COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D.

indy4192 · 01-26-2010, 11:18 AM

Wow, where to start;

Our small Defense did just fine in shutting down both the Ravens and Jets rushing game, both have much better O lines then the Saints and better running games.

Next:

The Cards offense is just as explosive as the Saints are and we played and beat them this year.

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We proved in the Jets game we don't need Reggie to have a big game to win, so shut him down, we have a multitude of other options.

Next:

We run the ball when we need to and do so just fine. We are not a run first team.

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Final score: Colts 35 --- Saints 28

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

there is one thing that the colts are better at than the vikings were.....in fact.....its the only thing the colts are good at.....passing the ball

peyton manning is great....but he is not a team

in 2 weeks we will be going up against the best DE tandum in the entire NFL....however, we are also going up against the smallest defensive line in the NFL...that doesnt bode well against our 2 stud guards and our 3 pro bowl offensive linemen

the colts are great...but they have yet to play a team that is as deadly on offense as us.....they played the jets and ravens....2 great defenses and 2 great running offense....but very little threat in the passin game

you remember who covered reggie wayne? well our DB is second in the league in allowing the least amount of catches per times targeted.....right behind that same DB that shut down reggie wayne

the cardinals fans thought we played dirty.....we didnt

the vikings fans thought we played dirty.....we didnt

i know for a fact that after the super bowl all the colts fans are going to be cryin about how dirty our defense is.....and im going to smile and agree

the colts cant and wont run the ball....peyton manning is the colts offense and their defense while underrated is still no match for our #1 ranked offense

everybody keeps talking about how our defense will match up against their offense.....why is that always the case? why doesnt anybody worry about our offense against their defense? despite dominating the league in nearly every offensive category, our offense is underrated

oh and that underrated defense of yours......you are preaching to the choir son......our defense feels the same way

colts average 26 ppg.....saints average 32 ppg

my prediction: 32-26

SAINTS

fwiw.....the vikings averaged 29 ppg.....scored 28 against us.....we scored 31

Tobias-Reiper · 01-26-2010, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by indy4192

Wow, where to start;

Our small Defense did just fine in shutting down both the Ravens and Jets rushing game, both have much better O lines then the Saints and better running games.

The Ravens and the Jets are no threat to pass the ball. Sure you can stop the run with 8-9 in the box all game long. Do you really want the Colts to put 8-9 in the box against Drew Brees? I know I do.

Brees was sacked 20 times on 514 attempts
Sanchez was sacked 26 times on 364 attempts
Flacco was sacked 36 times on 499 attempts
O-line pass blocking advantage: clearly the Saints.

Saints ran the ball 468 times for 2106 yards and a 4.5 average
NY Jets ran the ball 607 times for 2756 yards and a 4.5 average
Ravens ran the ball 468 times for 2200 yards and a 4.7 average
Ok. The Ravens get 7 inches more per carry. Otherwise, neither Jets or Ravens seem to be better at running the ball than the Saints.

Next:

The Cards offense is just as explosive as the Saints are and we played and beat them this year.

No.
The Cardinals scored 375 points all season long.
The Saints scored 510 points all season long.

And the Saints beat the Cards as well. So what?

Next:

We proved in the Jets game we don't need Reggie to have a big game to win, so shut him down, we have a multitude of other options.

.. the Saints D doesn't play to shut anyone down. The Saints D plays to physically beat you up and make you fumble and give the ball back to the offense. . Ask the Vikings how they are feeling today.

Next:

We run the ball when we need to and do so just fine. We are not a run first team.

The Colts don't run the ball because they can't. With all the people who drop back to defend the pass, the Colts should be getting 5 yards a pop.

Next:

Final score: Colts 35 --- Saints 28

.. don't bet the house on that...

indy4192 · 01-26-2010, 12:32 PM

Here to help you out...

Lets see, Sanchez is a rookie and Flacco is in his second year, so both are going to struggle with sacks. Your O line may pass block better, but that doesn't mean they are an overall better line.

