4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf

Vike4Life · 01-24-2010, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by mighty12

So you ARE going to take that "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" only when it is convenient? You want to talk about horrible games? How about letting Jay "INT King" Cutler have a career game without their leading receiver. None of these "stats" or "like team" comparisons mean anything in a Divisional playoff game. This is #1 vs. #2 and it will be no holds barred! Like I said before good luck!

I didn't bring up the "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" you did. I just showed it goes both ways.

Bear's were a 7-9 team and Vikes lost on the road and out scored the Bears 30-14 in second half to go into OT. Whereas the Saints lost to the 3-13 Bucs which beat you at home, and the Bucs out scored the Saints 14-0 in the 4th to tie the game. The Saints choked big time.

spkb25 · 01-24-2010, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Vike4Life

I didn't bring up the "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" you did. I just showed it goes both ways.

Bear's were a 7-9 team and Vikes lost on the road and out scored the Bears 30-14 in second half to go into OT. Whereas the Saints lost to the 3-13 Bucs which beat you at home, and the Bucs out scored the Saints 14-0 in the 4th to tie the game. The Saints choked big time.

I do not believe that who you beat,a nd who we beat matters. I mean that a not so great O in San Fran took you to the last seconds- in your house or that you barely beat a not so great Ravens team at home. Non of that matters today. We are going to get your best, and you will get ours. This game is tough for both teams. I have no illusions- the Vikes are a very good team, and this game could go either way. I like our team though, and if we pressure Favre- he will throw int's!! It is a big if though- like I said you have a great team in Minny, but you all better stop thinking your coming to play some slouch team.

Vike4Life · 01-24-2010, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I do not believe that who you beat,a nd who we beat matters. I mean that a not so great O in San Fran took you to the last seconds- in your house or that you barely beat a not so great Ravens team at home. Non of that matters today. We are going to get your best, and you will get ours. This game is tough for both teams. I have no illusions- the Vikes are a very good team, and this game could go either way. I like our team though, and if we pressure Favre- he will throw int's!! It is a big if though- like I said you have a great team in Minny, but you all better stop thinking your coming to play some slouch team.

I totally agree, I'm not expecting a blowout unless turnovers get involve, but that advantage goes for the Vikes as the Vikes have turned over the ball 18 times compared to the Saints 28. Saints live by taking the ball away, not by not turning it over themselves. If both teams don't turn the ball over, I think it favors the Vikes.

Should be a great game either way with lots of scoring and lots of x-factors, PR and KR's, sacks, big plays, etc.. It won't be a grind it out game like the Jets-Chargers.

mighty12 · 01-24-2010, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Vike4Life

I didn't bring up the "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" you did. I just showed it goes both ways.

I don't think you read my first response so I will repost it.

'So let's just say being 2-0 away in a dome vs. the cellar of the NFL doesn't count. That is like saying, "The Saints destroyed the Cards, and they beat up on the Vikes......Saints will win."'

Just in case you still don't get it, I am referring to how STUPID the two arguments are.

Vike4Life · 01-24-2010, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by mighty12

I don't think you read my first response so I will repost it.

'So let's just say being 2-0 away in a dome vs. the cellar of the NFL doesn't count. That is like saying, "The Saints destroyed the Cards, and they beat up on the Vikes......Saints will win."'

Just in case you still don't get it, I am referring to how STUPID the two arguments are.

I apologize for the misread, I've just read the Saints Cards arguement too many times.

As for the 2-0 against horrible teams on artifical turf, the Vikes didn't have any other option. After this game it will have greater weight.

mighty12 · 01-24-2010, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Vike4Life

I apologize for the misread, I've just read the Saints Cards arguement too many times.

As for the 2-0 against horrible teams on artifical turf, the Vikes didn't have any other option. After this game it will have greater weight.

I am sure you hate it as much as we hate the Cowboys Vike argument. Any given Sunday......HELL YEAH!

strato · 01-24-2010, 11:49 AM

Ok i guess if you like sarcastic jabs at our team.. then debate away..sorry my bad.

Vike4Life · 01-24-2010, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by strato

Ok i guess if you like sarcastic jabs at our team.. then debate away..sorry my bad.

I only get sarcastic when the response to one of my stats or observations is "Saints are the better team" and nothing else.

If someone says Saints have better WR's, I'll agree in a second.

If someone says Brees is better than Favre, it's debateable as I think experience helps over youth. But lets face it they both have top QB ratings so both are not Sanchez

If someone says Bush is better than Harvin, I say given this season which is all we have on Harvin, he's not. But Bush has shown he is a different player in the playoffs and Harvin is not 100%.

If someone says, Saints CB's are better, hands down they are right.

If someone says Evans is better than Hutchinson, I just laugh. There is a good chance Hutch will be a HOFer and still has lots in the tank.

If someone says, Shockey is better than Shiancoe, I say Shock might be marginally better, but not while he's hurting.

If someone says Bush, Thomas, and Bell are better than Peterson and Taylor. Look in the Saints' box, count to 8 or 9. If not, count to 10+yds. Favre counts on single coverage on Rice or Berrian.

If someone says Hartley is better than Longwell at FG's, I say, pray the pressure doesn't make Hartley choke. Longwell has been there and done that.

There are pluses and minuses on both sides, I point out the Vikes. I don't consider it smack talk. But I'm fully capable of agreeing with Saint fans on several points. But I'm not inclined to point them out like above.

