Sharper "Not feeling the love" from Saints

Turbo Saint · 03-11-2010, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

Like I said, Porter and Greer had more to do with his success than he had to do with theirs.
I find it funny how some players b*tch and moan when their team puts the franchise tag, and Sharper was damn near begging us to do it. Now that he has his freedom he is upset that we are letting him test the market. At some point the realization of the situation will become apparent. No team is going to over extend in years or dollars in this economy on a 34 year old safety.

i completely agree...

i would take less (but comparable for the field) money to work in san diego than more money to work in alabama...that simple. who wouldn't want that?

Saint_LB · 03-12-2010, 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by Turbo Saint

agreed with the latter...but to the statement that 3 to 5 anywhere on the planet...BS, location is #1 for me. job's a job, but you gotta be happy where you go home at night. (nfl players can probably fly anywhere, but my point stands).

And I'm calling BS on you...it's easy to say that you would turn down an extra 2 million when it's not really an alternative.

It's only 1 year. I could put up with anything for 1 year for an extra 2 million.

Hell...I find myself in WV today for an extra 45K. I don't like it here...and I will most definitely be leaving soon as my contract is up in 1 more month...but I came here for the extra 45K. That's $1,999,955.00 less than the 2 mil I was referring to.

I still don't think you've really thought it out...but, jmo.

Edit--Oh yeah...one other thing.

Originally Posted by Turbo Saint

but you gotta be happy where you go home at night.

This statement is true...but have you thought about the possibility of someone being extremely unhappy every night he goes home thinking about the 2 million he left on the street?

Turbo Saint · 03-12-2010, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

And I'm calling BS on you...it's easy to say that you would turn down an extra 2 million when it's not really an alternative.

It's only 1 year. I could put up with anything for 1 year for an extra 2 million.

Hell...I find myself in WV today for an extra 45K. I don't like it here...and I will most definitely be leaving soon as my contract is up in 1 more month...but I came here for the extra 45K. That's $1,999,955.00 less than the 2 mil I was referring to.

I still don't think you've really thought it out...but, jmo.

Edit--Oh yeah...one other thing.

This statement is true...but have you thought about the possibility of someone being extremely unhappy every night he goes home thinking about the 2 million he left on the street?

more reverted BS calls...3 mill or 5 mil...what's the difference, really? a 5000sqft house vs a 10k sqft house? come on. the difference is more understandable at a middle class level, but at his level, it's about the team and the locale IMO. your math is wrong too, btw :P

stockman311 · 03-12-2010, 11:33 AM

Loomis to WWL this morning:

Loomis: "I got all the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don’t have all the money in the world for Darren.....

NOLA54 · 03-12-2010, 12:17 PM

Greed is thicker than loyalty. You can give loyalty but don't expect it in return. I wonder how many Saints jerserys with the #44 were sold? We embraced him and this is how it ends? I guess the Super Bowl doesn't mean anything to him either.

Saint_LB · 03-12-2010, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Turbo Saint

your math is wrong too,

Oops! Good catch...I thought something looked funny about that. Anyway, you get the point, I think.

I hope for your sake that you get the opportunity to turn down an extra 2 million a year and are able to tell me about it.

CantonLegend · 03-12-2010, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Turbo Saint

more reverted BS calls...3 mill or 5 mil...what's the difference, really? a 5000sqft house vs a 10k sqft house? come on. the difference is more understandable at a middle class level, but at his level, it's about the team and the locale IMO. your math is wrong too, btw :P

2 million dollars is a lot of money no matter who you are

73Saint · 03-12-2010, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

Greed is thicker than loyalty. You can give loyalty but don't expect it in return. I wonder how many Saints jerserys with the #44 were sold? We embraced him and this is how it ends? I guess the Super Bowl doesn't mean anything to him either.

It's actually #42. Just sayin'

Danno · 03-12-2010, 05:10 PM

I wonder how much of the 2009 success was Darren Sharper being a lot better than anyone thought, or Gregg Williams defense making just about any above average FS look phenominal.

Personally I think Gregg Williams and Sean Payton know exactly how much of the success was really Darren Sharper and how much was really Gregg Williams.

IIRC, there was very little interest in Sharper last off-season and I think he was our 2nd choice. I know we offered Sensabaugh a 3 year deal.

OldMaid · 03-12-2010, 06:30 PM

Confused here??????

Why so hard on Sharper? Just asking,just asking. The tone of this thread is rather odd.
Yeah, the guy is 34 and just came off a SB winning team.
He wants to use that leverage and the work of his last year to get the biggest pay day he can.
The Saints cannot give him a pay he wants and will not do so and that is fine.
Soooooo, Sharper's (agents) will shop him around out there for the biggest pay day he can get.
So what if he ends up at Buffalo, Detroit or worst?
He'll play for big pay a year and call it a career over. Afterbeing part of a SB winning team, there is really no place to go but to the bank.
Another SB win or try for any team is very hard to do.
Fujita is in Cleveland.
Hey, the same thing Sharper is doing, Fujita did and we all wished him well etc.
Why not the same thing for Sharper?
This is the NFL ( Not For Long).
All of this loyalty talk and talk on how Sharper should look for the less pay day he can get is really silly.
Would you if you were Sharper ? No.
Would you if you were Fujita? No.