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All 3 teams ran the ball well in the regular season. but when they played the Colts, how did they do? How did the top rusher in the NFL do against the Colts? Sorry but the Colts D right now is shutting the run down.

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True the Saints scored more overall points, but are you really saying that the Cards are not as explosive as the Saints? How many more weapons do the Saints offer that the Cards don't? You can't tell me the Saints have a better 1-2 punch at WR then the Cards? You can't say the Saints have a better QB then the Cards? Yes you beat them up in your home, we destroyed them in their own home. Which is more impressive?

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Well lets see, how many of those takeaways were from hard hits? The one fumble by AP was near the goal line and was due to a poor handoff, not any Saint player hitting him. I watche the game, the 1 Viking getting hit was Farve, I didn't see any other "bell ringers" on other Vikings?

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During the regular season your right, you might want to see how we did against two top defenses the two past weeks.

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The major difference in the two teams is glaring. EXPERIENCE. The Saints will struggle with all that is involved in the next two weeks, the Colts have been there and done that. NOT 1 single team in that has played the Colts A team throughout the entire game has beaten the Colts this year, can you say the same for the Saints? You couldn't beat the lowly Bucs in your own home this season and got destroyed by the Cowboys.

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

The Ravens and the Jets are no threat to pass the ball. Sure you can stop the run with 8-9 in the box all game long. Do you really want the Colts to put 8-9 in the box against Drew Brees? I know I do.

Brees was sacked 20 times on 514 attempts
Sanchez was sacked 26 times on 364 attempts
Flacco was sacked 36 times on 499 attempts
O-line pass blocking advantage: clearly the Saints.

Saints ran the ball 468 times for 2106 yards and a 4.5 average
NY Jets ran the ball 607 times for 2756 yards and a 4.5 average
Ravens ran the ball 468 times for 2200 yards and a 4.7 average
Ok. The Ravens get 7 inches more per carry. Otherwise, neither Jets or Ravens seem to be better at running the ball than the Saints.

No.
The Cardinals scored 375 points all season long.
The Saints scored 510 points all season long.

And the Saints beat the Cards as well. So what?

.. the Saints D doesn't play to shut anyone down. The Saints D plays to physically beat you up and make you fumble and give the ball back to the offense. . Ask the Vikings how they are feeling today.

The Colts don't run the ball because they can't. With all the people who drop back to defend the pass, the Colts should be getting 5 yards a pop.

.. don't bet the house on that...

braggbro1 · 01-26-2010, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Brees was sacked 20 times on 514 attempts

Manning was sacked 10 times in 575 attempts this season and yet I keep reading here about how the Saints are going to get to him. You're completely confident you can protect against Freeney and Mathis (remember Ware and Spencer?) and yet also completely confident you can get to Manning. Doesn't make too much sense to me.

You're using stats when they support what you want to believe and ignoring them when they don't. That's all fine and good if you want to build up your confidence before the game but when the game starts, none of the false confidence will matter.

I'm a Colts fan that has picked the Saints to win, but some of the reasoning here simply blows my mind. Both teams have an offensive advantage over the opposing defense. I think the Saints being the better running team gives them an advantage but by no means do I think the Saints are going to stop the Colts offense. This will be a shootout.

xan · 01-26-2010, 09:15 AM

If you look at the skills of our team, it is clear that the front office collected players specifically to confront the Colts in the Super Bowl.

On offense:

Balanced offense to counter overloading and bullrushing D-Line.
Fast WR's/3WR sets to counter cover 2 schemes
Big TE's to give help on the edge blocking and to take the blows in crossing patterns in the middle of the field.
Running back by committee to ensure fresh legs.

On defense:

Adequate run stopping but emphasis on tracking down/pressure the QB
Shut down corners to allow sophisticated blitz packages without unnecessary exposure at the back end.
Freelancing safeties to be opportunistic and ball hawking
LB's who are capable in coverage but quick to close in open field tackle situations.

This isn't to say that our roster has no weaknesses. But it is definitely an attempt to answer the problems posed by the Colts.

braggbro1 · 01-26-2010, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by xan

If you look at the skills of our team, it is clear that the front office collected players specifically to confront the Colts in the Super Bowl.