01-24-2010, 09:45 AM	#1
Vike4Life Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 72	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by mighty12 So you ARE going to take that "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" only when it is convenient? You want to talk about horrible games? How about letting Jay "INT King" Cutler have a career game without their leading receiver. None of these "stats" or "like team" comparisons mean anything in a Divisional playoff game. This is #1 vs. #2 and it will be no holds barred! Like I said before good luck! I didn't bring up the "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" you did. I just showed it goes both ways. Bear's were a 7-9 team and Vikes lost on the road and out scored the Bears 30-14 in second half to go into OT. Whereas the Saints lost to the 3-13 Bucs which beat you at home, and the Bucs out scored the Saints 14-0 in the 4th to tie the game. The Saints choked big time.
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01-24-2010, 10:04 AM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by Vike4Life I didn't bring up the "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" you did. I just showed it goes both ways. Bear's were a 7-9 team and Vikes lost on the road and out scored the Bears 30-14 in second half to go into OT. Whereas the Saints lost to the 3-13 Bucs which beat you at home, and the Bucs out scored the Saints 14-0 in the 4th to tie the game. The Saints choked big time. I do not believe that who you beat,a nd who we beat matters. I mean that a not so great O in San Fran took you to the last seconds- in your house or that you barely beat a not so great Ravens team at home. Non of that matters today. We are going to get your best, and you will get ours. This game is tough for both teams. I have no illusions- the Vikes are a very good team, and this game could go either way. I like our team though, and if we pressure Favre- he will throw int's!! It is a big if though- like I said you have a great team in Minny, but you all better stop thinking your coming to play some slouch team.
	Your team stinks

01-24-2010, 10:28 AM	#3
Vike4Life Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 72	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by spkb25 I do not believe that who you beat,a nd who we beat matters. I mean that a not so great O in San Fran took you to the last seconds- in your house or that you barely beat a not so great Ravens team at home. Non of that matters today. We are going to get your best, and you will get ours. This game is tough for both teams. I have no illusions- the Vikes are a very good team, and this game could go either way. I like our team though, and if we pressure Favre- he will throw int's!! It is a big if though- like I said you have a great team in Minny, but you all better stop thinking your coming to play some slouch team. I totally agree, I'm not expecting a blowout unless turnovers get involve, but that advantage goes for the Vikes as the Vikes have turned over the ball 18 times compared to the Saints 28. Saints live by taking the ball away, not by not turning it over themselves. If both teams don't turn the ball over, I think it favors the Vikes. Should be a great game either way with lots of scoring and lots of x-factors, PR and KR's, sacks, big plays, etc.. It won't be a grind it out game like the Jets-Chargers.
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01-24-2010, 10:11 AM	#4
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by Vike4Life I didn't bring up the "We beat X team you guys lost to X team, we will win!" you did. I just showed it goes both ways. I don't think you read my first response so I will repost it. 'So let's just say being 2-0 away in a dome vs. the cellar of the NFL doesn't count. That is like saying, "The Saints destroyed the Cards, and they beat up on the Vikes......Saints will win."' Just in case you still don't get it, I am referring to how STUPID the two arguments are.

01-24-2010, 10:16 AM	#5
Vike4Life Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 72	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by mighty12 I don't think you read my first response so I will repost it. 'So let's just say being 2-0 away in a dome vs. the cellar of the NFL doesn't count. That is like saying, "The Saints destroyed the Cards, and they beat up on the Vikes......Saints will win."' Just in case you still don't get it, I am referring to how STUPID the two arguments are. I apologize for the misread, I've just read the Saints Cards arguement too many times. As for the 2-0 against horrible teams on artifical turf, the Vikes didn't have any other option. After this game it will have greater weight.
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01-24-2010, 11:41 AM	#6
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by Vike4Life I apologize for the misread, I've just read the Saints Cards arguement too many times. As for the 2-0 against horrible teams on artifical turf, the Vikes didn't have any other option. After this game it will have greater weight. I am sure you hate it as much as we hate the Cowboys Vike argument. Any given Sunday......HELL YEAH!

01-24-2010, 11:49 AM	#7
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Ok i guess if you like sarcastic jabs at our team.. then debate away..sorry my bad.
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01-24-2010, 12:50 PM	#8
Vike4Life Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 72	Re: 4 on grass, 11 on artifical turf Originally Posted by strato Ok i guess if you like sarcastic jabs at our team.. then debate away..sorry my bad. I only get sarcastic when the response to one of my stats or observations is "Saints are the better team" and nothing else. If someone says Saints have better WR's, I'll agree in a second. If someone says Brees is better than Favre, it's debateable as I think experience helps over youth. But lets face it they both have top QB ratings so both are not Sanchez If someone says Bush is better than Harvin, I say given this season which is all we have on Harvin, he's not. But Bush has shown he is a different player in the playoffs and Harvin is not 100%. If someone says, Saints CB's are better, hands down they are right. If someone says Evans is better than Hutchinson, I just laugh. There is a good chance Hutch will be a HOFer and still has lots in the tank. If someone says, Shockey is better than Shiancoe, I say Shock might be marginally better, but not while he's hurting. If someone says Bush, Thomas, and Bell are better than Peterson and Taylor. Look in the Saints' box, count to 8 or 9. If not, count to 10+yds. Favre counts on single coverage on Rice or Berrian. If someone says Hartley is better than Longwell at FG's, I say, pray the pressure doesn't make Hartley choke. Longwell has been there and done that. There are pluses and minuses on both sides, I point out the Vikes. I don't consider it smack talk. But I'm fully capable of agreeing with Saint fans on several points. But I'm not inclined to point them out like above.
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