New OT Rule

Danno · 02-28-2010, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

But why?

Because its simple and exciting.

gumbeau · 02-28-2010, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Because its simple and exciting.

It doesn't get simpler or more exciting than SUDDEN DEATH.

Both sides getting the ball is just crybaby college BS.

The college system is stupid. It is as bad as penalty kicks in soccer.

I'd rather overtime be mud wrestling between opposing cheer squads than both sides get a turn.

Danno · 02-28-2010, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by gumbeau

It doesn't get simpler or more exciting than SUDDEN DEATH.

To me it does.

21Hilliard · 02-28-2010, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by gumbeau

I'd rather overtime be mud wrestling between opposing cheer squads than both sides get a turn.

Can we get that commercial free in overtime?

skymike · 03-01-2010, 04:37 PM

I agree with Toby that a tie is not the end of the world in regular season. We had ties in football for 60 years, and everybody did just fine. I agree with Gumbeau that the college system is stupid.

If you dont want to lose the game to a coin toss, then win the damn game in regulation. Or come out and play defense.

Does anybody remember we lost the coin toss to the Redskins in OT, then got a turnover & won the game?

ScottF touched on the final answer, though. If they extend OT, then the NFL can sell more commercials. Guess what they're gonna do????

The last thing I want to see is more change. The worst thing the NFL can do is **** with a good thing.

If you must have change, here's one. Eliminate replay, and call the game on the field, like we did for 90 years. Replay is just a 2nd chance to blow the call. My kids were bored to death by the last game they saw. No wonder they watch wrestling. Just play ball.

CheramieIII · 02-28-2010, 08:05 AM

I bet this was started by the Vikings owner after we beat Favre down. They were talking about it during the overtime if I remember correctly. BOOOOOOOOhooooooooooo YOU LOST GET OVER IT! I don't care one way or another but lets get it right this time. Rule changes mean you never got it right the first time. You need to think outside the box and 30 to 50 years down the road not just for today.

B005TED · 02-28-2010, 10:18 AM

"The NFL has had 325 overtime games since the rule was adopted in 1974.

The results:
Both teams have had possession 235 times (72.3%).
The team that has won the toss has won 169 times (52.0%).
The team that has lost the toss has won 141 times (43.4%).
223 games were decided by a field goal (68.6%).
86 games were decided by a TD (26.5%).
One game was decided by a safety (0.3%).
There have been 15 ties (4.6%)."

Exact quote from USA Today, 52%-43%. Seems close enough to me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Leave it as it is. The team that loses the coin toss just needs to step up their defense. This game does have TWO sides of the ball.

exile · 02-28-2010, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by B005TED

Exact quote from USA Today, 52%-43%. Seems close enough to me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Leave it as it is. The team that loses the coin toss just needs to step up their defense. This game does have TWO sides of the ball.

I have to agree with this. There is no perfect system, especially the college system.

Another idea I have heard is just letting regular season games end in a tie at the end of the 4th Q. Then let OT be used for only playoff games. This is the kind of idea that just yells LEAVE THE CURRENT SYSTEM IN PLACE.

poydras · 02-28-2010, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by B005TED

"The NFL has had 325 overtime games since the rule was adopted in 1974.

The results:
Both teams have had possession 235 times (72.3%).
The team that has won the toss has won 169 times (52.0%).
The team that has lost the toss has won 141 times (43.4%).
223 games were decided by a field goal (68.6%).
86 games were decided by a TD (26.5%).
One game was decided by a safety (0.3%).
There have been 15 ties (4.6%)."

Exact quote from USA Today, 52%-43%. Seems close enough to me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Leave it as it is. The team that loses the coin toss just needs to step up their defense. This game does have TWO sides of the ball.

The problem with all those numbers is that they go back to the beggining of the overetime rule, when the rules were different and it was more difficult to score. Also, they kicked off from the 40 back then which usually meant that drives started at the 20. Now, drives typically start at about the 30 and the rules favor the offense. Because of that, the percentage now heavily favors the first team to touch the ball. The coin toss is still 50/50 though. I don't see how lengthening the game will make it better.

subguy · 03-01-2010, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by B005TED

"The NFL has had 325 overtime games since the rule was adopted in 1974.

The results:
Both teams have had possession 235 times (72.3%).
The team that has won the toss has won 169 times (52.0%).
The team that has lost the toss has won 141 times (43.4%).
223 games were decided by a field goal (68.6%).
86 games were decided by a TD (26.5%).
One game was decided by a safety (0.3%).
There have been 15 ties (4.6%)."

Exact quote from USA Today, 52%-43%. Seems close enough to me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Leave it as it is. The team that loses the coin toss just needs to step up their defense. This game does have TWO sides of the ball.

I was all for switching until I saw this post...I never realized it was that close. It seemes like first team kicks a field goal a lot more than that.

02-28-2010, 08:21 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: New OT Rule Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper But why? Because its simple and exciting.

