COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D.

CantonLegend · 01-26-2010, 02:58 AM

there is one thing that the colts are better at than the vikings were.....in fact.....its the only thing the colts are good at.....passing the ball

peyton manning is great....but he is not a team

in 2 weeks we will be going up against the best DE tandum in the entire NFL....however, we are also going up against the smallest defensive line in the NFL...that doesnt bode well against our 2 stud guards and our 3 pro bowl offensive linemen

the colts are great...but they have yet to play a team that is as deadly on offense as us.....they played the jets and ravens....2 great defenses and 2 great running offense....but very little threat in the passin game

you remember who covered reggie wayne? well our DB is second in the league in allowing the least amount of catches per times targeted.....right behind that same DB that shut down reggie wayne

the cardinals fans thought we played dirty.....we didnt

the vikings fans thought we played dirty.....we didnt

i know for a fact that after the super bowl all the colts fans are going to be cryin about how dirty our defense is.....and im going to smile and agree

the colts cant and wont run the ball....peyton manning is the colts offense and their defense while underrated is still no match for our #1 ranked offense

everybody keeps talking about how our defense will match up against their offense.....why is that always the case? why doesnt anybody worry about our offense against their defense? despite dominating the league in nearly every offensive category, our offense is underrated

oh and that underrated defense of yours......you are preaching to the choir son......our defense feels the same way

colts average 26 ppg.....saints average 32 ppg

my prediction: 32-26

SAINTS

fwiw.....the vikings averaged 29 ppg.....scored 28 against us.....we scored 31

braggbro1 · 01-26-2010, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

there is one thing that the colts are better at than the vikings were.....in fact.....its the only thing the colts are good at.....passing the ball

peyton manning is great....but he is not a team

Damn. I was under the impression we were somewhat good. How the hell have we won 16 games and made it to the Super Bowl? Oh well. Our fluke season is your benefit.

savoyk · 01-26-2010, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

everybody keeps talking about how our defense will match up against their offense.....why is that always the case? why doesnt anybody worry about our offense against their defense? despite dominating the league in nearly every offensive category, our offense is underrated

Same question I keep asking!

strato · 01-26-2010, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by savoyk

Same question I keep asking!

http://blackandgold.com/saints/24240-keys-victory.html
i did..read it here

CantonLegend · 01-26-2010, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by strato

http://blackandgold.com/saints/24240-keys-victory.html
i did..read it here

lol no shameless self promotion....fall in line strato

After watching all the talking heads i could stand today ..no one is picking us ..except and this funny is Jay Marriotti..lol..i really dont care what any of these talking heads have to say, but love to shut them up.Everyone is saying that The Vikes gave us the game ..ok ..we'll take it. Let them talk all they want because they dont line up and play and none of them dont even watch with as much passion for our team as we do..I know the Colts are good ,and i respect Manning..but i see us giving him trouble..and here's why..for one i think our Corners are good enough to cover their recievers ..our linebackers have shown they can play the run ..blitz and cover pretty good..but the key on D..is we have a pass rush i think can get to Manning..I really think Williams will confuse Peyton and he can't move very well in the pocket so we might be able to knock him around just enough to rattle him..i know easier said than done..Believe me Williams is gonna come after him and will have some success..

Now on offense ..i think our o-line will protect Brees..i dont see the smaller undersized Colts D Line getting nearly as much pressure as Minny did..I really think we will be able to run the ball right at the Colts ..we dont need to get cute with the playcalling.. just pound the ball..no reverses .The play action will open up and Brees should be able to attack the seam and throw the ball downfield..The Colts were lucky to draw..Joe Flacco..and Mark Sanchez..Now they have to face the best Q.B they have seen all year..Our big recievers should be able to exploit the small Colts secondary. All in all i think we match up very well with this Colts team, and should be able to pull out a win ..and if we do we will get the respect that everyone here craves..BEAT Manning and we get it..

strato · 01-26-2010, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

lol no shameless self promotion....fall in line strato

No plugs intended..lol...

indy4192 · 01-26-2010, 11:18 AM

Wow, where to start;

Our small Defense did just fine in shutting down both the Ravens and Jets rushing game, both have much better O lines then the Saints and better running games.

