Patrick Robinson

falconhater · 04-23-2010, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by boonedocksaint

remember all the years we were pissed they werent drafting corners in the first round???

now we are sooooo deep at the position. is there really much of a doubt that those secondary problems we had in the past, just that...in the past?

Actually i may be wrong but I dont see us as deep at corner... when Greer and Porter went down we struggled had to bring in people off the street to stay competitive...ie mckenzie and mcCallister. We are deep as all get out at Saftey,,, Harper Sharper, Jenkins, Young,

strato · 04-23-2010, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by falconhater

Actually i may be wrong but I dont see us as deep at corner... when Greer and Porter went down we struggled had to bring in people off the street to stay competitive...ie mckenzie and mcCallister. We are deep as all get out at Saftey,,, Harper Sharper, Jenkins, Young,

LOl...im getting a kick out of watching everyone squirm....this the best Saints backfield i have everseen...just wait till after the draft till we make our opinions seem like they really matter...

falconhater · 04-23-2010, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by strato

LOl...im getting a kick out of watching everyone squirm....this the best Saints backfield i have everseen...just wait till after the draft till we make our opinions seem like they really matter...

Yeah the fun thing right now is We are the World Champs. we might have holes in our game but they are small holes . its like trying to upgrade a Bentley...you just Add more Leather. Its all good. all this talking here and all i here is WHO DAT!!!! and of course the WHAAAASSS WHAASSS from the minny fans!!!

AsylumGuido · 04-23-2010, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by strato

LOl...im getting a kick out of watching everyone squirm....this the best Saints backfield i have everseen...just wait till after the draft till we make our opinions seem like they really matter...

I agree. I am loving this backfield. As long as you have solid coverage in the secondary you can throw warm bodies in at LB and still be effective.

strato · 04-23-2010, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I agree. I am loving this backfield. As long as you have solid coverage in the secondary you can throw warm bodies in at LB and still be effective.

True...but i think there are some good ones coming up here to choose from...I like how Bill Billacheat drafts..trade out of the first ..and get more picks and get football players ,,,not overhyped millionaires to be...

D_it_up · 04-23-2010, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by falconhater

Actually i may be wrong but I dont see us as deep at corner... when Greer and Porter went down we struggled had to bring in people off the street to stay competitive...ie mckenzie and mcCallister. We are deep as all get out at Saftey,,, Harper Sharper, Jenkins, Young,

I think he is talking about being deep now. Last year, when Greer and Porter were out, so was Leigh Torrance. That pretty much left Gay and Jenkins as the only two corners, so signing guys at the position off the street had to be done. With the addition of Robinson, this gives the Saints a little more leverage in case the injury bug bites again this season, God forbid.

boonedocksaint · 04-23-2010, 09:54 AM

ok. maybe i put one too many "o's" on that "sooooo." i mean to say we're very deep in the secondary now. you also forgot gay (who im not crazy about) and vaughn. and of course, jenkins is still a corner.

i feel robinson is a guy who can start in the nickel, or fill in nicely IF (i dont wanna say when) porter or greer go down.

stockman311 · 04-23-2010, 09:57 AM

I know I said WHO? WHERE? when the Saints drafted a guy named Tracy Porter out of Indiana with the 40th pick in Round 2 of the 2008 draft. How did that pick work out for us?

This kid was picked in pretty much the same range, which leads me to believe that Loomis and Payton see him as a Porter clone. Porter - 5'11" 186 lbs 23 years old. Patrick Robinson - 5'11 1/4" 190 lbs 22 years old.

stockman311 · 04-23-2010, 10:41 AM

I have also said from the day we drafted Malcolm Jenkins that he is a FS not a corner because he lacks elite speed. I think we just upgraded two spots with one pick.

lumm0x · 04-23-2010, 10:48 AM

In this league it is seldom teams have the luxury of having a great pass rush as well as a blanket secondary. The two schools of thought are you can either get pressure with 4 and support a suspect coverage unit or you can man up in the secondary and blitz to achieve the pressure. I think that is the focus of Gregg Williams' scheme and that makes this pick make sense.

I knew this pick would be love/hate no matter who we took. All fans have different thoughts on the biggest need. I think the Saints found a pretty raw and athletic guy who they think they can turn into a solid tool for the secondary. We really were exposed last year when Porter and Greer went down. And I fully agree this is already the best and deepest secondary in the history of the team. It is much easier to find linebackers who can attack the passer and stop the run now. A great secondary can offset linebackers who are liabilities in coverage and can be allowed to focus forward only.

I am more than okay with the selection. Had we taken a WR or TE I'd be much upset.

