Let's keep it Real

Saintsfan4ever · 09-15-2003, 10:53 PM

1) and I will continue to bash Brooks if he continues to be consistently inconsistent. He did great last Sunday. Let`s hope it continues.

*** I was at the game Sunday and something some of you may not have seen on TV or heard on the radio was I saw Brooks going out on the feild and meeting the defense half way as the players headed for the sidelines to swap out after causing a 4th down situations for the Texans. He was giving hi-5`s and atta-boys to our defense. I really liked that. Things like that earn my respect.

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-15-2003, 11:06 PM

1) and I will continue to bash Brooks if he continues to be consistently inconsistent. He did great last Sunday. Let`s hope it continues

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You can bash all you want and maybe one day Aaron can live up to your expectations. Can you tell me exactly what he will have to do for you to be happy? Can ya do that for me? Can ya? Huh?

Saintsfan4ever · 09-16-2003, 12:18 AM

Well let me ask you this \"Was Brooks playing up to your expectations last week and down the stretch last season?\"

What can Brooks do to make me happy? .....simple, play consistent smart football. He can do it. We`ve seen it.
You and I both know that we have the potential to go to the next level with our offensive weapons and seemingly improved defense. I just don`t want Brooks to blunder this opportunity.

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-16-2003, 09:26 AM

Aaron Brooks does need to continue to improve and be more consistant -- There is no doubt about that -- However, most of the things that have been said are completely unjustified .

WhoDat brought up a couple of very good points that I would like to address. He says that the probabitlity of making the playoffs and not making them are about the same. So, he says that anyone\'s opinion is justified regarding the Saints making the playoffs. I\'m going to agree with WhoDat -- I do believe that the Saints have a realistic chance OF NOT going to the playoffs. I also believe that the Saints HAVE a realistic chance at going to the playoffs.

Not only do I beleive that the Saints have a realistic chance at going to the playoffs, I believe that with the way the NFL is today that most teams have a chance of going to the playoffs. The Bengals would probably be the one team that DOES NOT have a realistic chance at going to the playoffs and I\'m not even sure about that. It\'s just so hard to predict who will make the playoffs these days. But, one thing is for sure -- The Saints aren\'t the Bengals !!

What get\'s me is that members on here give the Saints very little RESPECT. I hear them give teams such as the Panthers respect and talking about them going to the playoffs and how great and wonderful they are and this is a team that has major problems on offense.

WhoDat makes another very good point and that would be when he talks about \"the spirit of the message\" made by members on here. The only spirit I\'ve gotten by a lot of members it the that Haslett sucks, Venturi sucks, Aaron Brooks sucks, the play calling sucks, the cornerbacks sucks, the defensive line sucks, the linebackers suck, etc, etc..

There is VERY LITTLE you will ever here these members say that is positive about the Saints. They say they have every right to say just about everything sucks about the Saints and they are right.

However, I find it odd that they aren\'t willing to give this team the benefit of the doubt. Now, it\'s true , they don\'t have to do anything. This doesn\'t make them any less of a fan than anyone. It justs makes them bashers that aren\'t willing to give this team and this season a chance. Of course, they will say they will be pulling for them every week and I\'m sure they will, but they will be ready to bash the first chance they get.

lumm0x · 09-16-2003, 04:51 PM

Everyone has sat in Billy\'s seat with a similar situation. I can\'t remember if it was Billy or B&B that brought up some negative comment about Pat Swilling, and since he is my favorite Saints of all-time I will go to no end to defend the guy. I truly believed every post I made to defend him and always will. No one can ever change my opinion of the guy, and the same goes for Walter Payton. I can\'t hear a single ngative thing about him without snapping.

My point is that once you\'ve made up your mind on a subject there is no amount of evidence or agruing that will change that opinion. Billy will never believe any negative comments about Brooks as adamantly as I won\'t of Swilling or Payton. And smmitty won\'t about his dog, and WhoDat about his fantasy team, and Pak about his midget.......oh that was Kid Rock, sorry....etc.