Next:

The Cards offense is just as explosive as the Saints are and we played and beat them this year.

Next:

We proved in the Jets game we don't need Reggie to have a big game to win, so shut him down, we have a multitude of other options.

Next:

We run the ball when we need to and do so just fine. We are not a run first team.

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Final score: Colts 35 --- Saints 28

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

there is one thing that the colts are better at than the vikings were.....in fact.....its the only thing the colts are good at.....passing the ball

peyton manning is great....but he is not a team

in 2 weeks we will be going up against the best DE tandum in the entire NFL....however, we are also going up against the smallest defensive line in the NFL...that doesnt bode well against our 2 stud guards and our 3 pro bowl offensive linemen

the colts are great...but they have yet to play a team that is as deadly on offense as us.....they played the jets and ravens....2 great defenses and 2 great running offense....but very little threat in the passin game

you remember who covered reggie wayne? well our DB is second in the league in allowing the least amount of catches per times targeted.....right behind that same DB that shut down reggie wayne

the cardinals fans thought we played dirty.....we didnt

the vikings fans thought we played dirty.....we didnt

i know for a fact that after the super bowl all the colts fans are going to be cryin about how dirty our defense is.....and im going to smile and agree

the colts cant and wont run the ball....peyton manning is the colts offense and their defense while underrated is still no match for our #1 ranked offense

everybody keeps talking about how our defense will match up against their offense.....why is that always the case? why doesnt anybody worry about our offense against their defense? despite dominating the league in nearly every offensive category, our offense is underrated

oh and that underrated defense of yours......you are preaching to the choir son......our defense feels the same way

colts average 26 ppg.....saints average 32 ppg

my prediction: 32-26

SAINTS

fwiw.....the vikings averaged 29 ppg.....scored 28 against us.....we scored 31

Tobias-Reiper · 01-26-2010, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by indy4192

Wow, where to start;

Our small Defense did just fine in shutting down both the Ravens and Jets rushing game, both have much better O lines then the Saints and better running games.

The Ravens and the Jets are no threat to pass the ball. Sure you can stop the run with 8-9 in the box all game long. Do you really want the Colts to put 8-9 in the box against Drew Brees? I know I do.

Brees was sacked 20 times on 514 attempts
Sanchez was sacked 26 times on 364 attempts
Flacco was sacked 36 times on 499 attempts
O-line pass blocking advantage: clearly the Saints.

Saints ran the ball 468 times for 2106 yards and a 4.5 average
NY Jets ran the ball 607 times for 2756 yards and a 4.5 average
Ravens ran the ball 468 times for 2200 yards and a 4.7 average
Ok. The Ravens get 7 inches more per carry. Otherwise, neither Jets or Ravens seem to be better at running the ball than the Saints.

Next:

The Cards offense is just as explosive as the Saints are and we played and beat them this year.

No.
The Cardinals scored 375 points all season long.
The Saints scored 510 points all season long.

And the Saints beat the Cards as well. So what?

Next:

We proved in the Jets game we don't need Reggie to have a big game to win, so shut him down, we have a multitude of other options.

.. the Saints D doesn't play to shut anyone down. The Saints D plays to physically beat you up and make you fumble and give the ball back to the offense. . Ask the Vikings how they are feeling today.

Next:

We run the ball when we need to and do so just fine. We are not a run first team.

The Colts don't run the ball because they can't. With all the people who drop back to defend the pass, the Colts should be getting 5 yards a pop.

Next:

Final score: Colts 35 --- Saints 28

.. don't bet the house on that...

indy4192 · 01-26-2010, 12:32 PM

Here to help you out...

Lets see, Sanchez is a rookie and Flacco is in his second year, so both are going to struggle with sacks. Your O line may pass block better, but that doesn't mean they are an overall better line.

Next:

All 3 teams ran the ball well in the regular season. but when they played the Colts, how did they do? How did the top rusher in the NFL do against the Colts? Sorry but the Colts D right now is shutting the run down.

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True the Saints scored more overall points, but are you really saying that the Cards are not as explosive as the Saints? How many more weapons do the Saints offer that the Cards don't? You can't tell me the Saints have a better 1-2 punch at WR then the Cards? You can't say the Saints have a better QB then the Cards? Yes you beat them up in your home, we destroyed them in their own home. Which is more impressive?