On offense:

Balanced offense to counter overloading and bullrushing D-Line.

Fast WR's/3WR sets to counter cover 2 schemes

Big TE's to give help on the edge blocking and to take the blows in crossing patterns in the middle of the field.

Running back by committee to ensure fresh legs.

On defense:

Adequate run stopping but emphasis on tracking down/pressure the QB

Shut down corners to allow sophisticated blitz packages without unnecessary exposure at the back end.

Freelancing safeties to be opportunistic and ball hawking

LB's who are capable in coverage but quick to close in open field tackle situations.

This isn't to say that our roster has no weaknesses. But it is definitely an attempt to answer the problems posed by the Colts.

Let me get this. The Saints had never been to the Super Bowl before now, yet you're convinced they were building their team specifically to match up for a potential Super Bowl matchup with the Colts who had only been there once before themselves since moving to Indy. LOL.

Everything on your list is something any team would want to play against anyone, not just a team with the Colts attributes. I would say there's at least a few things there that are embellished, to say the least. I would not say you have shutdown corners. Greg Williams used to be a defensive coordinator in our division. His blitz packages aren't anything unique or more "sophisticated" than you see in many other NFL defenses.

CantonLegend · 01-26-2010, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by braggbro1

Damn. I was under the impression we were somewhat good. How the hell have we won 16 games and made it to the Super Bowl? Oh well. Our fluke season is your benefit.

listen.....im not taking credit away from the guy.....but you guys win because peyton manning is so good.....there isnt another reason you guys have won a single game this season....you guys win on the shoulders of peyton manning because he is arguably the best QB ever....i think its too easy to call him the best but he is definitly up there

your season was no fluke....the colts have been doing the same thing for the past decade.....peyton is a stud and the offensive line keeps him upright so it fits right into his strength

Originally Posted by braggbro1

Let me get this. The Saints had never been to the Super Bowl before now, yet you're convinced they were building their team specifically to match up for a potential Super Bowl matchup with the Colts who had only been there once before themselves since moving to Indy. LOL.

we werent buildin a team to match the colts....it just turned out that way

our running game will control the clock which is a surprise this season.....our defense is allows the least passin TDs in the redzone than any other team in the league

I would not say you have shutdown corners.

NFL Blog: Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports Blogs

Cornerback Jabari Greer(notes): In weeks 1 through 9 of the 2009 season, the Saints ranked third in Football Outsiders' DVOA rankings against the pass. In weeks 10 through 17, they plummeted to 20th. It's no coincidence that Greer, the former Buffalo cornerback signed by the Saints as a free agent in the offseason, missed weeks 10 through 16 with a groin injury after playing spectacularly in the season's first half. Some cornerbacks struggle with man coverage fater playing a lot of zone in prior seasons -- the Saints found this out the hard way when they signed ex-Colt Jason David(notes) after the 2006 season, a disastrous move for all involved. Greer has been just the opposite, ranking second behind only Darrelle Revis(notes) in FO's metrics for NFL cornerbacks (albeit in half a season). Greer will be targeted heavily, as he'll most likely draw the unenviable assignment of covering Reggie Wayne(notes) in the Super Bowl.

bobad · 01-26-2010, 10:16 AM

The biggest threat in the game is Manning's accuracy. He is so accurate
that our good secondary will be negated. All he needs is a 2 foot window.

The only counter to Manning's accuracy is pressure. Nobody has hit him yet
this year. Even the mighty Jets defense couldn't get much pressure on
him. I don't know the solution, but you can bet GG knows the problem and
is looking for one.

Choupique · 01-26-2010, 10:25 AM

The biggest threat in the game is Manning's accuracy. He is so accurate
that our good secondary will be negated. All he needs is a 2 foot window.

You could easily be talking about Cool Brees too. That negates the Manning X factor to a degree. We'll be doing the same to them. Our cornerbacks and the Harper/Sharper combo is better than what they have.

Advantage Saints, actually.

