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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; St Mike, think about what you wrote. The ref's actions would be very far removed from any financial benefit he might receive. Favre sells jerseys. If I throw a flag, Favre goes to the SB. Revenues increase league wide by ...

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Old 01-19-2010, 04:40 PM   #1
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St Mike, think about what you wrote. The ref's actions would be very far removed from any financial benefit he might receive.

Favre sells jerseys. If I throw a flag, Favre goes to the SB. Revenues increase league wide by .0000001%. Commish sees this increase and spreads the wealth to all refs. The difference in my pocketbook is .05% --- maybe, if all goes well with my evil scheme.

Payday baby!
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Old 01-19-2010, 05:32 PM   #2
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St Mike, think about what you wrote. The ref's actions would be very far removed from any financial benefit he might receive.

Favre sells jerseys. If I throw a flag, Favre goes to the SB. Revenues increase league wide by .0000001%. Commish sees this increase and spreads the wealth to all refs. The difference in my pocketbook is .05% --- maybe, if all goes well with my evil scheme.

Payday baby!
Werll, let me think about it I don't know about your percentages (and I'm guessing you don't know either how much percentage a ref's paycheck was affected by your example), but to refs who work jobs outside of the NFL, I doubt it is meaningless. If Favre wins a SB under the Vikes, then many more jerseys, hats, and T shirts get sold than if the Saints win the SB. Not to mention if the Vikes reach the SB rather than the Saints, the TV ratings would be higher by a few points easily nationwide, not to mention world wide. That means multi millions more from TV advertisers. Don't kid yourself into thinking those dollars don't matter. No, it may not mean an extra few bucks in the pocket of the refs next week, but it may mean a few mill in the ref's contract renewal when it comes up. That is not insignificant to them. they are a union. unions do what is best for them as a whole, not what is best for the individual.
You THINK about it. How else do you explain the multiple BS calls over the years that have given multiple SB victories to the Cowboys, Steelers, and Pats and have shafted the Seahawks, Saints and Cards? Akam's razor. It is more likely that all these calls went for the darling money makers of the league because of profit rather than because of human error. Otherwise it would be closer to a 50-50 split. They look at the big picture (unlike you do with your example), so no, it is not "I get $50 bucks if I throw this flag". They know in the end who it behooves them to have win. Tell me this. How often have you heard someone say the NFL wants this big name team vs this big name team in the SB (read this thread to see many examples). We all have. Most of the time it does not happen but we all heard it. Yet no one hints they want Atl vs Cleveland...or Detroit vs Jacksonville...or Saints vs KC. Why? It is because even a moron knows they really don't want those matchups! Those SBs would be a TV viewing nightmare resulting in multi million dollar losses for the league. Wich means losses for the refs down the line (I.E. Union contarcts). If you don't see this, then oh, well.
All I know is, Go Saints! Because when we do get over this hump and win despite these obsticles I believe exist, it will be even more sweet!
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Old 01-19-2010, 05:55 PM   #3
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Werll, let me think about it I don't know about your percentages (and I'm guessing you don't know either how much percentage a ref's paycheck was affected by your example), but to refs who work jobs outside of the NFL, I doubt it is meaningless. If Favre wins a SB under the Vikes, then many more jerseys, hats, and T shirts get sold than if the Saints win the SB. Not to mention if the Vikes reach the SB rather than the Saints, the TV ratings would be higher by a few points easily nationwide, not to mention world wide. That means multi millions more from TV advertisers. Don't kid yourself into thinking those dollars don't matter. No, it may not mean an extra few bucks in the pocket of the refs next week, but it may mean a few mill in the ref's contract renewal when it comes up. That is not insignificant to them. they are a union. unions do what is best for them as a whole, not what is best for the individual.
You THINK about it. How else do you explain the multiple BS calls over the years that have given multiple SB victories to the Cowboys, Steelers, and Pats and have shafted the Seahawks, Saints and Cards? Akam's razor. It is more likely that all these calls went for the darling money makers of the league because of profit rather than because of human error. Otherwise it would be closer to a 50-50 split. They look at the big picture (unlike you do with your example), so no, it is not "I get $50 bucks if I throw this flag". They know in the end who it behooves them to have win. Tell me this. How often have you heard someone say the NFL wants this big name team vs this big name team in the SB (read this thread to see many examples). We all have. Most of the time it does not happen but we all heard it. Yet no one hints they want Atl vs Cleveland...or Detroit vs Jacksonville...or Saints vs KC. Why? It is because even a moron knows they really don't want those matchups! Those SBs would be a TV viewing nightmare resulting in multi million dollar losses for the league. Wich means losses for the refs down the line (I.E. Union contarcts). If you don't see this, then oh, well.
All I know is, Go Saints! Because when we do get over this hump and win despite these obsticles I believe exist, it will be even more sweet!
Dude do you live in a bunker in Montana or something?
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Old 01-19-2010, 06:11 PM   #4
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Dude do you live in a bunker in Montana or something?
Not a bunker, a ranch.
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Old 01-19-2010, 06:06 PM   #5
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Werll, let me think about it I don't know about your percentages (and I'm guessing you don't know either how much percentage a ref's paycheck was affected by your example), but to refs who work jobs outside of the NFL, I doubt it is meaningless. If Favre wins a SB under the Vikes, then many more jerseys, hats, and T shirts get sold than if the Saints win the SB. Not to mention if the Vikes reach the SB rather than the Saints, the TV ratings would be higher by a few points easily nationwide, not to mention world wide. That means multi millions more from TV advertisers. Don't kid yourself into thinking those dollars don't matter. No, it may not mean an extra few bucks in the pocket of the refs next week, but it may mean a few mill in the ref's contract renewal when it comes up. That is not insignificant to them. they are a union. unions do what is best for them as a whole, not what is best for the individual.
You THINK about it. How else do you explain the multiple BS calls over the years that have given multiple SB victories to the Cowboys, Steelers, and Pats and have shafted the Seahawks, Saints and Cards? Akam's razor. It is more likely that all these calls went for the darling money makers of the league because of profit rather than because of human error. Otherwise it would be closer to a 50-50 split. They look at the big picture (unlike you do with your example), so no, it is not "I get $50 bucks if I throw this flag". They know in the end who it behooves them to have win. Tell me this. How often have you heard someone say the NFL wants this big name team vs this big name team in the SB (read this thread to see many examples). We all have. Most of the time it does not happen but we all heard it. Yet no one hints they want Atl vs Cleveland...or Detroit vs Jacksonville...or Saints vs KC. Why? It is because even a moron knows they really don't want those matchups! Those SBs would be a TV viewing nightmare resulting in multi million dollar losses for the league. Wich means losses for the refs down the line (I.E. Union contarcts). If you don't see this, then oh, well.
All I know is, Go Saints! Because when we do get over this hump and win despite these obsticles I believe exist, it will be even more sweet!