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Well lets see, how many of those takeaways were from hard hits? The one fumble by AP was near the goal line and was due to a poor handoff, not any Saint player hitting him. I watche the game, the 1 Viking getting hit was Farve, I didn't see any other "bell ringers" on other Vikings?

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During the regular season your right, you might want to see how we did against two top defenses the two past weeks.

Next:

The major difference in the two teams is glaring. EXPERIENCE. The Saints will struggle with all that is involved in the next two weeks, the Colts have been there and done that. NOT 1 single team in that has played the Colts A team throughout the entire game has beaten the Colts this year, can you say the same for the Saints? You couldn't beat the lowly Bucs in your own home this season and got destroyed by the Cowboys.

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

The Ravens and the Jets are no threat to pass the ball. Sure you can stop the run with 8-9 in the box all game long. Do you really want the Colts to put 8-9 in the box against Drew Brees? I know I do.

Brees was sacked 20 times on 514 attempts
Sanchez was sacked 26 times on 364 attempts
Flacco was sacked 36 times on 499 attempts
O-line pass blocking advantage: clearly the Saints.

Saints ran the ball 468 times for 2106 yards and a 4.5 average
NY Jets ran the ball 607 times for 2756 yards and a 4.5 average
Ravens ran the ball 468 times for 2200 yards and a 4.7 average
Ok. The Ravens get 7 inches more per carry. Otherwise, neither Jets or Ravens seem to be better at running the ball than the Saints.

No.
The Cardinals scored 375 points all season long.
The Saints scored 510 points all season long.

And the Saints beat the Cards as well. So what?

.. the Saints D doesn't play to shut anyone down. The Saints D plays to physically beat you up and make you fumble and give the ball back to the offense. . Ask the Vikings how they are feeling today.

The Colts don't run the ball because they can't. With all the people who drop back to defend the pass, the Colts should be getting 5 yards a pop.

.. don't bet the house on that...

Tobias-Reiper · 01-26-2010, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by indy4192

Here to help you out...

Lets see, Sanchez is a rookie and Flacco is in his second year, so both are going to struggle with sacks. Your O line may pass block better, but that doesn't mean they are an overall better line.

. yet, you are so impressed with your team beating 2 teams with mediocre QBs who can't pass the ball. You can't have it both ways.

Next:

All 3 teams ran the ball well in the regular season. but when they played the Colts, how did they do? How did the top rusher in the NFL do against the Colts? Sorry but the Colts D right now is shutting the run down.

.. again, it is easy to shut the run down when you put 8-9 people in the box when, as you admit above, the QBs on the other teams are mediocre and do not present a challenge. And again, I surely hope the Colts do the same against the Saints.

Next:

True the Saints scored more overall points, but are you really saying that the Cards are not as explosive as the Saints? How many more weapons do the Saints offer that the Cards don't? You can't tell me the Saints have a better 1-2 punch at WR then the Cards? You can't say the Saints have a better QB then the Cards? Yes you beat them up in your home, we destroyed them in their own home. Which is more impressive?

Actually, I can say the Saints have a better QB than the Cardinals:
Brees threw for 34 TDs 11 INTs 70.6% CR 103.6 PR
Warner threw for 26 TDS 14 INTs 66.1 % CR 93.2 PR

As for "weapons", I guess you mean media darlings like Fitz? The Saints don't really have any media darlings..but as far as WR punch, the Saints don't have a 1-2 punch, they have a 1-2-3-4 combination in Colston, Henderson, Meachem, and Reggie (there's also Lance Moore, but he's been hurt). The Saints have 2 TEs who are better at catching and blocking in Shockey and Thomas than anything the Cards have at TE. At RB, the combination of Pierre, Reggie, and Bell is better than what the Cards have, both running the ball and catching the ball out of the backfield. And yes, you will notice I put Reggie in both RB and WR.

Now, don't you think that, when you compare one team to the other, when a team scores 135 more points than the other, thatmaybe, just maybe, the one team has better QB play and better weapons around that QB? Just sayin'

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Well lets see, how many of those takeaways were from hard hits? The one fumble by AP was near the goal line and was due to a poor handoff, not any Saint player hitting him. I watche the game, the 1 Viking getting hit was Farve, I didn't see any other "bell ringers" on other Vikings?

