SAINTS DT Discussion

pakowitz · 01-02-2010, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by FatCitySaint

what good is a pass rush though if they never throw the ball??? See what I'm saying?

Tampa ran the ball ten times in a row in OT and we couldn't stop them...we know the rest of that story!!!

which is also another screw up for KC.. Dorsey does play the run well but not in a 3-4.. he isnt a huge plugging DT like pat williams, etc.

SaintPauly · 01-02-2010, 02:34 AM

I like the Dorsey idea. He was a force in the middle at LSU. What's his contract status?

Cruize · 01-02-2010, 07:40 AM

The Saints need a big run stuffer for sure. Ellis gets alot of love around here and he's clearly the Saints best DT. But, he's along way from being a great player. A true run stuffer beside him would free him up more for sure.

FatCitySaint · 01-02-2010, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

The Saints need a big run stuffer for sure. Ellis gets alot of love around here and he's clearly the Saints best DT. But, he's along way from being a great player. A true run stuffer beside him would free him up more for sure.

This!

Also Big Vince Wilfork is a free agent after the season....He would be PERFECT!!!!

SmashMouth · 01-02-2010, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by FatCitySaint

This!

Also Big Vince Wilfork is a free agent after the season....He would be PERFECT!!!!

Big money, you're talking then .... isn't this the year of the DT and DE in the draft? Overpaying we should not be doing!

cargojon · 01-02-2010, 10:00 AM

Casey Hampton will be a FA after this season as well, and we all know Pittsburgh never pays its FA's to stay...

papz · 01-02-2010, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by cargojon

Casey Hampton will be a FA after this season as well, and we all know Pittsburgh never pays its FA's to stay...

True. With that said, he's a extremely important piece to that defense. He's a big reason, no pun intended, that their linebackers are as effective as they are. Look at the type of money Haynesworth went for last year. Hampton and Wilfork might not be as a premiere player as Haynesworth, but it's going to take an arm and a leg to acquire their services. Now unless Bush and Grant aren't on this team next year, I don't believe they're in our financial constraints. Also with the uncertainty of the '11 season, teams are going to be reluctant to dish out massive multiyear deals to big name free agents. I believe their best bet will be staying with their respective teams for guaranteed money over a short period of time. I think we're going to see a larger than usual use of the franchise and transition tag this offseason.

cargojon · 01-02-2010, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by papz

True. With that said, he's a extremely important piece to that defense. He's a big reason, no pun intended, that their linebackers are as effective as they are. Look at the type of money Haynesworth went for last year. Hampton and Wilfork might not be as a premiere player as Haynesworth, but it's going to take an arm and a leg to acquire their services. Now unless Bush and Grant aren't on this team next year, I don't believe they're in our financial constraints. Also with the uncertainty of the '11 season, teams are going to be reluctant to dish out massive multiyear deals to big name free agents. I believe their best bet will be staying with their respective teams for guaranteed money over a short period of time. I think we're going to see a larger than usual use of the franchise and transition tag this offseason.

Most Pittsburgh fans have come to terms with the fact that this is Hampton's last season as a Steeler. That being said, the franchise price tag might not be a terrible option for Pittsburgh as, with the exception of Fat Albert, the DT salaries aren't too horrible.

hagan714 · 01-02-2010, 12:10 PM

Ryan Pickett, Green Bay Packers (30)
Run stuffer at NT,

Tony Brown, Tennessee Titans (29)
DT if we want to go after the quick attacking DT mold across the board.

Draft

this kid I want to learn more about. bottom of round 2?

Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke
Height: 6-6. Weight: 310.
Projected 40 Time: 5.11.

late rounds

Jay Ross, East Carolina
Height: 6-3. Weight: 314.
Projected 40 Time: 5.14.

Kade Weston, Georgia
Height: 6-5. Weight: 322.
Projected 40 Time: 5.05

Al Woods, LSU
Height: 6-5. Weight: 314.
Projected 40 Time: 5.12

FatCitySaint · 01-02-2010, 12:48 PM

yeah..... I like that kid from Duke as well...he would be a great pickup in the second for sure IMHO.

