4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf

cargojon · 01-24-2010, 10:15 AM

This game is not leaning in favor of the Vikings, as they just simply aren't as good.

Fleured · 01-24-2010, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by exile

Of all the stats to bring up you pick this one? Useless.

Vike4Life · 01-24-2010, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by mighty12

Well then if you want to bring stats into the conversation, then let's take a look at the other two road teams who play in a dome............The Lions and the Rams!?!?!?!?!? A combined 3-29. Oh my that is what I would call a defining win. So let's just say being 2-0 away in a dome vs. the cellar of the NFL doesn't count. That is like saying, "The Saints destroyed the Cards, and they beat up on the Vikes......Saints will win."

You are correct the two away games on turf were against horrible teams, just like the Bucs... which the Saints lost to at HOME. Choke...

I wouldn't bring up the Cards, because that was an away game for the Vikes and the Cards are the epitome of a "Jekyll and Hyde" team.

Where as your Cowboy game was at home and the Vikes demolished a HOT Cowboys team.

Vike4Life · 01-24-2010, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Fleured

I've brought up many other stats in other threads, I was just responding to the constant Saints fan response of the Vikes being 4-4 on the road. That the Vikes are a poor road team, which could be because of grass as the Vikes are built for speed which is best on artificial turf.

mighty12 · 01-24-2010, 10:34 AM

So you ARE going to take that "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" only when it is convenient? You want to talk about horrible games? How about letting Jay "INT King" Cutler have a career game without their leading receiver. None of these "stats" or "like team" comparisons mean anything in a Divisional playoff game. This is #1 vs. #2 and it will be no holds barred! Like I said before good luck!

Vike4Life · 01-24-2010, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by cargojon

This game is not leaning in favor of the Vikings, as they just simply aren't as good.

Very logical response

The Saints offense is marginally better, but is also significantly helped by turnovers and D scoring. Vikes D is significantly better at run stopping and pass rush, although secondary is worse. Vikes are also better on special teams, with Harvin as KR and Longwell for FG's. Who is your FG kicker? How experienced is he?

Vikes are the better team, the Saints advantage is the home crowd. So it's not the Saints team it's the fans the Vikes need to get out of the game.

Vike4Life · 01-24-2010, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by mighty12

So you ARE going to take that "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" only when it is convenient? You want to talk about horrible games? How about letting Jay "INT King" Cutler have a career game without their leading receiver. None of these "stats" or "like team" comparisons mean anything in a Divisional playoff game. This is #1 vs. #2 and it will be no holds barred! Like I said before good luck!

I didn't bring up the "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" you did. I just showed it goes both ways.

Bear's were a 7-9 team and Vikes lost on the road and out scored the Bears 30-14 in second half to go into OT. Whereas the Saints lost to the 3-13 Bucs which beat you at home, and the Bucs out scored the Saints 14-0 in the 4th to tie the game. The Saints choked big time.

SmashMouth · 01-24-2010, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by gumbeau

Entrails would be better plus you could eat the chicken.

I like that ... a little Viking Gumbeaux!

We have three PRO-BOWLERS at the O-Line too ... Evans is better than Hutch. Last year the the Queens could not stop Reggie. They won't again this year! And besides Rice, there are also-rans at WR for the Queens. Greer is the number two shutdown corner after Revis, Sharper can pick off the Favre's eyes and errant throws!

spkb25 · 01-24-2010, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Vike4Life

Very logical response The Saints offense is marginally better, but is also significantly helped by turnovers and D scoring. Vikes D is significantly better at run stopping and pass rush, although secondary is worse. Vikes are also better on special teams, with Harvin as KR and Longwell for FG's. Who is your FG kicker? How experienced is he?

Vikes are the better team, the Saints advantage is the home crowd. So it's not the Saints team it's the fans the Vikes need to get out of the game.

Harvin looked exhausted in the interview his team player did of him. I mean exhausted. Truthfully, and I am not being sarcastic, I felt for the man. He must be in misery. Does that mean he can't come out and have his best game ever, no- a lot of times players step up and do just that, but by the look of things- he should not play. He probably will, but he probably should not.

breesfan27 · 01-24-2010, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by exile

Of all the stats to bring up you pick this one? Useless.

Yeah, I was just thinking that...

Just like a troll's need to argue... useless.