03-11-2010, 10:05 PM	#31
Turbo Saint SoCal Saint Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OB - San Diego, CA Posts: 726	Re: Sharper "Not feeling the love" from Saints Originally Posted by stockman311 Like I said, Porter and Greer had more to do with his success than he had to do with theirs. I find it funny how some players b*tch and moan when their team puts the franchise tag, and Sharper was damn near begging us to do it. Now that he has his freedom he is upset that we are letting him test the market. At some point the realization of the situation will become apparent. No team is going to over extend in years or dollars in this economy on a 34 year old safety. i completely agree... i would take less (but comparable for the field) money to work in san diego than more money to work in alabama...that simple. who wouldn't want that?

03-12-2010, 04:30 AM	#32
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Sharper "Not feeling the love" from Saints Originally Posted by Turbo Saint agreed with the latter...but to the statement that 3 to 5 anywhere on the planet...BS, location is #1 for me. job's a job, but you gotta be happy where you go home at night. (nfl players can probably fly anywhere, but my point stands). And I'm calling BS on you...it's easy to say that you would turn down an extra 2 million when it's not really an alternative. It's only 1 year. I could put up with anything for 1 year for an extra 2 million. Hell...I find myself in WV today for an extra 45K. I don't like it here...and I will most definitely be leaving soon as my contract is up in 1 more month...but I came here for the extra 45K. That's $1,999,955.00 less than the 2 mil I was referring to. I still don't think you've really thought it out...but, jmo. Edit--Oh yeah...one other thing. Originally Posted by Turbo Saint but you gotta be happy where you go home at night. This statement is true...but have you thought about the possibility of someone being extremely unhappy every night he goes home thinking about the 2 million he left on the street?
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03-12-2010, 10:51 AM	#33
Turbo Saint SoCal Saint Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OB - San Diego, CA Posts: 726	Re: Sharper "Not feeling the love" from Saints Originally Posted by Saint_LB And I'm calling BS on you...it's easy to say that you would turn down an extra 2 million when it's not really an alternative. It's only 1 year. I could put up with anything for 1 year for an extra 2 million. Hell...I find myself in WV today for an extra 45K. I don't like it here...and I will most definitely be leaving soon as my contract is up in 1 more month...but I came here for the extra 45K. That's $1,999,955.00 less than the 2 mil I was referring to. I still don't think you've really thought it out...but, jmo. Edit--Oh yeah...one other thing. This statement is true...but have you thought about the possibility of someone being extremely unhappy every night he goes home thinking about the 2 million he left on the street? more reverted BS calls...3 mill or 5 mil...what's the difference, really? a 5000sqft house vs a 10k sqft house? come on. the difference is more understandable at a middle class level, but at his level, it's about the team and the locale IMO. your math is wrong too, btw :P

03-12-2010, 11:33 AM	#34
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Sharper "Not feeling the love" from Saints Loomis to WWL this morning: Loomis: "I got all the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don’t have all the money in the world for Darren.....

03-12-2010, 12:17 PM	#35
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Sharper "Not feeling the love" from Saints Greed is thicker than loyalty. You can give loyalty but don't expect it in return. I wonder how many Saints jerserys with the #44 were sold? We embraced him and this is how it ends? I guess the Super Bowl doesn't mean anything to him either.

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03-12-2010, 01:22 PM	#36
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Sharper "Not feeling the love" from Saints Originally Posted by Turbo Saint your math is wrong too, Oops! Good catch...I thought something looked funny about that. Anyway, you get the point, I think. I hope for your sake that you get the opportunity to turn down an extra 2 million a year and are able to tell me about it.
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03-12-2010, 02:02 PM	#37
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Sharper "Not feeling the love" from Saints Originally Posted by Turbo Saint more reverted BS calls...3 mill or 5 mil...what's the difference, really? a 5000sqft house vs a 10k sqft house? come on. the difference is more understandable at a middle class level, but at his level, it's about the team and the locale IMO. your math is wrong too, btw :P 2 million dollars is a lot of money no matter who you are

03-12-2010, 03:59 PM	#38
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Sharper "Not feeling the love" from Saints Originally Posted by NOLA54 Greed is thicker than loyalty. You can give loyalty but don't expect it in return. I wonder how many Saints jerserys with the #44 were sold? We embraced him and this is how it ends? I guess the Super Bowl doesn't mean anything to him either. It's actually #42. Just sayin'

03-12-2010, 05:10 PM	#39
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Sharper "Not feeling the love" from Saints I wonder how much of the 2009 success was Darren Sharper being a lot better than anyone thought, or Gregg Williams defense making just about any above average FS look phenominal. Personally I think Gregg Williams and Sean Payton know exactly how much of the success was really Darren Sharper and how much was really Gregg Williams. IIRC, there was very little interest in Sharper last off-season and I think he was our 2nd choice. I know we offered Sensabaugh a 3 year deal.

03-12-2010, 06:30 PM	#40
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sharper "Not feeling the love" from Saints Confused here?????? Why so hard on Sharper? Just asking,just asking. The tone of this thread is rather odd. Yeah, the guy is 34 and just came off a SB winning team. He wants to use that leverage and the work of his last year to get the biggest pay day he can. The Saints cannot give him a pay he wants and will not do so and that is fine. Soooooo, Sharper's (agents) will shop him around out there for the biggest pay day he can get. So what if he ends up at Buffalo, Detroit or worst? He'll play for big pay a year and call it a career over. Afterbeing part of a SB winning team, there is really no place to go but to the bank. Another SB win or try for any team is very hard to do. Fujita is in Cleveland. Hey, the same thing Sharper is doing, Fujita did and we all wished him well etc. Why not the same thing for Sharper? This is the NFL ( Not For Long). All of this loyalty talk and talk on how Sharper should look for the less pay day he can get is really silly. Would you if you were Sharper ? No. Would you if you were Fujita? No.

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