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-16-2003, 05:45 PM

LummOx --

I\'ll admit that the Brooks bashing really gets under my skin. Not because I believe he has proven he is great already, but because, if nothing else, he has earned the right to be the starting QB for the Saints. Whatever the reason is that fans don\'t like Brooks, for the life of me I can\'t understand why they want to cut the guy. I\'ve gone back and read some articles on great QB\'s from years past and many have experienced the same bashing from the fans, until they proved themselves. So, I guess this is normal.

All I have say to all the folks who says he CAN\'T do it -- I hope when he does prove himself that you will not cross over and become an Aaron Brook\'s fan. I know if I were him that I wouldn\'t want ya.

[Edited on 16/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

BlackandBlue · 08-26-2004, 05:25 PM

mmmmm, fun!

CheramieIII · 08-26-2004, 05:35 PM

Everyone has an opinion about how they believe the Saints are doing and how they think the Saints season will turn out. I for one think everyone is right some of the time and try to keep an open mind about every issue. Right now all we have about the upcoming season is speculation, from us, Haz, the players and definitely the media. We all love the Saints and I\'m sure even the people that are thought to be bashers, would love to see that just as much as everyone else.

Geaux Saints!!!

BlackandBlue · 08-26-2004, 05:37 PM

Thanks for pooping on my parade.

Euphoria · 08-26-2004, 06:02 PM

I stared reading thos thread and somehow I got totall lost in what its about... the one thing I got was we are all trying to figure out who\'s opinion is everyone\'s opinion. We are all entittled.

Debating Brooks as a QB is kind of stupid if you ask me. I mean this guy\'s stats ONLY improve not get worse or even stay the same for that matter. You can question 4 key fumbles last year and they were stupid but other than that he finishes in the top ten. What the hell... that isn\'t the problem with the team. When you have someone doing his job and finishing in the top ten you look else where.

09-15-2003, 10:53 PM	#31
Saintsfan4ever 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Moss Point, MS Posts: 612 Blog Entries: 1	Let's keep it Real 1) and I will continue to bash Brooks if he continues to be consistently inconsistent. He did great last Sunday. Let`s hope it continues. *** I was at the game Sunday and something some of you may not have seen on TV or heard on the radio was I saw Brooks going out on the feild and meeting the defense half way as the players headed for the sidelines to swap out after causing a 4th down situations for the Texans. He was giving hi-5`s and atta-boys to our defense. I really liked that. Things like that earn my respect.
	Saint4

09-15-2003, 11:06 PM	#32
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Let's keep it Real 1) and I will continue to bash Brooks if he continues to be consistently inconsistent. He did great last Sunday. Let`s hope it continues . You can bash all you want and maybe one day Aaron can live up to your expectations. Can you tell me exactly what he will have to do for you to be happy? Can ya do that for me? Can ya? Huh?
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209

09-16-2003, 12:18 AM	#33
Saintsfan4ever 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Moss Point, MS Posts: 612 Blog Entries: 1	Let's keep it Real Well let me ask you this \"Was Brooks playing up to your expectations last week and down the stretch last season?\" What can Brooks do to make me happy? .....simple, play consistent smart football. He can do it. We`ve seen it. You and I both know that we have the potential to go to the next level with our offensive weapons and seemingly improved defense. I just don`t want Brooks to blunder this opportunity.