Yep. one fumble was a bad exchange.. the other fumbles, the ball was knocked out of the hands of the Vikings players. Don't discount the effects of the accumulation of hits. Not every punch is a knock out, but the accumulation of hit surely makes a difference.

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During the regular season your right, you might want to see how we did against two top defenses the two past weeks.

Well, the Colts scored 20 points on Baltimore. WOW! What a beat down!
The Colts did score 30 on the Jets.

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The major difference in the two teams is glaring. EXPERIENCE. The Saints will struggle with all that is involved in the next two weeks, the Colts have been there and done that. NOT 1 single team in that has played the Colts A team throughout the entire game has beaten the Colts this year, can you say the same for the Saints? You couldn't beat the lowly Bucs in your own home this season and got destroyed by the Cowboys.

Ok. So 3 years ago, about half the current Colts played in a Superbowl, and they stayed in this hotel 3 years ago, and practiced in this field 3 years ago, and that is EXPERIENCE. O...K...
I will tell you this:
All the media events are scheduled for both teams equally, so that isn't a distraction.
Unlike players who live in other states, these are the NEW ORLEANS Saints. They already live among "distractions".
Not to mention, the character of the players on the Saints roster. Of course, I wouldn't expct you to know about that either

I wouldn't call a 24-17 score getting destroyed, but I guess that's just an opinion. The Cowboys won, they were the better team that day, props to them.

As for the Saints A team, I am glad you asked. I don't expect you to know the Saints roster, because you don't follow the Saints. Here's a secret you may not know, but the Saints have not played with their A team since week 5, and are going to the Superbowl without their A team, not to mention they started their season without their starting LT, their best pure possession receiver, and one of the staring DTs.

But look.. you keep rationalizing the Superbowl win for the Colts, and keep on bringing all this stuff the Colts did in the past against other teams, keep telling yourself the Saints are no better than the Ravens or the Jets, and keep on reminding yourself how much more experienced the Colts are playing Superbowls.

I'm just going to wait and see what happens when the game is actually played.

01-26-2010, 02:58 AM	#1
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. there is one thing that the colts are better at than the vikings were.....in fact.....its the only thing the colts are good at.....passing the ball peyton manning is great....but he is not a team in 2 weeks we will be going up against the best DE tandum in the entire NFL....however, we are also going up against the smallest defensive line in the NFL...that doesnt bode well against our 2 stud guards and our 3 pro bowl offensive linemen the colts are great...but they have yet to play a team that is as deadly on offense as us.....they played the jets and ravens....2 great defenses and 2 great running offense....but very little threat in the passin game you remember who covered reggie wayne? well our DB is second in the league in allowing the least amount of catches per times targeted.....right behind that same DB that shut down reggie wayne the cardinals fans thought we played dirty.....we didnt the vikings fans thought we played dirty.....we didnt i know for a fact that after the super bowl all the colts fans are going to be cryin about how dirty our defense is.....and im going to smile and agree the colts cant and wont run the ball....peyton manning is the colts offense and their defense while underrated is still no match for our #1 ranked offense everybody keeps talking about how our defense will match up against their offense.....why is that always the case? why doesnt anybody worry about our offense against their defense? despite dominating the league in nearly every offensive category, our offense is underrated oh and that underrated defense of yours......you are preaching to the choir son......our defense feels the same way colts average 26 ppg.....saints average 32 ppg my prediction: 32-26 SAINTS fwiw.....the vikings averaged 29 ppg.....scored 28 against us.....we scored 31
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01-26-2010, 09:02 AM	#2
braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by CantonLegend there is one thing that the colts are better at than the vikings were.....in fact.....its the only thing the colts are good at.....passing the ball peyton manning is great....but he is not a team Damn. I was under the impression we were somewhat good. How the hell have we won 16 games and made it to the Super Bowl? Oh well. Our fluke season is your benefit.
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01-26-2010, 09:33 AM	#3
savoyk 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 144	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by CantonLegend everybody keeps talking about how our defense will match up against their offense.....why is that always the case? why doesnt anybody worry about our offense against their defense? despite dominating the league in nearly every offensive category, our offense is underrated Same question I keep asking!
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01-26-2010, 09:45 AM	#4
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by savoyk Same question I keep asking! http://blackandgold.com/saints/24240-keys-victory.html i did..read it here

