CONSPIRACY

xan · 01-19-2010, 12:03 AM

So far, each of the hyped teams going into this weekend got smoked, except for the Colts, who didn't get much disrespect all things being equal.

Let'm continue to over hype Favre and the Vikes. Let's just ignore the predicted beat down their d-line is going to give the 2nd best o-line in the NFL for the run and the 4th for the pass. Let them talk up the Vikings o-line, which is rated 14th in pass protection and 20th! in run blocking.

At this point, you are what your record is and you are what your previous performance is. Objective analysis indicates that the Saints played against 10 games against the top 16 pass rushing d-lines and 9 games against the top 16 rushing defensive lines.

I'm sure that the Vikes will get pressure. The good ones did. The key is limiting those incursions and putting pressure on them to make plays on the back end. For the season, MN's defense was actually rated lower than the Saints. Even worse, they got to play the Lions twice, the Bears twice, Seattle, Rams and SF, as well as the Browns. Half their schedule was against teams in such disarray making it to the stadium to get beat was the highlight of their day.

Prepare, study, watch, identify, anticipate and react. I'm modestly optimistic that we're only being totally dissed instead of casually insulted by the media.

cargojon · 01-19-2010, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

The idea is not so far reaching. I'm convinced the league gave Pittsburgh their last two superbowls through BS calls. Two offensive pass interferences aginst the Seahawks and three missed illegal blocks on the 99 yard int return against the Cards. I fully believe they want to see Favre win another and go out on top. But they also could want a Colts/Saints SB as well for the obvious connections. I do think we will get the wrong end of at least a couple calls against the Vikings however. It is something we will just have to overcome on the way to the SB.

Please

Armyofderek · 01-19-2010, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by mikesaintfan

Hmm how far will the nfl go to get us out?..this is their last chance..the vikes will have some extra help from the zebras i think

Awesome, Vikes fans think the same thing. There isnt much difference between in a Saints and a Vikings fan- our team has just failed more times on bigger stages. Secretly, I think both fan bases are waiting for the kick to the teeth but someone HAS to win and it shouldnt come down to a bad call anyways. If it does, the loser probably wont have deserved it anyway.

(Just so you know, I'm pretty sure the Saints only played 4 playoff teams in a weaker division than the North.)

SAINT_MICHAEL · 01-19-2010, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by cargojon

Please

You probably think there was only one ref betting on games in the NBA too. I say please to your naivety.

cargojon · 01-19-2010, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

You probably think there was only one ref betting on games in the NBA too. I say please to your naivety.

So who all is in on this conspiracy? A couple of refs? Mike Pereira? Roger Goodell?

My wife used to work for a VP in the NFL in New York. Believe me, there are no conspiracies that the league is involved with.

Euphoria · 01-19-2010, 12:39 PM

If there was a conspiracy going on the Pats would still be in the playoffs.

SAINT_MICHAEL · 01-19-2010, 12:45 PM

My point is that there are obvious cases where the league has shown preference to certain teams and players and the Saints have never been one of them while Favre has. From terrible calls to "home" games overseas, the list of ways the league has wronged us goes on and on. I'm not going to throw out names in a sweeping net attempt to accuse anyone. But just because your wife is not aware of any bias doesn't mean it isn't there. I'm not surprised the perpetrators, whoever they are, did not share it with her. I have seen too many examples of it happen. You can believe it is bad luck or human error. I believe dollars has more to do with it. It is like the Jordan rules in basketball or the steroid era in baseball. When star players and teams win games and put up big stats it attracts more fans, and that is what they are hoping for. It doesn't take a big secretive agenda to realize the league sells more tickets, sells more merchandise, and sells more TV time to sponsors when certain teams and players win.

Euphoria · 01-19-2010, 12:48 PM

Obvious cases???

You can't say that unless you list them?

The league hasn't wrong the Saints?

SAINT_MICHAEL · 01-19-2010, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Obvious cases???

You can't say that unless you list them?

This is not a question, but I did list two cases earlier with the Steeler’s SB wins. If you have watched as much football as you claim then I am sure you can think of a few more yourself. Your comment about the Pats indicates you think the league favors them, hence proving my point.

The league hasn't wrong the Saints?

Not sure what you are saying with this grammar.

WifeUnit · 01-19-2010, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by mikesaintfan

Hmm how far will the nfl go to get us out?..this is their last chance..the vikes will have some extra help from the zebras i think

I personally think that the Patriots only made it to the Superbowl in the 2001/2002 season because of extra help from refs. After 9-11, they became the favorites and they had to win as a sort of Patriotic symbol.

