and not wanting to change them, but there is absolutely no reason to have troy picked over sharper not record, not stats, not power rankings, not offenses they've played against nothing says troy is more valuable than sharper saints are a losing franchise without sharper....they are undefeated with him
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