01-26-2010, 09:49 AM	#5
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by strato http://blackandgold.com/saints/24240-keys-victory.html i did..read it here lol no shameless self promotion....fall in line strato After watching all the talking heads i could stand today ..no one is picking us ..except and this funny is Jay Marriotti..lol..i really dont care what any of these talking heads have to say, but love to shut them up.Everyone is saying that The Vikes gave us the game ..ok ..we'll take it. Let them talk all they want because they dont line up and play and none of them dont even watch with as much passion for our team as we do..I know the Colts are good ,and i respect Manning..but i see us giving him trouble..and here's why..for one i think our Corners are good enough to cover their recievers ..our linebackers have shown they can play the run ..blitz and cover pretty good..but the key on D..is we have a pass rush i think can get to Manning..I really think Williams will confuse Peyton and he can't move very well in the pocket so we might be able to knock him around just enough to rattle him..i know easier said than done..Believe me Williams is gonna come after him and will have some success.. Now on offense ..i think our o-line will protect Brees..i dont see the smaller undersized Colts D Line getting nearly as much pressure as Minny did..I really think we will be able to run the ball right at the Colts ..we dont need to get cute with the playcalling.. just pound the ball..no reverses .The play action will open up and Brees should be able to attack the seam and throw the ball downfield..The Colts were lucky to draw..Joe Flacco..and Mark Sanchez..Now they have to face the best Q.B they have seen all year..Our big recievers should be able to exploit the small Colts secondary. All in all i think we match up very well with this Colts team, and should be able to pull out a win ..and if we do we will get the respect that everyone here craves..BEAT Manning and we get it..

01-26-2010, 09:55 AM	#6
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by CantonLegend lol no shameless self promotion....fall in line strato No plugs intended..lol...

