Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury

Stlrfan · 02-01-2010, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by indy4192

No I believe the Saints were the best team in the NFC this past season and were leaps and bounds better then the Vikings. However if you look at the game, you can't say on that night the Saints were the better team. They got the breaks and saw the Vikings commint stupid penalities. The game should have never been close, it should not have come down to going overtime. In neither of the Colts playoff games were the Colts outplayed and "had to pull out a win". I would say right now the main reason the Colts are favored is that issue and this is the Saints first trip.

The game I watched between the Vikings and Saints was an outstanding game. The Vikings did have a lot of turnovers, but they weren't caused by the wind or some phantom turnover ghost. The Saints caused those turnovers, like any good team does. In my eyes, the team that wins at the end of the game is the better team. I didn't think the Bengals were better than the Steelers this year and statistically they were better, but the score indicated differently. They won, no matter how they won, they were the better team.

Oh Lord, you lost your credibility with all the "regular season" wins. You know what anyone outside of Indy says about that...woo. The Steelers have 2 Lombardis this decade dude, don't even go there with me. Like I said, win something this weekend and then we'll see. Until then, the Colts are just another AFC team in the SB.

indy4192 · 02-01-2010, 04:26 PM

A) How did your mighty D cause the bad hand off between Brett and AP there at the end of the first half? There wasn't a Saint player around?

B) How did the Saints D cause the Vikings to have 12 men in the huddle on that last drive of the game, basically taking them out of field goal range?

C) When the Saints do anything close to what the Colts have done over this past decade, then YOU will have some cred, as of right now, you are just a "lucky" NFC that made it to their first superbowl. Gee even a blind squirl gets lucky and finds a nutt every so often....

Originally Posted by Stlrfan

The game I watched between the Vikings and Saints was an outstanding game. The Vikings did have a lot of turnovers, but they weren't caused by the wind or some phantom turnover ghost. The Saints caused those turnovers, like any good team does. In my eyes, the team that wins at the end of the game is the better team. I didn't think the Bengals were better than the Steelers this year and statistically they were better, but the score indicated differently. They won, no matter how they won, they were the better team.

Oh Lord, you lost your credibility with all the "regular season" wins. You know what anyone outside of Indy says about that...woo. The Steelers have 2 Lombardis this decade dude, don't even go there with me. Like I said, win something this weekend and then we'll see. Until then, the Colts are just another AFC team in the SB.

Stlrfan · 02-01-2010, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by indy4192

A) How did your mighty D cause the bad hand off between Brett and AP there at the end of the first half? There wasn't a Saint player around?

B) How did the Saints D cause the Vikings to have 12 men in the huddle on that last drive of the game, basically taking them out of field goal range?

C) When the Saints do anything close to what the Colts have done over this past decade, then YOU will have some cred, as of right now, you are just a "lucky" NFC that made it to their first superbowl. Gee even a blind squirl gets lucky and finds a nutt every so often....

LOL, again you didn't see who posted to you. It's me, the Steelers fan that said that.

A) I'm an outsider posting an outsider's view of the game I watched. The 12 men on the field has nothing to do with the turnovers the Saints caused the Vikings to have.
B) You're comparing the Colts to the Saints? Saints are an up and coming team my friend. They have a lot of talent on both sides of the ball. I feel for Indy when PM retires cause that will be the Colts demise.
C) I will take the Lombardi's any day over regular season wins. You can happily have that title and live proudly with it. I will happily have the Lombardi's.

I might add also, as an outsider, you are greatly overlooking your opponent, something I'm sure your team is not doing. The Saints are a better balanced team. I see this more of a close game and I'm actually seeing the Saints coming out on top. And if that happens, the better team will have won.

indy4192 · 02-01-2010, 04:37 PM

I respect the Saints and have said they are the Best team in the NFC and deserve to be here and have a very good chance of winning the game. I believe that if the Colts play their type of game they should win.

Originally Posted by Stlrfan

I might add also, as an outsider, you are greatly overlooking your opponent, something I'm sure your team is not doing. The Saints are a better balanced team. I see this more of a close game and I'm actually seeing the Saints coming out on top. And if that happens, the better team will have won.

