OK, now here's where this fan draws the line...

arsaint · 12-28-2009, 11:34 AM

"Right now, what's heartache for me ... when you walk off that field and you've got guys out there playing their balls to the wall, and you've got folks in the stands screaming and hollering, 'Y'all (expletive) suck,' you know, you don't do that," Grant said.

New Orleans Saints' Charles Grant feels 'heartache' at fans' reaction | New Orleans Saints Central - - NOLA.com

Look, I'm as mad/disappointed/ill as any fan could be about yesterday and think that the Saints laid the most rotten of eggs in the Dome.

HOWEVER, if some fans really did this as Grant claims, then they are NOT fans.

Everyone has a right to be frustrated and say that these guys didn't play well or that the postseason outlook is turning grim, but there's no excuse for this type of treatment towards our players.

Do these fools think telling them that they "bleeping suck" is going to make them play better???

cargojon · 12-28-2009, 11:38 AM

Yeah I heard something about this. I pray it isn't true.

Unfortunately, even if it isn't true, Grant thinks it's true....last thing we need is for the guys to think they've lost the fans....

Euphoria · 12-28-2009, 11:40 AM

Bull... if they suck a fan has a right to say they suck!

Sorry you are professionals its apart of the game deal with it. Fans pay them to perform and if they don't they deserve to be called out.

My question is "who pays the bills"... the answer... the fans.

SaintsFan1967 · 12-28-2009, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Bull... if they suck a fan has a right to say they suck!

Sorry you are professionals its apart of the game deal with it. Fans pay them to perform and if they don't they deserve to be called out.

My question is "who pays the bills"... the answer... the fans.

I agree 100%. I think the team and the organization know by now just how the fans feel. Hey there is no excuse for what happened. And if I want to voice my opinon then I think I have every right too. I work hard for my money. Sorry if a few millionairs like C. Grant and co. don't like it.

strato · 12-28-2009, 11:43 AM

Well that isnt right...but what i get out of that story is C.Grant thinks we should be happy with the lack of effort they displayed on the field yesterday..Like saying the Saints never been 14 ans 2....Well Mr Grant you made a few plays yesterday so i guess your worth all that money now..If he and the defense start playing and quit diving at peoples feet and making subpar Qbs look like hall of famers..then you wont have to worry about a few fans getting on your case.

WVSaint · 12-28-2009, 11:51 AM

can hearing something like that make grant play any worse? NO.....play any better? maybe, though i doubt it.

xan · 12-28-2009, 11:52 AM

Hey Charles, if you showed up more than once a season, maybe you'd have more of a legitimate beef with the fans. However, 43 tackles total and your first sack since the Jets game (yes, that's 11 games ago) doesn't mean you're earning your $4.1Million salary. You had a good game Sunday. Bully. Beat your man. Stop the run. Get a sack. Force a fumble. Win a Super Bowl.

Get a few more athletic moves while you're wallowing in self-pity for allowing one of the worst teams ever to beat your a$$ up.

saintfan · 12-28-2009, 12:16 PM

25 years ago I might have yelled "You Suck!" and beat my chest proclaiming my fanhood.

Those 25 years are behind me now. These days I see that behavior as inappropriate, and certainly not something I would want my daughter to see me doing. Anymore, I just mumble to myself "Man, we suck", and shake it off. I can certainly see where players might find it offensive.

The thing is that sometimes the truth hurts. They did suck yesterday. As a fan I might feel like expressing that. As a player I might think a fan expressing that is mostly clueless. I think both have valid points.

skymike · 12-28-2009, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

25 years ago I might have yelled "You Suck!" and beat my chest proclaiming my fanhood.

Those 25 years are behind me now. These days I see that behavior as inappropriate, and certainly not something I would want my daughter to see me doing. ...

Zooey is proud of you, and will probably go out with you now. Yes, growing up is a good thing. Same here.
Now I make it a point to hold my wife's hand lovingly, and be a good husband while we walk the Walk of Sad down the slippery Terrace steps & ramps. She knows I need ice cream. Its gonna get better.