01-26-2010, 11:18 AM	#7
indy4192 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 122	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Wow, where to start; Our small Defense did just fine in shutting down both the Ravens and Jets rushing game, both have much better O lines then the Saints and better running games. Next: The Cards offense is just as explosive as the Saints are and we played and beat them this year. Next: We proved in the Jets game we don't need Reggie to have a big game to win, so shut him down, we have a multitude of other options. Next: We run the ball when we need to and do so just fine. We are not a run first team. Next: Final score: Colts 35 --- Saints 28 Originally Posted by CantonLegend there is one thing that the colts are better at than the vikings were.....in fact.....its the only thing the colts are good at.....passing the ball peyton manning is great....but he is not a team in 2 weeks we will be going up against the best DE tandum in the entire NFL....however, we are also going up against the smallest defensive line in the NFL...that doesnt bode well against our 2 stud guards and our 3 pro bowl offensive linemen the colts are great...but they have yet to play a team that is as deadly on offense as us.....they played the jets and ravens....2 great defenses and 2 great running offense....but very little threat in the passin game you remember who covered reggie wayne? well our DB is second in the league in allowing the least amount of catches per times targeted.....right behind that same DB that shut down reggie wayne the cardinals fans thought we played dirty.....we didnt the vikings fans thought we played dirty.....we didnt i know for a fact that after the super bowl all the colts fans are going to be cryin about how dirty our defense is.....and im going to smile and agree the colts cant and wont run the ball....peyton manning is the colts offense and their defense while underrated is still no match for our #1 ranked offense everybody keeps talking about how our defense will match up against their offense.....why is that always the case? why doesnt anybody worry about our offense against their defense? despite dominating the league in nearly every offensive category, our offense is underrated oh and that underrated defense of yours......you are preaching to the choir son......our defense feels the same way colts average 26 ppg.....saints average 32 ppg my prediction: 32-26 SAINTS fwiw.....the vikings averaged 29 ppg.....scored 28 against us.....we scored 31
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01-26-2010, 11:53 AM	#8
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by indy4192 Wow, where to start; Our small Defense did just fine in shutting down both the Ravens and Jets rushing game, both have much better O lines then the Saints and better running games. The Ravens and the Jets are no threat to pass the ball. Sure you can stop the run with 8-9 in the box all game long. Do you really want the Colts to put 8-9 in the box against Drew Brees? I know I do. Brees was sacked 20 times on 514 attempts Sanchez was sacked 26 times on 364 attempts Flacco was sacked 36 times on 499 attempts O-line pass blocking advantage: clearly the Saints. Saints ran the ball 468 times for 2106 yards and a 4.5 average NY Jets ran the ball 607 times for 2756 yards and a 4.5 average Ravens ran the ball 468 times for 2200 yards and a 4.7 average Ok. The Ravens get 7 inches more per carry. Otherwise, neither Jets or Ravens seem to be better at running the ball than the Saints. Next: The Cards offense is just as explosive as the Saints are and we played and beat them this year. No. The Cardinals scored 375 points all season long. The Saints scored 510 points all season long. And the Saints beat the Cards as well. So what? Next: We proved in the Jets game we don't need Reggie to have a big game to win, so shut him down, we have a multitude of other options. .. the Saints D doesn't play to shut anyone down. The Saints D plays to physically beat you up and make you fumble and give the ball back to the offense. . Ask the Vikings how they are feeling today. Next: We run the ball when we need to and do so just fine. We are not a run first team. The Colts don't run the ball because they can't. With all the people who drop back to defend the pass, the Colts should be getting 5 yards a pop. Next: Final score: Colts 35 --- Saints 28 .. don't bet the house on that...
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01-26-2010, 12:32 PM	#9
indy4192 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 122	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Here to help you out... Lets see, Sanchez is a rookie and Flacco is in his second year, so both are going to struggle with sacks. Your O line may pass block better, but that doesn't mean they are an overall better line. Next: All 3 teams ran the ball well in the regular season. but when they played the Colts, how did they do? How did the top rusher in the NFL do against the Colts? Sorry but the Colts D right now is shutting the run down. Next: True the Saints scored more overall points, but are you really saying that the Cards are not as explosive as the Saints? How many more weapons do the Saints offer that the Cards don't? You can't tell me the Saints have a better 1-2 punch at WR then the Cards? You can't say the Saints have a better QB then the Cards? Yes you beat them up in your home, we destroyed them in their own home. Which is more impressive? Next: Well lets see, how many of those takeaways were from hard hits? The one fumble by AP was near the goal line and was due to a poor handoff, not any Saint player hitting him. I watche the game, the 1 Viking getting hit was Farve, I didn't see any other "bell ringers" on other Vikings? Next: During the regular season your right, you might want to see how we did against two top defenses the two past weeks. Next: The major difference in the two teams is glaring. EXPERIENCE. The Saints will struggle with all that is involved in the next two weeks, the Colts have been there and done that. NOT 1 single team in that has played the Colts A team throughout the entire game has beaten the Colts this year, can you say the same for the Saints? You couldn't beat the lowly Bucs in your own home this season and got destroyed by the Cowboys. Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper The Ravens and the Jets are no threat to pass the ball. Sure you can stop the run with 8-9 in the box all game long. Do you really want the Colts to put 8-9 in the box against Drew Brees? I know I do. Brees was sacked 20 times on 514 attempts Sanchez was sacked 26 times on 364 attempts Flacco was sacked 36 times on 499 attempts O-line pass blocking advantage: clearly the Saints. Saints ran the ball 468 times for 2106 yards and a 4.5 average NY Jets ran the ball 607 times for 2756 yards and a 4.5 average Ravens ran the ball 468 times for 2200 yards and a 4.7 average Ok. The Ravens get 7 inches more per carry. Otherwise, neither Jets or Ravens seem to be better at running the ball than the Saints. No. The Cardinals scored 375 points all season long. The Saints scored 510 points all season long. And the Saints beat the Cards as well. So what? .. the Saints D doesn't play to shut anyone down. The Saints D plays to physically beat you up and make you fumble and give the ball back to the offense. . Ask the Vikings how they are feeling today. The Colts don't run the ball because they can't. With all the people who drop back to defend the pass, the Colts should be getting 5 yards a pop. .. don't bet the house on that...
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01-26-2010, 02:38 PM	#10
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by indy4192 Here to help you out... Lets see, Sanchez is a rookie and Flacco is in his second year, so both are going to struggle with sacks. Your O line may pass block better, but that doesn't mean they are an overall better line. . yet, you are so impressed with your team beating 2 teams with mediocre QBs who can't pass the ball. You can't have it both ways. Next: All 3 teams ran the ball well in the regular season. but when they played the Colts, how did they do? How did the top rusher in the NFL do against the Colts? Sorry but the Colts D right now is shutting the run down. .. again, it is easy to shut the run down when you put 8-9 people in the box when, as you admit above, the QBs on the other teams are mediocre and do not present a challenge. And again, I surely hope the Colts do the same against the Saints. Next: True the Saints scored more overall points, but are you really saying that the Cards are not as explosive as the Saints? How many more weapons do the Saints offer that the Cards don't? You can't tell me the Saints have a better 1-2 punch at WR then the Cards? You can't say the Saints have a better QB then the Cards? Yes you beat them up in your home, we destroyed them in their own home. Which is more impressive? Actually, I can say the Saints have a better QB than the Cardinals: Brees threw for 34 TDs 11 INTs 70.6% CR 103.6 PR Warner threw for 26 TDS 14 INTs 66.1 % CR 93.2 PR As for "weapons", I guess you mean media darlings like Fitz? The Saints don't really have any media darlings..but as far as WR punch, the Saints don't have a 1-2 punch, they have a 1-2-3-4 combination in Colston, Henderson, Meachem, and Reggie (there's also Lance Moore, but he's been hurt). The Saints have 2 TEs who are better at catching and blocking in Shockey and Thomas than anything the Cards have at TE. At RB, the combination of Pierre, Reggie, and Bell is better than what the Cards have, both running the ball and catching the ball out of the backfield. And yes, you will notice I put Reggie in both RB and WR. Now, don't you think that, when you compare one team to the other, when a team scores 135 more points than the other, thatmaybe, just maybe, the one team has better QB play and better weapons around that QB? Just sayin' Next: Well lets see, how many of those takeaways were from hard hits? The one fumble by AP was near the goal line and was due to a poor handoff, not any Saint player hitting him. I watche the game, the 1 Viking getting hit was Farve, I didn't see any other "bell ringers" on other Vikings? Yep. one fumble was a bad exchange.. the other fumbles, the ball was knocked out of the hands of the Vikings players. Don't discount the effects of the accumulation of hits. Not every punch is a knock out, but the accumulation of hit surely makes a difference. Next: During the regular season your right, you might want to see how we did against two top defenses the two past weeks. Well, the Colts scored 20 points on Baltimore. WOW! What a beat down! The Colts did score 30 on the Jets. Next: The major difference in the two teams is glaring. EXPERIENCE. The Saints will struggle with all that is involved in the next two weeks, the Colts have been there and done that. NOT 1 single team in that has played the Colts A team throughout the entire game has beaten the Colts this year, can you say the same for the Saints? You couldn't beat the lowly Bucs in your own home this season and got destroyed by the Cowboys. Ok. So 3 years ago, about half the current Colts played in a Superbowl, and they stayed in this hotel 3 years ago, and practiced in this field 3 years ago, and that is EXPERIENCE. O...K... I will tell you this: All the media events are scheduled for both teams equally, so that isn't a distraction. Unlike players who live in other states, these are the NEW ORLEANS Saints. They already live among "distractions". Not to mention, the character of the players on the Saints roster. Of course, I wouldn't expct you to know about that either I wouldn't call a 24-17 score getting destroyed, but I guess that's just an opinion. The Cowboys won, they were the better team that day, props to them. As for the Saints A team, I am glad you asked. I don't expect you to know the Saints roster, because you don't follow the Saints. Here's a secret you may not know, but the Saints have not played with their A team since week 5, and are going to the Superbowl without their A team, not to mention they started their season without their starting LT, their best pure possession receiver, and one of the staring DTs. But look.. you keep rationalizing the Superbowl win for the Colts, and keep on bringing all this stuff the Colts did in the past against other teams, keep telling yourself the Saints are no better than the Ravens or the Jets, and keep on reminding yourself how much more experienced the Colts are playing Superbowls. I'm just going to wait and see what happens when the game is actually played.
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