Back-up QB options?

saintfan · 03-18-2010, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

Wrong again. You apparently only read what you want to read. Go back and see where I've said that he has played sparingly the last four seasons. At 39 years old, that doesn't bode well for him at all. You can throw in that Warner and Favre both were doing it, but Brunell doesn't even belong in the same category as far as effectiveness. Only age. Regardless, his play on the field, be it regular season, preseason, playing with 2nd or 3rd stringers, or whatever barely warrants a back-up position. I will say again, in my OPINION, he wouldn't start for any team in the NFL, so why would I feel comfortable with him being on the field and winning games for the Saints if something happens to Brees? In short, I wouldn't feel comfortable. At all.

When did we start judging backups as starters? Brunell would probably tell you he's not a starter anymore. You're talking about Brunell the starter, but the discussion is about a backup.

D_it_up · 03-18-2010, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

When did we start judging backups as starters? Brunell would probably tell you he's not a starter anymore. You're talking about Brunell the starter, but the discussion is about a backup.

It ties together if Brees gets injured for a couple of games or the rest of the season. Want to take a guess on who becomes the starter? If you guessed Brunell, you get another miniature trophy to add to your collection. My point I have been trying to make all along is that I wouldn't feel comfortable about Brunell starting if something happened to Brees and he had to miss x-amount of time. I do not feel that he could come in and win games with his arm. That is my OPINION.

SmashMouth · 03-18-2010, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

It ties together if Brees gets injured for a couple of games or the rest of the season. Want to take a guess on who becomes the starter? If you guessed Brunell, you get another miniature trophy to add to your collection. My point I have been trying to make all along is that I wouldn't feel comfortable about Brunell starting if something happened to Brees and he had to miss x-amount of time. I do not feel that he could come in and win games with his arm. That is my OPINION.

Or his brain either!

saintfan · 03-18-2010, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

It ties together if Brees gets injured for a couple of games or the rest of the season. Want to take a guess on who becomes the starter? If you guessed Brunell, you get another miniature trophy to add to your collection. My point I have been trying to make all along is that I wouldn't feel comfortable about Brunell starting if something happened to Brees and he had to miss x-amount of time. I do not feel that he could come in and win games with his arm. That is my OPINION.

It doesn't tie together. If a guy grades as a starter he gets starter money. Backups get backup money. Look at who the backup is on other teams. Mark Brunell is plenty smart and he's been in the system for a while. What's the better option? And can't we at least agree that there are bigger needs on the team? Cause if Brees goes down we're in trouble, and I don't care who the #2 guy is...

D_it_up · 03-19-2010, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

It doesn't tie together. If a guy grades as a starter he gets starter money. Backups get backup money. Look at who the backup is on other teams. Mark Brunell is plenty smart and he's been in the system for a while. What's the better option? And can't we at least agree that there are bigger needs on the team? Cause if Brees goes down we're in trouble, and I don't care who the #2 guy is...

I will only things I will agree with you on is that if Brees go down we are screwed and that the team has bigger needs. As far as the rest? Not at all, because you apparently have missed my entire point. I'm not concerned about who is getting payed what for what position. What does that even have to do with my point? That has absolutely no bearing on my point. My point is, and I will state this again, that if Brees is injured for a number of games, who would be starting those games? If Brunell is the back up, then that would mean he would be starting the game. I don't care how much knowledge he has in the system or how smart he is. I don't care how many Pro Bowls he's been to or anything from his past. If he can't physically perform well in a back up role, then what makes anyone think that he would physically perform if he had to work with the first team? Knowledge of the system would get him nowhere. The Saints offense would struggle and they would more than likely lose more than they would win. That is why I think the back up QB spot needs to be addressed. Maybe not top of the list, but it definitely could be upgraded. I don't know how much more simple I can say this to get my point across.

03-18-2010, 07:25 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by D_it_up Wrong again. You apparently only read what you want to read. Go back and see where I've said that he has played sparingly the last four seasons. At 39 years old, that doesn't bode well for him at all. You can throw in that Warner and Favre both were doing it, but Brunell doesn't even belong in the same category as far as effectiveness. Only age. Regardless, his play on the field, be it regular season, preseason, playing with 2nd or 3rd stringers, or whatever barely warrants a back-up position. I will say again, in my OPINION, he wouldn't start for any team in the NFL, so why would I feel comfortable with him being on the field and winning games for the Saints if something happens to Brees? In short, I wouldn't feel comfortable. At all. When did we start judging backups as starters? Brunell would probably tell you he's not a starter anymore. You're talking about Brunell the starter, but the discussion is about a backup.

03-18-2010, 07:59 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by D_it_up It ties together if Brees gets injured for a couple of games or the rest of the season. Want to take a guess on who becomes the starter? If you guessed Brunell, you get another miniature trophy to add to your collection. My point I have been trying to make all along is that I wouldn't feel comfortable about Brunell starting if something happened to Brees and he had to miss x-amount of time. I do not feel that he could come in and win games with his arm. That is my OPINION. Or his brain either!

03-18-2010, 10:09 PM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by D_it_up It ties together if Brees gets injured for a couple of games or the rest of the season. Want to take a guess on who becomes the starter? If you guessed Brunell, you get another miniature trophy to add to your collection. My point I have been trying to make all along is that I wouldn't feel comfortable about Brunell starting if something happened to Brees and he had to miss x-amount of time. I do not feel that he could come in and win games with his arm. That is my OPINION. It doesn't tie together. If a guy grades as a starter he gets starter money. Backups get backup money. Look at who the backup is on other teams. Mark Brunell is plenty smart and he's been in the system for a while. What's the better option? And can't we at least agree that there are bigger needs on the team? Cause if Brees goes down we're in trouble, and I don't care who the #2 guy is...

03-19-2010, 12:05 AM	#5
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by saintfan It doesn't tie together. If a guy grades as a starter he gets starter money. Backups get backup money. Look at who the backup is on other teams. Mark Brunell is plenty smart and he's been in the system for a while. What's the better option? And can't we at least agree that there are bigger needs on the team? Cause if Brees goes down we're in trouble, and I don't care who the #2 guy is... I will only things I will agree with you on is that if Brees go down we are screwed and that the team has bigger needs. As far as the rest? Not at all, because you apparently have missed my entire point. I'm not concerned about who is getting payed what for what position. What does that even have to do with my point? That has absolutely no bearing on my point. My point is, and I will state this again, that if Brees is injured for a number of games, who would be starting those games? If Brunell is the back up, then that would mean he would be starting the game. I don't care how much knowledge he has in the system or how smart he is. I don't care how many Pro Bowls he's been to or anything from his past. If he can't physically perform well in a back up role, then what makes anyone think that he would physically perform if he had to work with the first team? Knowledge of the system would get him nowhere. The Saints offense would struggle and they would more than likely lose more than they would win. That is why I think the back up QB spot needs to be addressed. Maybe not top of the list, but it definitely could be upgraded. I don't know how much more simple I can say this to get my point across.

03-18-2010, 07:33 PM	#2
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by saintfan When did we start judging backups as starters? Brunell would probably tell you he's not a starter anymore. You're talking about Brunell the starter, but the discussion is about a backup. It ties together if Brees gets injured for a couple of games or the rest of the season. Want to take a guess on who becomes the starter? If you guessed Brunell, you get another miniature trophy to add to your collection. My point I have been trying to make all along is that I wouldn't feel comfortable about Brunell starting if something happened to Brees and he had to miss x-amount of time. I do not feel that he could come in and win games with his arm. That is my OPINION.