The Brown/Bushrod debate

Choupique · 02-10-2010, 10:09 AM

I think the Saints are actually in pretty good shape... personnel wise.

CantonLegend · 02-10-2010, 12:18 PM

bushrod is terrible

with brown it would allow us to leave that side of the line almost completely unprotected. he could do it all by himself. bushrod needs help on nearly every single play and that takes away from the packages, the protection schemes and the routes that we can actually run

a TE and RB are always delayed on their routes with bushrod in because they need to chip block first before they go out on their routes

jermon bushrod isnt the run blocker and clearly isnt the pass blocker that brown is.

he hasnt held his own, he hasnt been above average and he certainly isnt underrated

its hard to imagine why anybody thinks he had a good season other than the fact that we won the super bowl. however, this season is not indicative of how bushrod played.

mikesaintfan · 02-10-2010, 12:22 PM

if Brown was not hurt we could have had 4 out of 5 probowlers on the o-line

CantonLegend · 02-10-2010, 12:23 PM

oh yea.....bushrod will not be back......we can leave that position empty on the field and it will still block better than bushrod

TheOak · 02-10-2010, 12:28 PM

I will throw this into the debate.

Brown? Bushrod? Or if no uncapped year Julius Peppers as a trade?

He is clearly looking for a new home.

CantonLegend · 02-10-2010, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I will throw this into the debate.

Brown? Bushrod? Or if no uncapped year Julius Peppers as a trade?

He is clearly looking for a new home.

brown.

peppers will not come to new orleans because we cant afford him. besides, he wouldnt want to play weakside DE anyway. remember that will smith had a better season than him

UK_WhoDat · 02-10-2010, 01:09 PM

Difficult. Monster Ware smacked Bushrod but Bushrod is learning fast. Possibly with help, Bushrod did very well in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by hagan714

see I say trade stinch.

Not so fast. He held Mathis to nada, zit, nothing

Rugby Saint II · 02-10-2010, 01:34 PM

Brown is much better than Bushrod. If Bushrod can go somewhere else and get paid better then good luck. However, after saying that I have to say that if Brown had been starting I wonder if we would still be the World Champions? How many false starts or holding calls by Brown have stalled drives for us in the past? LT in my opinion could still be upgraded. Let's shop him around and see what we can get for Brown.

CantonLegend · 02-10-2010, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Brown is much better than Bushrod. If Bushrod can go somewhere else and get paid better then good luck. However, after saying that I have to say that if Brown had been starting I wonder if we would still be the World Champions? How many false starts or holding calls by Brown have stalled drives for us in the past? LT in my opinion could still be upgraded. Let's shop him around and see what we can get for Brown.

then again.....how many more points could we have scored because drew wasnt getting sacked? how many fewer times would drew have gotten hit?

saintfan · 02-10-2010, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think Bushrod is a below average LT with some upside. I think he'd start on about 4 or 5 teams in this league.

Jammal Brown is three times the LT Bushrod is, and I'm being generous.

+1

02-10-2010, 10:09 AM	#11
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02-10-2010, 12:18 PM	#12
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The Brown/Bushrod debate bushrod is terrible with brown it would allow us to leave that side of the line almost completely unprotected. he could do it all by himself. bushrod needs help on nearly every single play and that takes away from the packages, the protection schemes and the routes that we can actually run a TE and RB are always delayed on their routes with bushrod in because they need to chip block first before they go out on their routes jermon bushrod isnt the run blocker and clearly isnt the pass blocker that brown is. he hasnt held his own, he hasnt been above average and he certainly isnt underrated its hard to imagine why anybody thinks he had a good season other than the fact that we won the super bowl. however, this season is not indicative of how bushrod played.
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02-10-2010, 12:22 PM	#13
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Re: The Brown/Bushrod debate if Brown was not hurt we could have had 4 out of 5 probowlers on the o-line

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CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The Brown/Bushrod debate oh yea.....bushrod will not be back......we can leave that position empty on the field and it will still block better than bushrod

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02-10-2010, 12:31 PM	#16
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The Brown/Bushrod debate Originally Posted by x626xBlack I will throw this into the debate. Brown? Bushrod? Or if no uncapped year Julius Peppers as a trade? He is clearly looking for a new home. brown. peppers will not come to new orleans because we cant afford him. besides, he wouldnt want to play weakside DE anyway. remember that will smith had a better season than him

02-10-2010, 01:09 PM	#17
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,865	Re: The Brown/Bushrod debate Difficult. Monster Ware smacked Bushrod but Bushrod is learning fast. Possibly with help, Bushrod did very well in the playoffs. Originally Posted by hagan714 see I say trade stinch. Not so fast. He held Mathis to nada, zit, nothing

02-10-2010, 01:34 PM	#18
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: The Brown/Bushrod debate Brown is much better than Bushrod. If Bushrod can go somewhere else and get paid better then good luck. However, after saying that I have to say that if Brown had been starting I wonder if we would still be the World Champions? How many false starts or holding calls by Brown have stalled drives for us in the past? LT in my opinion could still be upgraded. Let's shop him around and see what we can get for Brown.

02-10-2010, 01:38 PM	#19
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The Brown/Bushrod debate Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Brown is much better than Bushrod. If Bushrod can go somewhere else and get paid better then good luck. However, after saying that I have to say that if Brown had been starting I wonder if we would still be the World Champions? How many false starts or holding calls by Brown have stalled drives for us in the past? LT in my opinion could still be upgraded. Let's shop him around and see what we can get for Brown. then again.....how many more points could we have scored because drew wasnt getting sacked? how many fewer times would drew have gotten hit?

02-10-2010, 02:47 PM	#20
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The Brown/Bushrod debate Originally Posted by Danno I think Bushrod is a below average LT with some upside. I think he'd start on about 4 or 5 teams in this league. Jammal Brown is three times the LT Bushrod is, and I'm being generous. +1