Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury

SaintPauly · 02-01-2010, 04:38 PM

Wow. I say that Indy's run defense is "suspect", and the roof falls in. Geez, awfully sensative on that subject I guess. Anyway, here's the deal, and let me say this for everyone in the cheap seats. THE REGULAR SEASON, DOESN'T MEAN CRAP IN THE PLAYOFFS. The Colts beat a number five seed, that wasn't supposed to get past the wildcard, to win the AFC, so there is a stat that isn't measured by the NFL. It's called HEART. If you love stats SOOO much, go check play off stats, and let's compare. By those stats, these two teams aren't that far apart.

And for the record, the Saints didn't get to this game, because they won a freaking coin toss. They won 13 games, before losing to the Cowboys. AND, we won two play off games to get here now. Blame it on luck, O.J., global warming, WHATEVER floats your damn boat! We are here, and we are NOT going to mail it in on Sunday, so you better eat your Peyton's, I mean Wheaties, and get ready to knock some heads.

You guys talk about how we think we are so great, and invincible, and the Colts have no chance? I talk about football. Matchups, plays, and abilities. At no point have you seen me running down the hall of B&G, in my Saints gear, singing WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS. I understand that this game can go either way. BUT, if you expect me to concede, that by your analogies, that you are right, and that WE don't have a chance, you should hit the door right now Indy fan. I don't concede a damn thing, and I NEVER WILL.

Now, with all that said, if you would like to discuss THE GAME SUNDAY, then I will be more than willing to do so. If you want to discuss the NFCCG, then I suggest you move your knowledge over to the Vikings board. They are still interested in talking about it, I am not.

Stlrfan · 02-01-2010, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by indy4192

I respect the Saints and have said they are the Best team in the NFC and deserve to be here and have a very good chance of winning the game. I believe that if the Colts play their type of game they should win.

Like I said, I see it being a very close game, but most of the Colts games this season were close and could have gone either way, so we'll see. Should be a good game. Back to the topic of Freeney, if it's true and he's out for the SB, I do see this hampering the Freeney/Mathis combo. Not trying to be disrespectful myself, but I'm not that crazy about the Colts D. In particular, the secondary. If it comes down to which D is going to win the game, I would put that in the favor of the Saints. If the Saints are watching tapes of the Indy/Miami game, they'll pound through the Colts D. That was one of the most lopsided unreal wins I think I've ever seen. While the Colts D has definitely improved, but it's not great. Freeney is a big part of that and without him, it may have more of a negative impact than you might think.

indy4192 · 02-01-2010, 04:42 PM

Well no they did get to the big dance by winning the coin flip, had the Vikings won the coin flip I am willing the bet they would have won. That is the problem with the NFL overtime system.

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

And for the record, the Saints didn't get to this game, because they won a freaking coin toss. .

indy4192 · 02-01-2010, 04:47 PM

The Saints don't run a wildcat like the Dolphins do. The Saints operate a more traditional offense, one that the Colts D has seen game in and game out this past season. I believe Freeney will play, at about 50-60% and on known passing downs. Having him not at 100% will hurt, but I believe we have the speed and other players to more then compensate.

Originally Posted by Stlrfan

Like I said, I see it being a very close game, but most of the Colts games this season were close and could have gone either way, so we'll see. Should be a good game. Back to the topic of Freeney, if it's true and he's out for the SB, I do see this hampering the Freeney/Mathis combo. Not trying to be disrespectful myself, but I'm not that crazy about the Colts D. In particular, the secondary. If it comes down to which D is going to win the game, I would put that in the favor of the Saints. If the Saints are watching tapes of the Indy/Miami game, they'll pound through the Colts D. That was one of the most lopsided unreal wins I think I've ever seen. While the Colts D has definitely improved, but it's not great. Freeney is a big part of that and without him, it may have more of a negative impact than you might think.

SaintPauly · 02-01-2010, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by indy4192

A) How did your mighty D cause the bad hand off between Brett and AP there at the end of the first half? There wasn't a Saint player around?