01-24-2010, 10:15 AM	#11
cargojon 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 576	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf This game is not leaning in favor of the Vikings, as they just simply aren't as good.
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01-24-2010, 10:19 AM	#12
Fleured The NY Geaux Getter Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 348	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by exile Of all the stats to bring up you pick this one? Useless.

01-24-2010, 10:25 AM	#13
Vike4Life Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 72	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by mighty12 Well then if you want to bring stats into the conversation, then let's take a look at the other two road teams who play in a dome............The Lions and the Rams!?!?!?!?!? A combined 3-29. Oh my that is what I would call a defining win. So let's just say being 2-0 away in a dome vs. the cellar of the NFL doesn't count. That is like saying, "The Saints destroyed the Cards, and they beat up on the Vikes......Saints will win." You are correct the two away games on turf were against horrible teams, just like the Bucs... which the Saints lost to at HOME. Choke... I wouldn't bring up the Cards, because that was an away game for the Vikes and the Cards are the epitome of a "Jekyll and Hyde" team. Where as your Cowboy game was at home and the Vikes demolished a HOT Cowboys team.
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01-24-2010, 10:28 AM	#14
Vike4Life Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 72	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by Fleured I've brought up many other stats in other threads, I was just responding to the constant Saints fan response of the Vikes being 4-4 on the road. That the Vikes are a poor road team, which could be because of grass as the Vikes are built for speed which is best on artificial turf.
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01-24-2010, 10:34 AM	#15
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf So you ARE going to take that "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" only when it is convenient? You want to talk about horrible games? How about letting Jay "INT King" Cutler have a career game without their leading receiver. None of these "stats" or "like team" comparisons mean anything in a Divisional playoff game. This is #1 vs. #2 and it will be no holds barred! Like I said before good luck!

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01-24-2010, 10:35 AM	#16
Vike4Life Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 72	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by cargojon This game is not leaning in favor of the Vikings, as they just simply aren't as good. Very logical response The Saints offense is marginally better, but is also significantly helped by turnovers and D scoring. Vikes D is significantly better at run stopping and pass rush, although secondary is worse. Vikes are also better on special teams, with Harvin as KR and Longwell for FG's. Who is your FG kicker? How experienced is he? Vikes are the better team, the Saints advantage is the home crowd. So it's not the Saints team it's the fans the Vikes need to get out of the game.
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01-24-2010, 10:45 AM	#17
Vike4Life Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 72	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by mighty12 So you ARE going to take that "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" only when it is convenient? You want to talk about horrible games? How about letting Jay "INT King" Cutler have a career game without their leading receiver. None of these "stats" or "like team" comparisons mean anything in a Divisional playoff game. This is #1 vs. #2 and it will be no holds barred! Like I said before good luck! I didn't bring up the "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" you did. I just showed it goes both ways. Bear's were a 7-9 team and Vikes lost on the road and out scored the Bears 30-14 in second half to go into OT. Whereas the Saints lost to the 3-13 Bucs which beat you at home, and the Bucs out scored the Saints 14-0 in the 4th to tie the game. The Saints choked big time.
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01-24-2010, 10:46 AM	#18
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by gumbeau Entrails would be better plus you could eat the chicken. I like that ... a little Viking Gumbeaux! We have three PRO-BOWLERS at the O-Line too ... Evans is better than Hutch. Last year the the Queens could not stop Reggie. They won't again this year! And besides Rice, there are also-rans at WR for the Queens. Greer is the number two shutdown corner after Revis, Sharper can pick off the Favre's eyes and errant throws!

01-24-2010, 10:47 AM	#19
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by Vike4Life Very logical response The Saints offense is marginally better, but is also significantly helped by turnovers and D scoring. Vikes D is significantly better at run stopping and pass rush, although secondary is worse. Vikes are also better on special teams, with Harvin as KR and Longwell for FG's. Who is your FG kicker? How experienced is he? Vikes are the better team, the Saints advantage is the home crowd. So it's not the Saints team it's the fans the Vikes need to get out of the game. Harvin looked exhausted in the interview his team player did of him. I mean exhausted. Truthfully, and I am not being sarcastic, I felt for the man. He must be in misery. Does that mean he can't come out and have his best game ever, no- a lot of times players step up and do just that, but by the look of things- he should not play. He probably will, but he probably should not.

01-24-2010, 10:53 AM	#20
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by exile Of all the stats to bring up you pick this one? Useless. Yeah, I was just thinking that... Just like a troll's need to argue... useless.

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