The only counter to Manning's accuracy is pressure. Nobody has hit him yet
this year. Even the mighty Jets defense couldn't get much pressure on
him.

That is what the Nation of Haters was saying prior to the VyQueens game. Ask Favre Bean how that worked out for him.

The Saints did that WITHOUT Grant.

Advantage Saints.

The Dolts are going down. It is destiny. It is our time.

JoanieNTX · 01-26-2010, 12:58 PM

LOL, ya'll know you can't argue with these people! Let the game begin!!!

01-26-2010, 11:18 AM	#1
indy4192 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 122	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Wow, where to start; Our small Defense did just fine in shutting down both the Ravens and Jets rushing game, both have much better O lines then the Saints and better running games. Next: The Cards offense is just as explosive as the Saints are and we played and beat them this year. Next: We proved in the Jets game we don't need Reggie to have a big game to win, so shut him down, we have a multitude of other options. Next: We run the ball when we need to and do so just fine. We are not a run first team. Next: Final score: Colts 35 --- Saints 28 Originally Posted by CantonLegend there is one thing that the colts are better at than the vikings were.....in fact.....its the only thing the colts are good at.....passing the ball peyton manning is great....but he is not a team in 2 weeks we will be going up against the best DE tandum in the entire NFL....however, we are also going up against the smallest defensive line in the NFL...that doesnt bode well against our 2 stud guards and our 3 pro bowl offensive linemen the colts are great...but they have yet to play a team that is as deadly on offense as us.....they played the jets and ravens....2 great defenses and 2 great running offense....but very little threat in the passin game you remember who covered reggie wayne? well our DB is second in the league in allowing the least amount of catches per times targeted.....right behind that same DB that shut down reggie wayne the cardinals fans thought we played dirty.....we didnt the vikings fans thought we played dirty.....we didnt i know for a fact that after the super bowl all the colts fans are going to be cryin about how dirty our defense is.....and im going to smile and agree the colts cant and wont run the ball....peyton manning is the colts offense and their defense while underrated is still no match for our #1 ranked offense everybody keeps talking about how our defense will match up against their offense.....why is that always the case? why doesnt anybody worry about our offense against their defense? despite dominating the league in nearly every offensive category, our offense is underrated oh and that underrated defense of yours......you are preaching to the choir son......our defense feels the same way colts average 26 ppg.....saints average 32 ppg my prediction: 32-26 SAINTS fwiw.....the vikings averaged 29 ppg.....scored 28 against us.....we scored 31
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01-26-2010, 11:53 AM	#2
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by indy4192 Wow, where to start; Our small Defense did just fine in shutting down both the Ravens and Jets rushing game, both have much better O lines then the Saints and better running games. The Ravens and the Jets are no threat to pass the ball. Sure you can stop the run with 8-9 in the box all game long. Do you really want the Colts to put 8-9 in the box against Drew Brees? I know I do. Brees was sacked 20 times on 514 attempts Sanchez was sacked 26 times on 364 attempts Flacco was sacked 36 times on 499 attempts O-line pass blocking advantage: clearly the Saints. Saints ran the ball 468 times for 2106 yards and a 4.5 average NY Jets ran the ball 607 times for 2756 yards and a 4.5 average Ravens ran the ball 468 times for 2200 yards and a 4.7 average Ok. The Ravens get 7 inches more per carry. Otherwise, neither Jets or Ravens seem to be better at running the ball than the Saints. Next: The Cards offense is just as explosive as the Saints are and we played and beat them this year. No. The Cardinals scored 375 points all season long. The Saints scored 510 points all season long. And the Saints beat the Cards as well. So what? Next: We proved in the Jets game we don't need Reggie to have a big game to win, so shut him down, we have a multitude of other options. .. the Saints D doesn't play to shut anyone down. The Saints D plays to physically beat you up and make you fumble and give the ball back to the offense. . Ask the Vikings how they are feeling today. Next: We run the ball when we need to and do so just fine. We are not a run first team. The Colts don't run the ball because they can't. With all the people who drop back to defend the pass, the Colts should be getting 5 yards a pop. Next: Final score: Colts 35 --- Saints 28 .. don't bet the house on that...
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01-26-2010, 12:32 PM	#3