Stlrfan · 02-01-2010, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by indy4192

I respect the Saints and have said they are the Best team in the NFC and deserve to be here and have a very good chance of winning the game. I believe that if the Colts play their type of game they should win.

Like I said, I see it being a very close game, but most of the Colts games this season were close and could have gone either way, so we'll see. Should be a good game. Back to the topic of Freeney, if it's true and he's out for the SB, I do see this hampering the Freeney/Mathis combo. Not trying to be disrespectful myself, but I'm not that crazy about the Colts D. In particular, the secondary. If it comes down to which D is going to win the game, I would put that in the favor of the Saints. If the Saints are watching tapes of the Indy/Miami game, they'll pound through the Colts D. That was one of the most lopsided unreal wins I think I've ever seen. While the Colts D has definitely improved, but it's not great. Freeney is a big part of that and without him, it may have more of a negative impact than you might think.

indy4192 · 02-01-2010, 04:47 PM

The Saints don't run a wildcat like the Dolphins do. The Saints operate a more traditional offense, one that the Colts D has seen game in and game out this past season. I believe Freeney will play, at about 50-60% and on known passing downs. Having him not at 100% will hurt, but I believe we have the speed and other players to more then compensate.

Originally Posted by Stlrfan

Like I said, I see it being a very close game, but most of the Colts games this season were close and could have gone either way, so we'll see. Should be a good game. Back to the topic of Freeney, if it's true and he's out for the SB, I do see this hampering the Freeney/Mathis combo. Not trying to be disrespectful myself, but I'm not that crazy about the Colts D. In particular, the secondary. If it comes down to which D is going to win the game, I would put that in the favor of the Saints. If the Saints are watching tapes of the Indy/Miami game, they'll pound through the Colts D. That was one of the most lopsided unreal wins I think I've ever seen. While the Colts D has definitely improved, but it's not great. Freeney is a big part of that and without him, it may have more of a negative impact than you might think.

Stlrfan · 02-01-2010, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by indy4192

The Saints don't run a wildcat like the Dolphins do. The Saints operate a more traditional offense, one that the Colts D has seen game in and game out this past season. I believe Freeney will play, at about 50-60% and on known passing downs. Having him not at 100% will hurt, but I believe we have the speed and other players to more then compensate.

Right, I realize they don't run the wildcat, but you don't need to do that to have an effective run game. The traditional offense that the Saints run may be true for their running game, but it's their passing game where I think is going to expose the weak secondary of the Colts. In the POs, the Colts played Flacco who had a typical sophomoric year. He definitely can't be compared to Brees. Mark Sanchez who for a rook didn't do bad either, but everyone knew he wasn't going to win the game for them. Their best running back got hurt, he was shredding the Colts D. I watched the Pats beating the Colts all game long and the Pats D was suspect then. Freeney is definitely a difference maker. His loss will be felt, that's just undeniable. Reggie Bush is definitely better than Addai and Brown, well, not there yet. It should be an aerial display of epic proportions, though, that's for sure.

SaintPauly · 02-01-2010, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by indy4192

A) How did your mighty D cause the bad hand off between Brett and AP there at the end of the first half? There wasn't a Saint player around?

B) How did the Saints D cause the Vikings to have 12 men in the huddle on that last drive of the game, basically taking them out of field goal range?

C) When the Saints do anything close to what the Colts have done over this past decade, then YOU will have some cred, as of right now, you are just a "lucky" NFC that made it to their first superbowl. Gee even a blind squirl gets lucky and finds a nutt every so often....

Let me get this straight... You are determining how well your team will do Sunday, based on the Vikings game? Or is it by what we've done in the past decade? Do you not have enough faith in your OWN TEAM, to talk about the match ups on Sunday? Or are you a closet Vikings/Favre fan?

As far as your blind squirl, it's spelled squirrell by the way, the Cardinals, the Bucs, the Seahawks, ALL played their first superbowls this past decade. So there are alot of nuts falling I guess. Also, you guys get your first superbowl since what, the late 60s, and now all the sudden you guys are experts on other people's organizations, and team abilities? We know about our past, and we don't need a Colts fan to tell us about it.

We have a superbowl to play Sunday. Let's talk about that. Let's leave the past where it is.