B) How did the Saints D cause the Vikings to have 12 men in the huddle on that last drive of the game, basically taking them out of field goal range?

C) When the Saints do anything close to what the Colts have done over this past decade, then YOU will have some cred, as of right now, you are just a "lucky" NFC that made it to their first superbowl. Gee even a blind squirl gets lucky and finds a nutt every so often....

Let me get this straight... You are determining how well your team will do Sunday, based on the Vikings game? Or is it by what we've done in the past decade? Do you not have enough faith in your OWN TEAM, to talk about the match ups on Sunday? Or are you a closet Vikings/Favre fan?

As far as your blind squirl, it's spelled squirrell by the way, the Cardinals, the Bucs, the Seahawks, ALL played their first superbowls this past decade. So there are alot of nuts falling I guess. Also, you guys get your first superbowl since what, the late 60s, and now all the sudden you guys are experts on other people's organizations, and team abilities? We know about our past, and we don't need a Colts fan to tell us about it.

We have a superbowl to play Sunday. Let's talk about that. Let's leave the past where it is.

JoanieNTX · 02-01-2010, 04:51 PM

I'm thinkin' Indy4192 is a Vikings fan in disguise as a Colts fan so he can come over and diss the Saint's fans.

He sure likes to take up for the purple people eaters, doesn't he?

I would like to comment on the Dallas game, though. I was there, too, and I do believe we totally underestimated Dallas. Could be because the last time we had played them, we went in and obliterated them in Dallas. Could be cause we were in a slump. If we had had 2 more minutes, we'd have had it in the bag, though.

SaintPauly · 02-01-2010, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by indy4192

Well no they did get to the big dance by winning the coin flip, had the Vikings won the coin flip I am willing the bet they would have won. That is the problem with the NFL overtime system.

Out of everything I said, THIS is the only thing you respond too. You are a coin toss from my "ignore" list.

Stlrfan · 02-01-2010, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by indy4192

The Saints don't run a wildcat like the Dolphins do. The Saints operate a more traditional offense, one that the Colts D has seen game in and game out this past season. I believe Freeney will play, at about 50-60% and on known passing downs. Having him not at 100% will hurt, but I believe we have the speed and other players to more then compensate.

Right, I realize they don't run the wildcat, but you don't need to do that to have an effective run game. The traditional offense that the Saints run may be true for their running game, but it's their passing game where I think is going to expose the weak secondary of the Colts. In the POs, the Colts played Flacco who had a typical sophomoric year. He definitely can't be compared to Brees. Mark Sanchez who for a rook didn't do bad either, but everyone knew he wasn't going to win the game for them. Their best running back got hurt, he was shredding the Colts D. I watched the Pats beating the Colts all game long and the Pats D was suspect then. Freeney is definitely a difference maker. His loss will be felt, that's just undeniable. Reggie Bush is definitely better than Addai and Brown, well, not there yet. It should be an aerial display of epic proportions, though, that's for sure.

Stlrfan · 02-01-2010, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by JoanieNTX

I'm thinkin' Indy4192 is a Vikings fan in disguise as a Colts fan so he can come over and diss the Saint's fans. He sure likes to take up for the purple people eaters, doesn't he?

I would like to comment on the Dallas game, though. I was there, too, and I do believe we totally underestimated Dallas. Could be because the last time we had played them, we went in and obliterated them in Dallas. Could be cause we were in a slump. If we had had 2 more minutes, we'd have had it in the bag, though.

Thank you for the welcome! Always had a soft spot in my heart for the Saints. I think that's pretty much the general feeling too. Seems most want to see them win. Let's hope some of those saints up above are feeling it too!

JoanieNTX · 02-01-2010, 05:04 PM

Stlrfan, it's nice to hear that others admire and respect the Saints. This has been a long time comin', and this state, the players, and the fans deserve it. The Saints have the most devoted fans I've ever seen or read about, and it stinks that some people wanna come over and rain on the parade. Your opinion is appreciated. A forum is a place where people should be able to come and express their views in an amiable way, no matter what they are, but it sure is great when they go about it in a nice way.