Sorry, but there is no way I am reading that.
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Old 01-19-2010, 06:21 PM   #6
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Sorry, but there is no way I am reading that.
Not suprising. If it doesn't agree with you, then the hell with it.
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Why is this even still an issue??

Can we please not turn on each other?

If you believe in conspiracies, fine. If not, fine.

Just stop bringing down the morale of the rest of us, please!

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Old 01-19-2010, 06:36 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by breesfan27 View Post
Why is this even still an issue??

Can we please not turn on each other?

If you believe in conspiracies, fine. If not, fine.

Just stop bringing down the morale of the rest of us, please!

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+1

There is not a fan of any team in the NFL or another other sport, college, pro, little league, whatever, who doesn't think the refs have it in for them.

Heck my Mom swears the BlueJays were favored by Coach Causey back when I was playing second base for my peewee league Tigers team. I mean, she was right of course...the man was blind as a drunk bat, but I digress...

There is no conspiracy unless we're talking about the NBA. Otherwise it's all on the up and up.
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Old 01-20-2010, 11:32 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL View Post
Not suprising. If it doesn't agree with you, then the hell with it.

Hah, I have no idea as to whether I agree with it. Like I said, I did not read it.

If you want people to actually read your posts try using down short coherent sentences and paragraphs. It is just easier on the eyes and it helps to convey your message.
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