04-23-2010, 09:40 AM	#1
falconhater 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 257	Re: Patrick Robinson Originally Posted by boonedocksaint remember all the years we were pissed they werent drafting corners in the first round??? now we are sooooo deep at the position. is there really much of a doubt that those secondary problems we had in the past, just that...in the past? Actually i may be wrong but I dont see us as deep at corner... when Greer and Porter went down we struggled had to bring in people off the street to stay competitive...ie mckenzie and mcCallister. We are deep as all get out at Saftey,,, Harper Sharper, Jenkins, Young,
falconhater 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 257

04-23-2010, 09:47 AM	#2
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Patrick Robinson Originally Posted by falconhater Actually i may be wrong but I dont see us as deep at corner... when Greer and Porter went down we struggled had to bring in people off the street to stay competitive...ie mckenzie and mcCallister. We are deep as all get out at Saftey,,, Harper Sharper, Jenkins, Young, LOl...im getting a kick out of watching everyone squirm....this the best Saints backfield i have everseen...just wait till after the draft till we make our opinions seem like they really matter...

04-23-2010, 09:51 AM	#3
falconhater 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 257	Re: Patrick Robinson Originally Posted by strato LOl...im getting a kick out of watching everyone squirm....this the best Saints backfield i have everseen...just wait till after the draft till we make our opinions seem like they really matter... Yeah the fun thing right now is We are the World Champs. we might have holes in our game but they are small holes . its like trying to upgrade a Bentley...you just Add more Leather. Its all good. all this talking here and all i here is WHO DAT!!!! and of course the WHAAAASSS WHAASSS from the minny fans!!!
falconhater 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 257

04-23-2010, 09:52 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,674	Re: Patrick Robinson Originally Posted by strato LOl...im getting a kick out of watching everyone squirm....this the best Saints backfield i have everseen...just wait till after the draft till we make our opinions seem like they really matter... I agree. I am loving this backfield. As long as you have solid coverage in the secondary you can throw warm bodies in at LB and still be effective.

04-23-2010, 09:55 AM	#5
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Patrick Robinson Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I agree. I am loving this backfield. As long as you have solid coverage in the secondary you can throw warm bodies in at LB and still be effective. True...but i think there are some good ones coming up here to choose from...I like how Bill Billacheat drafts..trade out of the first ..and get more picks and get football players ,,,not overhyped millionaires to be...

04-23-2010, 09:49 AM	#6
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Patrick Robinson Originally Posted by falconhater Actually i may be wrong but I dont see us as deep at corner... when Greer and Porter went down we struggled had to bring in people off the street to stay competitive...ie mckenzie and mcCallister. We are deep as all get out at Saftey,,, Harper Sharper, Jenkins, Young, I think he is talking about being deep now. Last year, when Greer and Porter were out, so was Leigh Torrance. That pretty much left Gay and Jenkins as the only two corners, so signing guys at the position off the street had to be done. With the addition of Robinson, this gives the Saints a little more leverage in case the injury bug bites again this season, God forbid.

04-23-2010, 09:54 AM	#7
boonedocksaint 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 340	Re: Patrick Robinson ok. maybe i put one too many "o's" on that "sooooo." i mean to say we're very deep in the secondary now. you also forgot gay (who im not crazy about) and vaughn. and of course, jenkins is still a corner. i feel robinson is a guy who can start in the nickel, or fill in nicely IF (i dont wanna say when) porter or greer go down.

04-23-2010, 09:57 AM	#8
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Patrick Robinson I know I said WHO? WHERE? when the Saints drafted a guy named Tracy Porter out of Indiana with the 40th pick in Round 2 of the 2008 draft. How did that pick work out for us? This kid was picked in pretty much the same range, which leads me to believe that Loomis and Payton see him as a Porter clone. Porter - 5'11" 186 lbs 23 years old. Patrick Robinson - 5'11 1/4" 190 lbs 22 years old.

04-23-2010, 10:41 AM	#9
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Patrick Robinson I have also said from the day we drafted Malcolm Jenkins that he is a FS not a corner because he lacks elite speed. I think we just upgraded two spots with one pick.

04-23-2010, 10:48 AM	#10
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Patrick Robinson In this league it is seldom teams have the luxury of having a great pass rush as well as a blanket secondary. The two schools of thought are you can either get pressure with 4 and support a suspect coverage unit or you can man up in the secondary and blitz to achieve the pressure. I think that is the focus of Gregg Williams' scheme and that makes this pick make sense. I knew this pick would be love/hate no matter who we took. All fans have different thoughts on the biggest need. I think the Saints found a pretty raw and athletic guy who they think they can turn into a solid tool for the secondary. We really were exposed last year when Porter and Greer went down. And I fully agree this is already the best and deepest secondary in the history of the team. It is much easier to find linebackers who can attack the passer and stop the run now. A great secondary can offset linebackers who are liabilities in coverage and can be allowed to focus forward only. I am more than okay with the selection. Had we taken a WR or TE I'd be much upset.

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