Maybe 25 years from now I'll not keep thinking fire that idiot kicker.
ok.

As fans, we have to lose our obsession with how much more money that guy makes than you. Maybe if you got your fat butt off the couch and exercised a little, you could make a bigger check too. Its not Charles Grant's fault you cant play ball. He didnt put a gun to your head and make you choose a career at Walmart. You'd cry like a toddler, if you had to do a day of training camp, even for a million dollars, and you'd lay there and cry from one of the hits these guys takes, so dont be a hater.

Dont be a jerk in the stands. These guys can sometimes choose where they play, or how much they play for. The more you act like an *******, the more they think, "this is a business, **** them."

So man up & represent yourself well.

exile · 12-28-2009, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

Zooey is proud of you, and will probably go out with you now. Yes, growing up is a good thing. Same here.
Now I make it a point to hold my wife's hand lovingly, and be a good husband while we walk the Walk of Sad down the slippery Terrace steps & ramps. She knows I need ice cream. Its gonna get better.

Maybe 25 years from now I'll not keep thinking fire that idiot kicker.
ok.

As fans, we have to lose our obsession with how much more money that guy makes than you. Maybe if you got your fat butt off the couch and exercised a little, you could make a bigger check too. Its not Charles Grant's fault you cant play ball. He didnt put a gun to your head and make you choose a career at Walmart. You'd cry like a toddler, if you had to do a day of training camp, even for a million dollars, and you'd lay there and cry from one of the hits these guys takes, so dont be a hater.

Dont be a jerk in the stands. These guys can sometimes choose where they play, or how much they play for. The more you act like an *******, the more they think, "this is a business, **** them."

So man up & represent yourself well.

I agree with all of this but I must add that Grant has been in the league long enough to expect to this kind of fan after a huge loss. He still has a little growing up to do as well.

12-28-2009, 11:34 AM	#1
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,732	OK, now here's where this fan draws the line... "Right now, what's heartache for me ... when you walk off that field and you've got guys out there playing their balls to the wall, and you've got folks in the stands screaming and hollering, 'Y'all (expletive) suck,' you know, you don't do that," Grant said. New Orleans Saints' Charles Grant feels 'heartache' at fans' reaction \| New Orleans Saints Central - - NOLA.com Look, I'm as mad/disappointed/ill as any fan could be about yesterday and think that the Saints laid the most rotten of eggs in the Dome. HOWEVER, if some fans really did this as Grant claims, then they are NOT fans. Everyone has a right to be frustrated and say that these guys didn't play well or that the postseason outlook is turning grim, but there's no excuse for this type of treatment towards our players. Do these fools think telling them that they "bleeping suck" is going to make them play better???

12-28-2009, 11:38 AM	#2
cargojon 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 576	Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line... Yeah I heard something about this. I pray it isn't true. Unfortunately, even if it isn't true, Grant thinks it's true....last thing we need is for the guys to think they've lost the fans....
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12-28-2009, 11:40 AM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line... Bull... if they suck a fan has a right to say they suck! Sorry you are professionals its apart of the game deal with it. Fans pay them to perform and if they don't they deserve to be called out. My question is "who pays the bills"... the answer... the fans.

12-28-2009, 01:37 PM	#4
SaintsFan1967 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 109	Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line... Originally Posted by Euphoria Bull... if they suck a fan has a right to say they suck! Sorry you are professionals its apart of the game deal with it. Fans pay them to perform and if they don't they deserve to be called out. My question is "who pays the bills"... the answer... the fans. I agree 100%. I think the team and the organization know by now just how the fans feel. Hey there is no excuse for what happened. And if I want to voice my opinon then I think I have every right too. I work hard for my money. Sorry if a few millionairs like C. Grant and co. don't like it.
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12-28-2009, 11:43 AM	#5
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line... Well that isnt right...but what i get out of that story is C.Grant thinks we should be happy with the lack of effort they displayed on the field yesterday..Like saying the Saints never been 14 ans 2....Well Mr Grant you made a few plays yesterday so i guess your worth all that money now..If he and the defense start playing and quit diving at peoples feet and making subpar Qbs look like hall of famers..then you wont have to worry about a few fans getting on your case.