JMHO

01-19-2010, 12:03 AM	#11
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	Re: CONSPIRACY So far, each of the hyped teams going into this weekend got smoked, except for the Colts, who didn't get much disrespect all things being equal. Let'm continue to over hype Favre and the Vikes. Let's just ignore the predicted beat down their d-line is going to give the 2nd best o-line in the NFL for the run and the 4th for the pass. Let them talk up the Vikings o-line, which is rated 14th in pass protection and 20th! in run blocking. At this point, you are what your record is and you are what your previous performance is. Objective analysis indicates that the Saints played against 10 games against the top 16 pass rushing d-lines and 9 games against the top 16 rushing defensive lines. I'm sure that the Vikes will get pressure. The good ones did. The key is limiting those incursions and putting pressure on them to make plays on the back end. For the season, MN's defense was actually rated lower than the Saints. Even worse, they got to play the Lions twice, the Bears twice, Seattle, Rams and SF, as well as the Browns. Half their schedule was against teams in such disarray making it to the stadium to get beat was the highlight of their day. Prepare, study, watch, identify, anticipate and react. I'm modestly optimistic that we're only being totally dissed instead of casually insulted by the media.
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01-19-2010, 12:22 AM	#12
cargojon 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 576	Re: CONSPIRACY Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL The idea is not so far reaching. I'm convinced the league gave Pittsburgh their last two superbowls through BS calls. Two offensive pass interferences aginst the Seahawks and three missed illegal blocks on the 99 yard int return against the Cards. I fully believe they want to see Favre win another and go out on top. But they also could want a Colts/Saints SB as well for the obvious connections. I do think we will get the wrong end of at least a couple calls against the Vikings however. It is something we will just have to overcome on the way to the SB. Please
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01-19-2010, 02:29 AM	#13
Armyofderek Senior Moment Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: MPLS Posts: 130	Re: CONSPIRACY Originally Posted by mikesaintfan Hmm how far will the nfl go to get us out?..this is their last chance..the vikes will have some extra help from the zebras i think Awesome, Vikes fans think the same thing. There isnt much difference between in a Saints and a Vikings fan- our team has just failed more times on bigger stages. Secretly, I think both fan bases are waiting for the kick to the teeth but someone HAS to win and it shouldnt come down to a bad call anyways. If it does, the loser probably wont have deserved it anyway. (Just so you know, I'm pretty sure the Saints only played 4 playoff teams in a weaker division than the North.)

01-19-2010, 12:00 PM	#14
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: CONSPIRACY Originally Posted by cargojon Please You probably think there was only one ref betting on games in the NBA too. I say please to your naivety.
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01-19-2010, 12:16 PM	#15
cargojon 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 576	Re: CONSPIRACY Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL You probably think there was only one ref betting on games in the NBA too. I say please to your naivety. So who all is in on this conspiracy? A couple of refs? Mike Pereira? Roger Goodell? My wife used to work for a VP in the NFL in New York. Believe me, there are no conspiracies that the league is involved with.
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01-19-2010, 12:39 PM	#16
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: CONSPIRACY If there was a conspiracy going on the Pats would still be in the playoffs.

01-19-2010, 12:45 PM	#17
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: CONSPIRACY My point is that there are obvious cases where the league has shown preference to certain teams and players and the Saints have never been one of them while Favre has. From terrible calls to "home" games overseas, the list of ways the league has wronged us goes on and on. I'm not going to throw out names in a sweeping net attempt to accuse anyone. But just because your wife is not aware of any bias doesn't mean it isn't there. I'm not surprised the perpetrators, whoever they are, did not share it with her. I have seen too many examples of it happen. You can believe it is bad luck or human error. I believe dollars has more to do with it. It is like the Jordan rules in basketball or the steroid era in baseball. When star players and teams win games and put up big stats it attracts more fans, and that is what they are hoping for. It doesn't take a big secretive agenda to realize the league sells more tickets, sells more merchandise, and sells more TV time to sponsors when certain teams and players win.
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01-19-2010, 12:48 PM	#18
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: CONSPIRACY Obvious cases??? You can't say that unless you list them? The league hasn't wrong the Saints?

01-19-2010, 01:04 PM	#19
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: CONSPIRACY Originally Posted by Euphoria Obvious cases??? You can't say that unless you list them? This is not a question, but I did list two cases earlier with the Steeler’s SB wins. If you have watched as much football as you claim then I am sure you can think of a few more yourself. Your comment about the Pats indicates you think the league favors them, hence proving my point. The league hasn't wrong the Saints? Not sure what you are saying with this grammar.
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01-19-2010, 01:08 PM	#20
WifeUnit The Better Half Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 116	Re: CONSPIRACY Originally Posted by mikesaintfan Hmm how far will the nfl go to get us out?..this is their last chance..the vikes will have some extra help from the zebras i think I personally think that the Patriots only made it to the Superbowl in the 2001/2002 season because of extra help from refs. After 9-11, they became the favorites and they had to win as a sort of Patriotic symbol. JMHO

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