01-02-2010, 12:40 AM	#11
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: SAINTS DT Discussion Originally Posted by FatCitySaint what good is a pass rush though if they never throw the ball??? See what I'm saying? Tampa ran the ball ten times in a row in OT and we couldn't stop them...we know the rest of that story!!! which is also another screw up for KC.. Dorsey does play the run well but not in a 3-4.. he isnt a huge plugging DT like pat williams, etc.

01-02-2010, 02:34 AM	#12
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: SAINTS DT Discussion I like the Dorsey idea. He was a force in the middle at LSU. What's his contract status?

01-02-2010, 07:40 AM	#13
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: SAINTS DT Discussion The Saints need a big run stuffer for sure. Ellis gets alot of love around here and he's clearly the Saints best DT. But, he's along way from being a great player. A true run stuffer beside him would free him up more for sure.
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01-02-2010, 09:11 AM	#14
FatCitySaint Where y'at baby Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Nashville via Metry!!!! Posts: 191	Re: SAINTS DT Discussion Originally Posted by Cruize The Saints need a big run stuffer for sure. Ellis gets alot of love around here and he's clearly the Saints best DT. But, he's along way from being a great player. A true run stuffer beside him would free him up more for sure. This! Also Big Vince Wilfork is a free agent after the season....He would be PERFECT!!!!

01-02-2010, 09:55 AM	#15
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: SAINTS DT Discussion Originally Posted by FatCitySaint This! Also Big Vince Wilfork is a free agent after the season....He would be PERFECT!!!! Big money, you're talking then .... isn't this the year of the DT and DE in the draft? Overpaying we should not be doing!

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: SAINTS DT Discussion Originally Posted by cargojon Casey Hampton will be a FA after this season as well, and we all know Pittsburgh never pays its FA's to stay... True. With that said, he's a extremely important piece to that defense. He's a big reason, no pun intended, that their linebackers are as effective as they are. Look at the type of money Haynesworth went for last year. Hampton and Wilfork might not be as a premiere player as Haynesworth, but it's going to take an arm and a leg to acquire their services. Now unless Bush and Grant aren't on this team next year, I don't believe they're in our financial constraints. Also with the uncertainty of the '11 season, teams are going to be reluctant to dish out massive multiyear deals to big name free agents. I believe their best bet will be staying with their respective teams for guaranteed money over a short period of time. I think we're going to see a larger than usual use of the franchise and transition tag this offseason.
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01-02-2010, 10:23 AM	#18
cargojon 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 576	Re: SAINTS DT Discussion Originally Posted by papz True. With that said, he's a extremely important piece to that defense. He's a big reason, no pun intended, that their linebackers are as effective as they are. Look at the type of money Haynesworth went for last year. Hampton and Wilfork might not be as a premiere player as Haynesworth, but it's going to take an arm and a leg to acquire their services. Now unless Bush and Grant aren't on this team next year, I don't believe they're in our financial constraints. Also with the uncertainty of the '11 season, teams are going to be reluctant to dish out massive multiyear deals to big name free agents. I believe their best bet will be staying with their respective teams for guaranteed money over a short period of time. I think we're going to see a larger than usual use of the franchise and transition tag this offseason. Most Pittsburgh fans have come to terms with the fact that this is Hampton's last season as a Steeler. That being said, the franchise price tag might not be a terrible option for Pittsburgh as, with the exception of Fat Albert, the DT salaries aren't too horrible.
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01-02-2010, 12:10 PM	#19
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: SAINTS DT Discussion Ryan Pickett, Green Bay Packers (30) Run stuffer at NT, Tony Brown, Tennessee Titans (29) DT if we want to go after the quick attacking DT mold across the board. Draft this kid I want to learn more about. bottom of round 2? Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke Height: 6-6. Weight: 310. Projected 40 Time: 5.11. late rounds Jay Ross, East Carolina Height: 6-3. Weight: 314. Projected 40 Time: 5.14. Kade Weston, Georgia Height: 6-5. Weight: 322. Projected 40 Time: 5.05 Al Woods, LSU Height: 6-5. Weight: 314. Projected 40 Time: 5.12
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01-02-2010, 12:48 PM	#20
FatCitySaint Where y'at baby Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Nashville via Metry!!!! Posts: 191	Re: SAINTS DT Discussion yeah..... I like that kid from Duke as well...he would be a great pickup in the second for sure IMHO.

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