12-28-2009, 11:51 AM	#6
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line... can hearing something like that make grant play any worse? NO.....play any better? maybe, though i doubt it.

12-28-2009, 11:52 AM	#7
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line... Hey Charles, if you showed up more than once a season, maybe you'd have more of a legitimate beef with the fans. However, 43 tackles total and your first sack since the Jets game (yes, that's 11 games ago) doesn't mean you're earning your $4.1Million salary. You had a good game Sunday. Bully. Beat your man. Stop the run. Get a sack. Force a fumble. Win a Super Bowl. Get a few more athletic moves while you're wallowing in self-pity for allowing one of the worst teams ever to beat your a$$ up.
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12-28-2009, 12:16 PM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line... 25 years ago I might have yelled "You Suck!" and beat my chest proclaiming my fanhood. Those 25 years are behind me now. These days I see that behavior as inappropriate, and certainly not something I would want my daughter to see me doing. Anymore, I just mumble to myself "Man, we suck", and shake it off. I can certainly see where players might find it offensive. The thing is that sometimes the truth hurts. They did suck yesterday. As a fan I might feel like expressing that. As a player I might think a fan expressing that is mostly clueless. I think both have valid points.

12-28-2009, 04:10 PM	#9
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line... Originally Posted by saintfan 25 years ago I might have yelled "You Suck!" and beat my chest proclaiming my fanhood. Those 25 years are behind me now. These days I see that behavior as inappropriate, and certainly not something I would want my daughter to see me doing. ... Zooey is proud of you, and will probably go out with you now. Yes, growing up is a good thing. Same here. Now I make it a point to hold my wife's hand lovingly, and be a good husband while we walk the Walk of Sad down the slippery Terrace steps & ramps. She knows I need ice cream. Its gonna get better. Maybe 25 years from now I'll not keep thinking fire that idiot kicker. ok. As fans, we have to lose our obsession with how much more money that guy makes than you. Maybe if you got your fat butt off the couch and exercised a little, you could make a bigger check too. Its not Charles Grant's fault you cant play ball. He didnt put a gun to your head and make you choose a career at Walmart. You'd cry like a toddler, if you had to do a day of training camp, even for a million dollars, and you'd lay there and cry from one of the hits these guys takes, so dont be a hater. Dont be a jerk in the stands. These guys can sometimes choose where they play, or how much they play for. The more you act like an *****, the more they think, "this is a business, ** them." So man up & represent yourself well.
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12-28-2009, 04:18 PM	#10
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line... Originally Posted by skymike Zooey is proud of you, and will probably go out with you now. Yes, growing up is a good thing. Same here. Now I make it a point to hold my wife's hand lovingly, and be a good husband while we walk the Walk of Sad down the slippery Terrace steps & ramps. She knows I need ice cream. Its gonna get better. Maybe 25 years from now I'll not keep thinking fire that idiot kicker. ok. As fans, we have to lose our obsession with how much more money that guy makes than you. Maybe if you got your fat butt off the couch and exercised a little, you could make a bigger check too. Its not Charles Grant's fault you cant play ball. He didnt put a gun to your head and make you choose a career at Walmart. You'd cry like a toddler, if you had to do a day of training camp, even for a million dollars, and you'd lay there and cry from one of the hits these guys takes, so dont be a hater. Dont be a jerk in the stands. These guys can sometimes choose where they play, or how much they play for. The more you act like an *****, the more they think, "this is a business, ** them." So man up & represent yourself well. I agree with all of this but I must add that Grant has been in the league long enough to expect to this kind of fan after a huge loss. He still has a little growing up to do as well.
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