Carney MUST Go

stockman311 · 11-16-2009, 02:09 PM

I'm sorry, I love the old dude, but when the coach doesn't have faith in you to make a kick from 49 yds and 48 yds respectively in the 4th quarter of an INDOOR game that is extremely tight, then you have no reason to be on the team. He has to go.
Hartley went 13-13 for us last year at the end of the season and has the leg to make the long kick. We are wasting a roster spot and with our injury depleted defense that is just unacceptable.

exile · 11-16-2009, 02:10 PM

I'm not sure it was because SP didn't have faith in Carney. I think that it was more of SP doing what SP does.

DeadmaN · 11-16-2009, 02:10 PM

you might have a point

strato · 11-16-2009, 02:13 PM

We are agressive...thats how we play.....we dont kick field goals..having said that ..lets cutt both kickers ...and let Brees kick..if need be...lol

stockman311 · 11-16-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by exile

I'm not sure it was because SP didn't have faith in Carney. I think that it was more of SP doing what SP does.

Sounds a lot like what the Patriots fans are probably saying about another dubious non kick decision last night. We just happened to be playing a crappy team. We would need that kick against a good team and Carney is just not that good. He has missed two extra points and three or four field goals this year. Tell me Hartley couldn't have matched that performance. Two kickers on the team is dumb.

exile · 11-16-2009, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

Sounds a lot like what the Patriots fans are probably saying about another dubious non kick decision last night. We just happened to be playing a crappy team. We would need that kick against a good team and Carney is just not that good. He has missed two extra points and three or four field goals this year. Tell me Hartley couldn't have matched that performance. Two kickers on the team is dumb.

Oh I wasn't arguing the fact that we only need one kicker on this team. Just saying that I think SP would have gone for that 4th regardless of who the kicker was at the time.

And that Belichick call was just insane. They were far into their own side of the field.

neugey · 11-16-2009, 02:24 PM

I couldn't agree more - if Carney doesn't have the range then let him go.

TXGSP · 11-16-2009, 02:27 PM

Two kickers... really 3

Carney - Field Goals & PATs
Hartley - has he kicked in the Reagular Season
Morestead - KO & Punter

Not sure who actually handled the KO's in yesterdays game but some of them were really short...

Can Morestead handle the FGs & PATs...would free up 2 roster spots and one ACTIVE

stockman311 · 11-16-2009, 02:32 PM

[QUOTE=exile;176844] Just saying that I think SP would have gone for that 4th regardless of who the kicker was at the time.

[QUOTE]

Oh Really? What about if we had Morten Anderson in his prime? Would SP have not kicked both of those 4th quarter field goals from inside 50 yds then?

stockman311 · 11-16-2009, 02:42 PM

When we didn't go for that last field goal and then Morestead punted that ball through the back of the end zone I thought I was gonna throw a damn brick through the TV.

11-16-2009, 02:09 PM	#1
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Carney MUST Go I'm sorry, I love the old dude, but when the coach doesn't have faith in you to make a kick from 49 yds and 48 yds respectively in the 4th quarter of an INDOOR game that is extremely tight, then you have no reason to be on the team. He has to go. Hartley went 13-13 for us last year at the end of the season and has the leg to make the long kick. We are wasting a roster spot and with our injury depleted defense that is just unacceptable.

11-16-2009, 02:10 PM	#2
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Carney MUST Go I'm not sure it was because SP didn't have faith in Carney. I think that it was more of SP doing what SP does.
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11-16-2009, 02:10 PM	#3
DeadmaN Saints Junky Join Date: May 2007 Location: Metairie Originally now a Houston transplant Posts: 672	Re: Carney MUST Go you might have a point

11-16-2009, 02:13 PM	#4
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Carney MUST Go We are agressive...thats how we play.....we dont kick field goals..having said that ..lets cutt both kickers ...and let Brees kick..if need be...lol

11-16-2009, 02:20 PM	#5
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Carney MUST Go Originally Posted by exile I'm not sure it was because SP didn't have faith in Carney. I think that it was more of SP doing what SP does. Sounds a lot like what the Patriots fans are probably saying about another dubious non kick decision last night. We just happened to be playing a crappy team. We would need that kick against a good team and Carney is just not that good. He has missed two extra points and three or four field goals this year. Tell me Hartley couldn't have matched that performance. Two kickers on the team is dumb.

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11-16-2009, 02:23 PM	#6
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Carney MUST Go Originally Posted by stockman311 Sounds a lot like what the Patriots fans are probably saying about another dubious non kick decision last night. We just happened to be playing a crappy team. We would need that kick against a good team and Carney is just not that good. He has missed two extra points and three or four field goals this year. Tell me Hartley couldn't have matched that performance. Two kickers on the team is dumb. Oh I wasn't arguing the fact that we only need one kicker on this team. Just saying that I think SP would have gone for that 4th regardless of who the kicker was at the time. And that Belichick call was just insane. They were far into their own side of the field.
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11-16-2009, 02:24 PM	#7
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Carney MUST Go I couldn't agree more - if Carney doesn't have the range then let him go.

11-16-2009, 02:27 PM	#8
TXGSP LET MY TEAM GO! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Just north of COWGAL HELL Posts: 296	Re: Carney MUST Go Two kickers... really 3 Carney - Field Goals & PATs Hartley - has he kicked in the Reagular Season Morestead - KO & Punter Not sure who actually handled the KO's in yesterdays game but some of them were really short... Can Morestead handle the FGs & PATs...would free up 2 roster spots and one ACTIVE

11-16-2009, 02:32 PM	#9
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Carney MUST Go [QUOTE=exile;176844] Just saying that I think SP would have gone for that 4th regardless of who the kicker was at the time. [QUOTE] Oh Really? What about if we had Morten Anderson in his prime? Would SP have not kicked both of those 4th quarter field goals from inside 50 yds then?

11-16-2009, 02:42 PM	#10
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Carney MUST Go When we didn't go for that last field goal and then Morestead punted that ball through the back of the end zone I thought I was gonna throw a damn brick through the TV.