Back-up QB options?

Cruize · 03-15-2010, 12:17 PM

Bulger. He had some great years in a pass happy Rams scheme with Martz. Under Payton he could revive his career.

strato · 03-15-2010, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Bulger. He had some great years in a pass happy Rams scheme with Martz. Under Payton he could revive his career.

He would be coming home..lol

Euphoria · 03-15-2010, 12:50 PM

I don't think Payton will give up anything to have a back up QB. He'd either get one in the draft that he loves or take a vet who is really over the hill. I do think he likes him some Chase.

Rugby Saint II · 03-15-2010, 02:44 PM

Chase Daniels was on the practice squad from what I remember and was cut and brought back a few times. It would be hard to match Drews measurables and compare the two. Payton will probably bring in a couple of young guys to compete with Daniels. There are several good young backups out there and Payton has shown the ability to evaluate talent well.

CantonLegend · 03-15-2010, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Is there any reason you didn't include their age in the stats you posted?

I mean, we could always pick up Joe Montana or Terry Bradshaw. They've got some awesome stats, and if we are allowed to ignore age, there could be some other great prospects out there available.

sure...we could pick them up, but they are retired

there is a reason i didnt include age.....because age isnt as big a deal as talent or intelligence

if a guy can still play then it doesnt matter how old or young he is

brunell is 39.....brett favre is 40.....kurt warner is 38.....jeff garcia is 40

there are lots of older QBs that played and can play.....we dont need a backup QB that can take over for drew right now because drew is still in his prime.....we need a QB who can fill in short term and win a few games if drew goes down.....thats what brunell is

then on the other hand.....we have chase daniel who is young enough to learn and be groomed for the long term replacement if drew retires or goes down for an extended period of time

we dont need a backup at the same age as drew because they will be asking for starting money as a backup

D_it_up · 03-15-2010, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

sure...we could pick them up, but they are retired

there is a reason i didnt include age.....because age isnt as big a deal as talent or intelligence

if a guy can still play then it doesnt matter how old or young he is

brunell is 39.....brett favre is 40.....kurt warner is 38.....jeff garcia is 40

there are lots of older QBs that played and can play.....we dont need a backup QB that can take over for drew right now because drew is still in his prime.....we need a QB who can fill in short term and win a few games if drew goes down.....thats what brunell is

then on the other hand.....we have chase daniel who is young enough to learn and be groomed for the long term replacement if drew retires or goes down for an extended period of time

we dont need a backup at the same age as drew because they will be asking for starting money as a backup

You really didn't just put Brunell in the same category as Warner, Favre, and Garcia, did you? The only thing similar about them IS the age. Brunell hasn't played a full season as a starter in what? 4 years? Those other guys are and were still playing at high levels for their age. The same cannot be said for Brunell. Do you honestly think the Saints could win a few games with him behind center if something happens to Brees? If you do, you are probably one of the few. I'll admit that I liked the signing of Brunell two years ago, but since I've seen him on the field, not so much anymore. Brunell looked God awful in that game against Carolina. It was painful to watch. Just because he has a decent resume, doesn't mean he is not replaceable. I will agree with you that Brunell is intelligent, but talent has left him long ago. I would much rather see what Chase Daniel can bring to the table over Brunell.

CantonLegend · 03-15-2010, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

You really didn't just put Brunell in the same category as Warner, Favre, and Garcia, did you? The only thing similar about them IS the age. Brunell hasn't played a full season as a starter in what? 4 years? Those other guys are and were still playing at high levels for their age. The same cannot be said for Brunell. Do you honestly think the Saints could win a few games with him behind center if something happens to Brees? If you do, you are probably one of the few. I'll admit that I liked the signing of Brunell two years ago, but since I've seen him on the field, not so much anymore. Brunell looked God awful in that game against Carolina. It was painful to watch. Just because he has a decent resume, doesn't mean he is not replaceable. I will agree with you that Brunell is intelligent, but talent has left him long ago. I would much rather see what Chase Daniel can bring to the table over Brunell.

in the carolina game.....with backups? against the #4 pass defense in the league? with all their starters in? thats the game you are judging?

come on brother. one game does not make a career.......brunell filled in for 1 game in 2 years against one of the premiere defenses in the league and your basing your opinion of him on that one game

but you'd rather have guys like derek anderson or jake delhomme who had a combined 11 TDs to 28 INTs

guys who lost a combined 6 fumbles in 18 starts combined......guys who couldnt make it on 2 of the worst teams in the league?

mjf150 · 03-15-2010, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

Brunell looked God awful in that game against Carolina. It was painful to watch.