02-01-2010, 04:38 PM	#61
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury Wow. I say that Indy's run defense is "suspect", and the roof falls in. Geez, awfully sensative on that subject I guess. Anyway, here's the deal, and let me say this for everyone in the cheap seats. THE REGULAR SEASON, DOESN'T MEAN CRAP IN THE PLAYOFFS. The Colts beat a number five seed, that wasn't supposed to get past the wildcard, to win the AFC, so there is a stat that isn't measured by the NFL. It's called HEART. If you love stats SOOO much, go check play off stats, and let's compare. By those stats, these two teams aren't that far apart. And for the record, the Saints didn't get to this game, because they won a freaking coin toss. They won 13 games, before losing to the Cowboys. AND, we won two play off games to get here now. Blame it on luck, O.J., global warming, WHATEVER floats your damn boat! We are here, and we are NOT going to mail it in on Sunday, so you better eat your Peyton's, I mean Wheaties, and get ready to knock some heads. You guys talk about how we think we are so great, and invincible, and the Colts have no chance? I talk about football. Matchups, plays, and abilities. At no point have you seen me running down the hall of B&G, in my Saints gear, singing WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS. I understand that this game can go either way. BUT, if you expect me to concede, that by your analogies, that you are right, and that WE don't have a chance, you should hit the door right now Indy fan. I don't concede a damn thing, and I NEVER WILL. Now, with all that said, if you would like to discuss THE GAME SUNDAY, then I will be more than willing to do so. If you want to discuss the NFCCG, then I suggest you move your knowledge over to the Vikings board. They are still interested in talking about it, I am not.
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02-01-2010, 04:42 PM	#62
Stlrfan Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 39	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury Originally Posted by indy4192 I respect the Saints and have said they are the Best team in the NFC and deserve to be here and have a very good chance of winning the game. I believe that if the Colts play their type of game they should win. Like I said, I see it being a very close game, but most of the Colts games this season were close and could have gone either way, so we'll see. Should be a good game. Back to the topic of Freeney, if it's true and he's out for the SB, I do see this hampering the Freeney/Mathis combo. Not trying to be disrespectful myself, but I'm not that crazy about the Colts D. In particular, the secondary. If it comes down to which D is going to win the game, I would put that in the favor of the Saints. If the Saints are watching tapes of the Indy/Miami game, they'll pound through the Colts D. That was one of the most lopsided unreal wins I think I've ever seen. While the Colts D has definitely improved, but it's not great. Freeney is a big part of that and without him, it may have more of a negative impact than you might think.
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02-01-2010, 04:42 PM	#63
indy4192 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 122	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury Well no they did get to the big dance by winning the coin flip, had the Vikings won the coin flip I am willing the bet they would have won. That is the problem with the NFL overtime system. Originally Posted by saintpaul25 And for the record, the Saints didn't get to this game, because they won a freaking coin toss. .
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02-01-2010, 04:47 PM	#64
indy4192 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 122	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury The Saints don't run a wildcat like the Dolphins do. The Saints operate a more traditional offense, one that the Colts D has seen game in and game out this past season. I believe Freeney will play, at about 50-60% and on known passing downs. Having him not at 100% will hurt, but I believe we have the speed and other players to more then compensate. Originally Posted by Stlrfan Like I said, I see it being a very close game, but most of the Colts games this season were close and could have gone either way, so we'll see. Should be a good game. Back to the topic of Freeney, if it's true and he's out for the SB, I do see this hampering the Freeney/Mathis combo. Not trying to be disrespectful myself, but I'm not that crazy about the Colts D. In particular, the secondary. If it comes down to which D is going to win the game, I would put that in the favor of the Saints. If the Saints are watching tapes of the Indy/Miami game, they'll pound through the Colts D. That was one of the most lopsided unreal wins I think I've ever seen. While the Colts D has definitely improved, but it's not great. Freeney is a big part of that and without him, it may have more of a negative impact than you might think.
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02-01-2010, 04:48 PM	#65