02-01-2010, 04:16 PM	#1
Stlrfan Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 39	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury Originally Posted by indy4192 No I believe the Saints were the best team in the NFC this past season and were leaps and bounds better then the Vikings. However if you look at the game, you can't say on that night the Saints were the better team. They got the breaks and saw the Vikings commint stupid penalities. The game should have never been close, it should not have come down to going overtime. In neither of the Colts playoff games were the Colts outplayed and "had to pull out a win". I would say right now the main reason the Colts are favored is that issue and this is the Saints first trip. The game I watched between the Vikings and Saints was an outstanding game. The Vikings did have a lot of turnovers, but they weren't caused by the wind or some phantom turnover ghost. The Saints caused those turnovers, like any good team does. In my eyes, the team that wins at the end of the game is the better team. I didn't think the Bengals were better than the Steelers this year and statistically they were better, but the score indicated differently. They won, no matter how they won, they were the better team. Oh Lord, you lost your credibility with all the "regular season" wins. You know what anyone outside of Indy says about that...woo. The Steelers have 2 Lombardis this decade dude, don't even go there with me. Like I said, win something this weekend and then we'll see. Until then, the Colts are just another AFC team in the SB.
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02-01-2010, 04:26 PM	#2
indy4192 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 122	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury A) How did your mighty D cause the bad hand off between Brett and AP there at the end of the first half? There wasn't a Saint player around? B) How did the Saints D cause the Vikings to have 12 men in the huddle on that last drive of the game, basically taking them out of field goal range? C) When the Saints do anything close to what the Colts have done over this past decade, then YOU will have some cred, as of right now, you are just a "lucky" NFC that made it to their first superbowl. Gee even a blind squirl gets lucky and finds a nutt every so often.... Originally Posted by Stlrfan The game I watched between the Vikings and Saints was an outstanding game. The Vikings did have a lot of turnovers, but they weren't caused by the wind or some phantom turnover ghost. The Saints caused those turnovers, like any good team does. In my eyes, the team that wins at the end of the game is the better team. I didn't think the Bengals were better than the Steelers this year and statistically they were better, but the score indicated differently. They won, no matter how they won, they were the better team. Oh Lord, you lost your credibility with all the "regular season" wins. You know what anyone outside of Indy says about that...woo. The Steelers have 2 Lombardis this decade dude, don't even go there with me. Like I said, win something this weekend and then we'll see. Until then, the Colts are just another AFC team in the SB.
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02-01-2010, 04:34 PM	#3
Stlrfan Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 39	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury Originally Posted by indy4192 A) How did your mighty D cause the bad hand off between Brett and AP there at the end of the first half? There wasn't a Saint player around? B) How did the Saints D cause the Vikings to have 12 men in the huddle on that last drive of the game, basically taking them out of field goal range? C) When the Saints do anything close to what the Colts have done over this past decade, then YOU will have some cred, as of right now, you are just a "lucky" NFC that made it to their first superbowl. Gee even a blind squirl gets lucky and finds a nutt every so often.... LOL, again you didn't see who posted to you. It's me, the Steelers fan that said that. A) I'm an outsider posting an outsider's view of the game I watched. The 12 men on the field has nothing to do with the turnovers the Saints caused the Vikings to have. B) You're comparing the Colts to the Saints? Saints are an up and coming team my friend. They have a lot of talent on both sides of the ball. I feel for Indy when PM retires cause that will be the Colts demise. C) I will take the Lombardi's any day over regular season wins. You can happily have that title and live proudly with it. I will happily have the Lombardi's. I might add also, as an outsider, you are greatly overlooking your opponent, something I'm sure your team is not doing. The Saints are a better balanced team. I see this more of a close game and I'm actually seeing the Saints coming out on top. And if that happens, the better team will have won.
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02-01-2010, 04:37 PM	#4
indy4192 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 122	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury I respect the Saints and have said they are the Best team in the NFC and deserve to be here and have a very good chance of winning the game. I believe that if the Colts play their type of game they should win. Originally Posted by Stlrfan I might add also, as an outsider, you are greatly overlooking your opponent, something I'm sure your team is not doing. The Saints are a better balanced team. I see this more of a close game and I'm actually seeing the Saints coming out on top. And if that happens, the better team will have won.