indy4192 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 122	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Here to help you out... Lets see, Sanchez is a rookie and Flacco is in his second year, so both are going to struggle with sacks. Your O line may pass block better, but that doesn't mean they are an overall better line. Next: All 3 teams ran the ball well in the regular season. but when they played the Colts, how did they do? How did the top rusher in the NFL do against the Colts? Sorry but the Colts D right now is shutting the run down. Next: True the Saints scored more overall points, but are you really saying that the Cards are not as explosive as the Saints? How many more weapons do the Saints offer that the Cards don't? You can't tell me the Saints have a better 1-2 punch at WR then the Cards? You can't say the Saints have a better QB then the Cards? Yes you beat them up in your home, we destroyed them in their own home. Which is more impressive? Next: Well lets see, how many of those takeaways were from hard hits? The one fumble by AP was near the goal line and was due to a poor handoff, not any Saint player hitting him. I watche the game, the 1 Viking getting hit was Farve, I didn't see any other "bell ringers" on other Vikings? Next: During the regular season your right, you might want to see how we did against two top defenses the two past weeks. Next: The major difference in the two teams is glaring. EXPERIENCE. The Saints will struggle with all that is involved in the next two weeks, the Colts have been there and done that. NOT 1 single team in that has played the Colts A team throughout the entire game has beaten the Colts this year, can you say the same for the Saints? You couldn't beat the lowly Bucs in your own home this season and got destroyed by the Cowboys. Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper The Ravens and the Jets are no threat to pass the ball. Sure you can stop the run with 8-9 in the box all game long. Do you really want the Colts to put 8-9 in the box against Drew Brees? I know I do. Brees was sacked 20 times on 514 attempts Sanchez was sacked 26 times on 364 attempts Flacco was sacked 36 times on 499 attempts O-line pass blocking advantage: clearly the Saints. Saints ran the ball 468 times for 2106 yards and a 4.5 average NY Jets ran the ball 607 times for 2756 yards and a 4.5 average Ravens ran the ball 468 times for 2200 yards and a 4.7 average Ok. The Ravens get 7 inches more per carry. Otherwise, neither Jets or Ravens seem to be better at running the ball than the Saints. No. The Cardinals scored 375 points all season long. The Saints scored 510 points all season long. And the Saints beat the Cards as well. So what? .. the Saints D doesn't play to shut anyone down. The Saints D plays to physically beat you up and make you fumble and give the ball back to the offense. . Ask the Vikings how they are feeling today. The Colts don't run the ball because they can't. With all the people who drop back to defend the pass, the Colts should be getting 5 yards a pop. .. don't bet the house on that...
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01-26-2010, 12:35 PM	#4
braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Brees was sacked 20 times on 514 attempts Manning was sacked 10 times in 575 attempts this season and yet I keep reading here about how the Saints are going to get to him. You're completely confident you can protect against Freeney and Mathis (remember Ware and Spencer?) and yet also completely confident you can get to Manning. Doesn't make too much sense to me. You're using stats when they support what you want to believe and ignoring them when they don't. That's all fine and good if you want to build up your confidence before the game but when the game starts, none of the false confidence will matter. I'm a Colts fan that has picked the Saints to win, but some of the reasoning here simply blows my mind. Both teams have an offensive advantage over the opposing defense. I think the Saints being the better running team gives them an advantage but by no means do I think the Saints are going to stop the Colts offense. This will be a shootout.
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01-26-2010, 09:15 AM	#5
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01-26-2010, 09:28 AM	#6
braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by xan If you look at the skills of our team, it is clear that the front office collected players specifically to confront the Colts in the Super Bowl. On offense: Balanced offense to counter overloading and bullrushing D-Line. Fast WR's/3WR sets to counter cover 2 schemes Big TE's to give help on the edge blocking and to take the blows in crossing patterns in the middle of the field. Running back by committee to ensure fresh legs. On defense: Adequate run stopping but emphasis on tracking down/pressure the QB Shut down corners to allow sophisticated blitz packages without unnecessary exposure at the back end. Freelancing safeties to be opportunistic and ball hawking LB's who are capable in coverage but quick to close in open field tackle situations. This isn't to say that our roster has no weaknesses. But it is definitely an attempt to answer the problems posed by the Colts. Let me get this. The Saints had never been to the Super Bowl before now, yet you're convinced they were building their team specifically to match up for a potential Super Bowl matchup with the Colts who had only been there once before themselves since moving to Indy. LOL. Everything on your list is something any team would want to play against anyone, not just a team with the Colts attributes. I would say there's at least a few things there that are embellished, to say the least. I would not say you have shutdown corners. Greg Williams used to be a defensive coordinator in our division. His blitz packages aren't anything unique or more "sophisticated" than you see in many other NFL defenses.
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01-26-2010, 09:41 AM	#7
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by braggbro1 Damn. I was under the impression we were somewhat good. How the hell have we won 16 games and made it to the Super Bowl? Oh well. Our fluke season is your benefit. listen.....im not taking credit away from the guy.....but you guys win because peyton manning is so good.....there isnt another reason you guys have won a single game this season....you guys win on the shoulders of peyton manning because he is arguably the best QB ever....i think its too easy to call him the best but he is definitly up there your season was no fluke....the colts have been doing the same thing for the past decade.....peyton is a stud and the offensive line keeps him upright so it fits right into his strength Originally Posted by braggbro1 Let me get this. The Saints had never been to the Super Bowl before now, yet you're convinced they were building their team specifically to match up for a potential Super Bowl matchup with the Colts who had only been there once before themselves since moving to Indy. LOL. we werent buildin a team to match the colts....it just turned out that way our running game will control the clock which is a surprise this season.....our defense is allows the least passin TDs in the redzone than any other team in the league I would not say you have shutdown corners. NFL Blog: Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports Blogs Cornerback Jabari Greer(notes): In weeks 1 through 9 of the 2009 season, the Saints ranked third in Football Outsiders' DVOA rankings against the pass. In weeks 10 through 17, they plummeted to 20th. It's no coincidence that Greer, the former Buffalo cornerback signed by the Saints as a free agent in the offseason, missed weeks 10 through 16 with a groin injury after playing spectacularly in the season's first half. Some cornerbacks struggle with man coverage fater playing a lot of zone in prior seasons -- the Saints found this out the hard way when they signed ex-Colt Jason David(notes) after the 2006 season, a disastrous move for all involved. Greer has been just the opposite, ranking second behind only Darrelle Revis(notes) in FO's metrics for NFL cornerbacks (albeit in half a season). Greer will be targeted heavily, as he'll most likely draw the unenviable assignment of covering Reggie Wayne(notes) in the Super Bowl.
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01-26-2010, 10:16 AM	#8
bobad 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 247	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. The biggest threat in the game is Manning's accuracy. He is so accurate that our good secondary will be negated. All he needs is a 2 foot window. The only counter to Manning's accuracy is pressure. Nobody has hit him yet this year. Even the mighty Jets defense couldn't get much pressure on him. I don't know the solution, but you can bet GG knows the problem and is looking for one.
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01-26-2010, 10:25 AM	#9
Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. The biggest threat in the game is Manning's accuracy. He is so accurate that our good secondary will be negated. All he needs is a 2 foot window. You could easily be talking about Cool Brees too. That negates the Manning X factor to a degree. We'll be doing the same to them. Our cornerbacks and the Harper/Sharper combo is better than what they have. Advantage Saints, actually. The only counter to Manning's accuracy is pressure. Nobody has hit him yet this year. Even the mighty Jets defense couldn't get much pressure on him. That is what the Nation of Haters was saying prior to the VyQueens game. Ask Favre Bean how that worked out for him. The Saints did that WITHOUT Grant. Advantage Saints. The Dolts are going down. It is destiny. It is our time.
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01-26-2010, 12:58 PM	#10
JoanieNTX 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 825	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. LOL, ya'll know you can't argue with these people! Let the game begin!!!