Is there a reason that you left out that he was playing with second and even third stringers?

D_it_up · 03-15-2010, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

in the carolina game.....with backups? against the #4 pass defense in the league? with all their starters in? thats the game you are judging?

come on brother. one game does not make a career.......brunell filled in for 1 game in 2 years against one of the premiere defenses in the league and your basing your opinion of him on that one game

but you'd rather have guys like derek anderson or jake delhomme who had a combined 11 TDs to 28 INTs

guys who lost a combined 6 fumbles in 18 starts combined......guys who couldnt make it on 2 of the worst teams in the league?

Exactly. That is exactly what I am basing it on. Regardless of the starters that played that day for Carolina, they played pathetic on defense. If Brees had started, they would have been picked apart. They had nothing to play for but a .500 season and they showed it. Brunell's passes were terrible. Not even close to their mark. Why did the Saints run the majority of the time in the game? Because Brunell isn't good anymore. That's why. Brunell wouldn't be a starter for any team in the NFL right now. Not even the Bills. So why on earth would anyone be comfortable with him as a back-up to "fill in" a few games when his skill set has regressed drastically? And yes. I would rather have someone like Jake or Derek as a back up. Look at the receivers those two had to work with. Jake had a receiver that is probably on the down slope of his career in Steve Smith. Other than that, he had nothing. What did Anderson, or even Quinn for that matter, have in Cleveland? You should be able to answer that, because you talk about the Browns enough on here. If you can't, I'll answer for you. They had NOTHING. Their receivers were crap. You can't be good if you have nothing to work with. Anderson is two years removed from a pretty darn good season when he had more to work with. I'm not saying they would be All-World with the Saints if we had either one and something happened to Brees, but I would feel more comfortable seeing them behind center than Brunell. I don't care what kind of resume' Brunell has. He isn't good anymore. At all.

QBREES9 · 03-15-2010, 04:16 PM

Keep Chase. Let him grow behind Drew.

03-15-2010, 12:17 PM	#11
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03-15-2010, 12:39 PM	#12
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by Cruize Bulger. He had some great years in a pass happy Rams scheme with Martz. Under Payton he could revive his career. He would be coming home..lol

03-15-2010, 12:50 PM	#13
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Back-up QB options? I don't think Payton will give up anything to have a back up QB. He'd either get one in the draft that he loves or take a vet who is really over the hill. I do think he likes him some Chase.

03-15-2010, 02:44 PM	#14
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Back-up QB options? Chase Daniels was on the practice squad from what I remember and was cut and brought back a few times. It would be hard to match Drews measurables and compare the two. Payton will probably bring in a couple of young guys to compete with Daniels. There are several good young backups out there and Payton has shown the ability to evaluate talent well.

03-15-2010, 02:46 PM	#15
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by Saint_LB Is there any reason you didn't include their age in the stats you posted? I mean, we could always pick up Joe Montana or Terry Bradshaw. They've got some awesome stats, and if we are allowed to ignore age, there could be some other great prospects out there available. sure...we could pick them up, but they are retired there is a reason i didnt include age.....because age isnt as big a deal as talent or intelligence if a guy can still play then it doesnt matter how old or young he is brunell is 39.....brett favre is 40.....kurt warner is 38.....jeff garcia is 40 there are lots of older QBs that played and can play.....we dont need a backup QB that can take over for drew right now because drew is still in his prime.....we need a QB who can fill in short term and win a few games if drew goes down.....thats what brunell is then on the other hand.....we have chase daniel who is young enough to learn and be groomed for the long term replacement if drew retires or goes down for an extended period of time we dont need a backup at the same age as drew because they will be asking for starting money as a backup
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03-15-2010, 03:35 PM	#16
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by CantonLegend sure...we could pick them up, but they are retired there is a reason i didnt include age.....because age isnt as big a deal as talent or intelligence if a guy can still play then it doesnt matter how old or young he is brunell is 39.....brett favre is 40.....kurt warner is 38.....jeff garcia is 40 there are lots of older QBs that played and can play.....we dont need a backup QB that can take over for drew right now because drew is still in his prime.....we need a QB who can fill in short term and win a few games if drew goes down.....thats what brunell is then on the other hand.....we have chase daniel who is young enough to learn and be groomed for the long term replacement if drew retires or goes down for an extended period of time we dont need a backup at the same age as drew because they will be asking for starting money as a backup You really didn't just put Brunell in the same category as Warner, Favre, and Garcia, did you? The only thing similar about them IS the age. Brunell hasn't played a full season as a starter in what? 4 years? Those other guys are and were still playing at high levels for their age. The same cannot be said for Brunell. Do you honestly think the Saints could win a few games with him behind center if something happens to Brees? If you do, you are probably one of the few. I'll admit that I liked the signing of Brunell two years ago, but since I've seen him on the field, not so much anymore. Brunell looked God awful in that game against Carolina. It was painful to watch. Just because he has a decent resume, doesn't mean he is not replaceable. I will agree with you that Brunell is intelligent, but talent has left him long ago. I would much rather see what Chase Daniel can bring to the table over Brunell.