09-16-2003, 09:26 AM	#34
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Let's keep it Real Aaron Brooks does need to continue to improve and be more consistant -- There is no doubt about that -- However, most of the things that have been said are completely unjustified . WhoDat brought up a couple of very good points that I would like to address. He says that the probabitlity of making the playoffs and not making them are about the same. So, he says that anyone\'s opinion is justified regarding the Saints making the playoffs. I\'m going to agree with WhoDat -- I do believe that the Saints have a realistic chance OF NOT going to the playoffs. I also believe that the Saints HAVE a realistic chance at going to the playoffs. Not only do I beleive that the Saints have a realistic chance at going to the playoffs, I believe that with the way the NFL is today that most teams have a chance of going to the playoffs. The Bengals would probably be the one team that DOES NOT have a realistic chance at going to the playoffs and I\'m not even sure about that. It\'s just so hard to predict who will make the playoffs these days. But, one thing is for sure -- The Saints aren\'t the Bengals !! What get\'s me is that members on here give the Saints very little RESPECT. I hear them give teams such as the Panthers respect and talking about them going to the playoffs and how great and wonderful they are and this is a team that has major problems on offense. WhoDat makes another very good point and that would be when he talks about \"the spirit of the message\" made by members on here. The only spirit I\'ve gotten by a lot of members it the that Haslett sucks, Venturi sucks, Aaron Brooks sucks, the play calling sucks, the cornerbacks sucks, the defensive line sucks, the linebackers suck, etc, etc.. There is VERY LITTLE you will ever here these members say that is positive about the Saints. They say they have every right to say just about everything sucks about the Saints and they are right. However, I find it odd that they aren\'t willing to give this team the benefit of the doubt. Now, it\'s true , they don\'t have to do anything. This doesn\'t make them any less of a fan than anyone. It justs makes them bashers that aren\'t willing to give this team and this season a chance. Of course, they will say they will be pulling for them every week and I\'m sure they will, but they will be ready to bash the first chance they get.
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09-16-2003, 04:51 PM	#35
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Let's keep it Real Everyone has sat in Billy\'s seat with a similar situation. I can\'t remember if it was Billy or B&B that brought up some negative comment about Pat Swilling, and since he is my favorite Saints of all-time I will go to no end to defend the guy. I truly believed every post I made to defend him and always will. No one can ever change my opinion of the guy, and the same goes for Walter Payton. I can\'t hear a single ngative thing about him without snapping. My point is that once you\'ve made up your mind on a subject there is no amount of evidence or agruing that will change that opinion. Billy will never believe any negative comments about Brooks as adamantly as I won\'t of Swilling or Payton. And smmitty won\'t about his dog, and WhoDat about his fantasy team, and Pak about his midget.......oh that was Kid Rock, sorry....etc.

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09-16-2003, 05:45 PM	#36
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Let's keep it Real LummOx -- I\'ll admit that the Brooks bashing really gets under my skin. Not because I believe he has proven he is great already, but because, if nothing else, he has earned the right to be the starting QB for the Saints. Whatever the reason is that fans don\'t like Brooks, for the life of me I can\'t understand why they want to cut the guy. I\'ve gone back and read some articles on great QB\'s from years past and many have experienced the same bashing from the fans, until they proved themselves. So, I guess this is normal. All I have say to all the folks who says he CAN\'T do it -- I hope when he does prove himself that you will not cross over and become an Aaron Brook\'s fan. I know if I were him that I wouldn\'t want ya. [Edited on 16/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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08-26-2004, 05:25 PM	#37
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Let's keep it Real mmmmm, fun!

08-26-2004, 05:35 PM	#38
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Let's keep it Real Everyone has an opinion about how they believe the Saints are doing and how they think the Saints season will turn out. I for one think everyone is right some of the time and try to keep an open mind about every issue. Right now all we have about the upcoming season is speculation, from us, Haz, the players and definitely the media. We all love the Saints and I\'m sure even the people that are thought to be bashers, would love to see that just as much as everyone else. Geaux Saints!!!

08-26-2004, 05:37 PM	#39
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Let's keep it Real Thanks for pooping on my parade.

08-26-2004, 06:02 PM	#40
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Let's keep it Real I stared reading thos thread and somehow I got totall lost in what its about... the one thing I got was we are all trying to figure out who\'s opinion is everyone\'s opinion. We are all entittled. Debating Brooks as a QB is kind of stupid if you ask me. I mean this guy\'s stats ONLY improve not get worse or even stay the same for that matter. You can question 4 key fumbles last year and they were stupid but other than that he finishes in the top ten. What the hell... that isn\'t the problem with the team. When you have someone doing his job and finishing in the top ten you look else where.
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