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury Originally Posted by indy4192 A) How did your mighty D cause the bad hand off between Brett and AP there at the end of the first half? There wasn't a Saint player around? B) How did the Saints D cause the Vikings to have 12 men in the huddle on that last drive of the game, basically taking them out of field goal range? C) When the Saints do anything close to what the Colts have done over this past decade, then YOU will have some cred, as of right now, you are just a "lucky" NFC that made it to their first superbowl. Gee even a blind squirl gets lucky and finds a nutt every so often.... Let me get this straight... You are determining how well your team will do Sunday, based on the Vikings game? Or is it by what we've done in the past decade? Do you not have enough faith in your OWN TEAM, to talk about the match ups on Sunday? Or are you a closet Vikings/Favre fan? As far as your blind squirl, it's spelled squirrell by the way, the Cardinals, the Bucs, the Seahawks, ALL played their first superbowls this past decade. So there are alot of nuts falling I guess. Also, you guys get your first superbowl since what, the late 60s, and now all the sudden you guys are experts on other people's organizations, and team abilities? We know about our past, and we don't need a Colts fan to tell us about it. We have a superbowl to play Sunday. Let's talk about that. Let's leave the past where it is.
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02-01-2010, 04:51 PM	#66
JoanieNTX 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 825	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury I'm thinkin' Indy4192 is a Vikings fan in disguise as a Colts fan so he can come over and diss the Saint's fans. He sure likes to take up for the purple people eaters, doesn't he? I would like to comment on the Dallas game, though. I was there, too, and I do believe we totally underestimated Dallas. Could be because the last time we had played them, we went in and obliterated them in Dallas. Could be cause we were in a slump. If we had had 2 more minutes, we'd have had it in the bag, though.
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02-01-2010, 04:56 PM	#68
Stlrfan Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 39	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury Originally Posted by indy4192 The Saints don't run a wildcat like the Dolphins do. The Saints operate a more traditional offense, one that the Colts D has seen game in and game out this past season. I believe Freeney will play, at about 50-60% and on known passing downs. Having him not at 100% will hurt, but I believe we have the speed and other players to more then compensate. Right, I realize they don't run the wildcat, but you don't need to do that to have an effective run game. The traditional offense that the Saints run may be true for their running game, but it's their passing game where I think is going to expose the weak secondary of the Colts. In the POs, the Colts played Flacco who had a typical sophomoric year. He definitely can't be compared to Brees. Mark Sanchez who for a rook didn't do bad either, but everyone knew he wasn't going to win the game for them. Their best running back got hurt, he was shredding the Colts D. I watched the Pats beating the Colts all game long and the Pats D was suspect then. Freeney is definitely a difference maker. His loss will be felt, that's just undeniable. Reggie Bush is definitely better than Addai and Brown, well, not there yet. It should be an aerial display of epic proportions, though, that's for sure.
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02-01-2010, 04:58 PM	#69
Stlrfan Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 39	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury Originally Posted by JoanieNTX I'm thinkin' Indy4192 is a Vikings fan in disguise as a Colts fan so he can come over and diss the Saint's fans. He sure likes to take up for the purple people eaters, doesn't he? I would like to comment on the Dallas game, though. I was there, too, and I do believe we totally underestimated Dallas. Could be because the last time we had played them, we went in and obliterated them in Dallas. Could be cause we were in a slump. If we had had 2 more minutes, we'd have had it in the bag, though. Thank you for the welcome! Always had a soft spot in my heart for the Saints. I think that's pretty much the general feeling too. Seems most want to see them win. Let's hope some of those saints up above are feeling it too!
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02-01-2010, 05:04 PM	#70
JoanieNTX 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 825	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury Stlrfan, it's nice to hear that others admire and respect the Saints. This has been a long time comin', and this state, the players, and the fans deserve it. The Saints have the most devoted fans I've ever seen or read about, and it stinks that some people wanna come over and rain on the parade. Your opinion is appreciated. A forum is a place where people should be able to come and express their views in an amiable way, no matter what they are, but it sure is great when they go about it in a nice way.
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