03-15-2010, 03:52 PM	#17
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by D_it_up You really didn't just put Brunell in the same category as Warner, Favre, and Garcia, did you? The only thing similar about them IS the age. Brunell hasn't played a full season as a starter in what? 4 years? Those other guys are and were still playing at high levels for their age. The same cannot be said for Brunell. Do you honestly think the Saints could win a few games with him behind center if something happens to Brees? If you do, you are probably one of the few. I'll admit that I liked the signing of Brunell two years ago, but since I've seen him on the field, not so much anymore. Brunell looked God awful in that game against Carolina. It was painful to watch. Just because he has a decent resume, doesn't mean he is not replaceable. I will agree with you that Brunell is intelligent, but talent has left him long ago. I would much rather see what Chase Daniel can bring to the table over Brunell. in the carolina game.....with backups? against the #4 pass defense in the league? with all their starters in? thats the game you are judging? come on brother. one game does not make a career.......brunell filled in for 1 game in 2 years against one of the premiere defenses in the league and your basing your opinion of him on that one game but you'd rather have guys like derek anderson or jake delhomme who had a combined 11 TDs to 28 INTs guys who lost a combined 6 fumbles in 18 starts combined......guys who couldnt make it on 2 of the worst teams in the league?
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03-15-2010, 03:52 PM	#18
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 747	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by D_it_up Brunell looked God awful in that game against Carolina. It was painful to watch. Is there a reason that you left out that he was playing with second and even third stringers?
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03-15-2010, 04:11 PM	#19
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by CantonLegend in the carolina game.....with backups? against the #4 pass defense in the league? with all their starters in? thats the game you are judging? come on brother. one game does not make a career.......brunell filled in for 1 game in 2 years against one of the premiere defenses in the league and your basing your opinion of him on that one game but you'd rather have guys like derek anderson or jake delhomme who had a combined 11 TDs to 28 INTs guys who lost a combined 6 fumbles in 18 starts combined......guys who couldnt make it on 2 of the worst teams in the league? Exactly. That is exactly what I am basing it on. Regardless of the starters that played that day for Carolina, they played pathetic on defense. If Brees had started, they would have been picked apart. They had nothing to play for but a .500 season and they showed it. Brunell's passes were terrible. Not even close to their mark. Why did the Saints run the majority of the time in the game? Because Brunell isn't good anymore. That's why. Brunell wouldn't be a starter for any team in the NFL right now. Not even the Bills. So why on earth would anyone be comfortable with him as a back-up to "fill in" a few games when his skill set has regressed drastically? And yes. I would rather have someone like Jake or Derek as a back up. Look at the receivers those two had to work with. Jake had a receiver that is probably on the down slope of his career in Steve Smith. Other than that, he had nothing. What did Anderson, or even Quinn for that matter, have in Cleveland? You should be able to answer that, because you talk about the Browns enough on here. If you can't, I'll answer for you. They had NOTHING. Their receivers were crap. You can't be good if you have nothing to work with. Anderson is two years removed from a pretty darn good season when he had more to work with. I'm not saying they would be All-World with the Saints if we had either one and something happened to Brees, but I would feel more comfortable seeing them behind center than Brunell. I don't care what kind of resume' Brunell has. He isn't good anymore. At all.

03-15-2010, 04:16 PM	#20
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