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02-01-2010, 04:42 PM	#5
Stlrfan Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 39	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury Originally Posted by indy4192 I respect the Saints and have said they are the Best team in the NFC and deserve to be here and have a very good chance of winning the game. I believe that if the Colts play their type of game they should win. Like I said, I see it being a very close game, but most of the Colts games this season were close and could have gone either way, so we'll see. Should be a good game. Back to the topic of Freeney, if it's true and he's out for the SB, I do see this hampering the Freeney/Mathis combo. Not trying to be disrespectful myself, but I'm not that crazy about the Colts D. In particular, the secondary. If it comes down to which D is going to win the game, I would put that in the favor of the Saints. If the Saints are watching tapes of the Indy/Miami game, they'll pound through the Colts D. That was one of the most lopsided unreal wins I think I've ever seen. While the Colts D has definitely improved, but it's not great. Freeney is a big part of that and without him, it may have more of a negative impact than you might think.
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02-01-2010, 04:47 PM	#6
indy4192 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 122	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury The Saints don't run a wildcat like the Dolphins do. The Saints operate a more traditional offense, one that the Colts D has seen game in and game out this past season. I believe Freeney will play, at about 50-60% and on known passing downs. Having him not at 100% will hurt, but I believe we have the speed and other players to more then compensate. Originally Posted by Stlrfan Like I said, I see it being a very close game, but most of the Colts games this season were close and could have gone either way, so we'll see. Should be a good game. Back to the topic of Freeney, if it's true and he's out for the SB, I do see this hampering the Freeney/Mathis combo. Not trying to be disrespectful myself, but I'm not that crazy about the Colts D. In particular, the secondary. If it comes down to which D is going to win the game, I would put that in the favor of the Saints. If the Saints are watching tapes of the Indy/Miami game, they'll pound through the Colts D. That was one of the most lopsided unreal wins I think I've ever seen. While the Colts D has definitely improved, but it's not great. Freeney is a big part of that and without him, it may have more of a negative impact than you might think.
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02-01-2010, 04:56 PM	#7
Stlrfan Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 39	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury Originally Posted by indy4192 The Saints don't run a wildcat like the Dolphins do. The Saints operate a more traditional offense, one that the Colts D has seen game in and game out this past season. I believe Freeney will play, at about 50-60% and on known passing downs. Having him not at 100% will hurt, but I believe we have the speed and other players to more then compensate. Right, I realize they don't run the wildcat, but you don't need to do that to have an effective run game. The traditional offense that the Saints run may be true for their running game, but it's their passing game where I think is going to expose the weak secondary of the Colts. In the POs, the Colts played Flacco who had a typical sophomoric year. He definitely can't be compared to Brees. Mark Sanchez who for a rook didn't do bad either, but everyone knew he wasn't going to win the game for them. Their best running back got hurt, he was shredding the Colts D. I watched the Pats beating the Colts all game long and the Pats D was suspect then. Freeney is definitely a difference maker. His loss will be felt, that's just undeniable. Reggie Bush is definitely better than Addai and Brown, well, not there yet. It should be an aerial display of epic proportions, though, that's for sure.
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02-01-2010, 04:48 PM	#8
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury Originally Posted by indy4192 A) How did your mighty D cause the bad hand off between Brett and AP there at the end of the first half? There wasn't a Saint player around? B) How did the Saints D cause the Vikings to have 12 men in the huddle on that last drive of the game, basically taking them out of field goal range? C) When the Saints do anything close to what the Colts have done over this past decade, then YOU will have some cred, as of right now, you are just a "lucky" NFC that made it to their first superbowl. Gee even a blind squirl gets lucky and finds a nutt every so often.... Let me get this straight... You are determining how well your team will do Sunday, based on the Vikings game? Or is it by what we've done in the past decade? Do you not have enough faith in your OWN TEAM, to talk about the match ups on Sunday? Or are you a closet Vikings/Favre fan? As far as your blind squirl, it's spelled squirrell by the way, the Cardinals, the Bucs, the Seahawks, ALL played their first superbowls this past decade. So there are alot of nuts falling I guess. Also, you guys get your first superbowl since what, the late 60s, and now all the sudden you guys are experts on other people's organizations, and team abilities? We know about our past, and we don't need a Colts fan to tell us about it. We have a superbowl to play Sunday. Let's talk about that. Let's leave the past where it is.
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