02-28-2010, 08:56 AM	#2
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 519	Re: New OT Rule Originally Posted by Danno Because its simple and exciting. It doesn't get simpler or more exciting than SUDDEN DEATH. Both sides getting the ball is just crybaby college BS. The college system is stupid. It is as bad as penalty kicks in soccer. I'd rather overtime be mud wrestling between opposing cheer squads than both sides get a turn.

02-28-2010, 09:21 AM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: New OT Rule Originally Posted by gumbeau It doesn't get simpler or more exciting than SUDDEN DEATH. To me it does.

02-28-2010, 10:00 AM	#4
21Hilliard 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Raised on the Bayou - living in DFW Posts: 136	Re: New OT Rule Originally Posted by gumbeau I'd rather overtime be mud wrestling between opposing cheer squads than both sides get a turn. Can we get that commercial free in overtime?

03-01-2010, 04:37 PM	#5
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: New OT Rule I agree with Toby that a tie is not the end of the world in regular season. We had ties in football for 60 years, and everybody did just fine. I agree with Gumbeau that the college system is stupid. If you dont want to lose the game to a coin toss, then win the damn game in regulation. Or come out and play defense. Does anybody remember we lost the coin toss to the Redskins in OT, then got a turnover & won the game? ScottF touched on the final answer, though. If they extend OT, then the NFL can sell more commercials. Guess what they're gonna do???? The last thing I want to see is more change. The worst thing the NFL can do is ** with a good thing. If you must have change, here's one. Eliminate replay**, and call the game on the field, like we did for 90 years. Replay is just a 2nd chance to blow the call. My kids were bored to death by the last game they saw. No wonder they watch wrestling. Just play ball.
	Last edited by skymike; 03-01-2010 at 04:45 PM..

02-28-2010, 08:05 AM	#6
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,496 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New OT Rule I bet this was started by the Vikings owner after we beat Favre down. They were talking about it during the overtime if I remember correctly. BOOOOOOOOhooooooooooo YOU LOST GET OVER IT! I don't care one way or another but lets get it right this time. Rule changes mean you never got it right the first time. You need to think outside the box and 30 to 50 years down the road not just for today.

02-28-2010, 10:18 AM	#7
B005TED Who Dat!!??!! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: AThelL Posts: 177	Re: New OT Rule "The NFL has had 325 overtime games since the rule was adopted in 1974. The results: Both teams have had possession 235 times (72.3%). The team that has won the toss has won 169 times (52.0%). The team that has lost the toss has won 141 times (43.4%). 223 games were decided by a field goal (68.6%). 86 games were decided by a TD (26.5%). One game was decided by a safety (0.3%). There have been 15 ties (4.6%)." Exact quote from USA Today, 52%-43%. Seems close enough to me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Leave it as it is. The team that loses the coin toss just needs to step up their defense. This game does have TWO sides of the ball.
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02-28-2010, 10:35 AM	#8
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: New OT Rule Originally Posted by B005TED Exact quote from USA Today, 52%-43%. Seems close enough to me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Leave it as it is. The team that loses the coin toss just needs to step up their defense. This game does have TWO sides of the ball. I have to agree with this. There is no perfect system, especially the college system. Another idea I have heard is just letting regular season games end in a tie at the end of the 4th Q. Then let OT be used for only playoff games. This is the kind of idea that just yells LEAVE THE CURRENT SYSTEM IN PLACE.
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02-28-2010, 10:48 AM	#9
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: New OT Rule Originally Posted by B005TED "The NFL has had 325 overtime games since the rule was adopted in 1974. The results: Both teams have had possession 235 times (72.3%). The team that has won the toss has won 169 times (52.0%). The team that has lost the toss has won 141 times (43.4%). 223 games were decided by a field goal (68.6%). 86 games were decided by a TD (26.5%). One game was decided by a safety (0.3%). There have been 15 ties (4.6%)." Exact quote from USA Today, 52%-43%. Seems close enough to me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Leave it as it is. The team that loses the coin toss just needs to step up their defense. This game does have TWO sides of the ball. The problem with all those numbers is that they go back to the beggining of the overetime rule, when the rules were different and it was more difficult to score. Also, they kicked off from the 40 back then which usually meant that drives started at the 20. Now, drives typically start at about the 30 and the rules favor the offense. Because of that, the percentage now heavily favors the first team to touch the ball. The coin toss is still 50/50 though. I don't see how lengthening the game will make it better.

03-01-2010, 06:16 AM	#10
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,102	Re: New OT Rule Originally Posted by B005TED "The NFL has had 325 overtime games since the rule was adopted in 1974. The results: Both teams have had possession 235 times (72.3%). The team that has won the toss has won 169 times (52.0%). The team that has lost the toss has won 141 times (43.4%). 223 games were decided by a field goal (68.6%). 86 games were decided by a TD (26.5%). One game was decided by a safety (0.3%). There have been 15 ties (4.6%)." Exact quote from USA Today, 52%-43%. Seems close enough to me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Leave it as it is. The team that loses the coin toss just needs to step up their defense. This game does have TWO sides of the ball. I was all for switching until I saw this post...I never realized it was that close. It seemes like first team kicks a field goal a lot more than that.

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