Grade our draft

CantonLegend · 04-25-2010, 11:29 AM

lots of good talent in our picks......but didnt really answer the questions we had coming into the draft

we need to do something about our poor run defense still

FrenzyFan · 04-25-2010, 11:52 AM

I felt similarly to this after last years draft. Our picks last year were lackluster at best. If you recall we passed on Cushing, and Orakpo. We selected Jenkins as the "better value" even though he's a CB who many say can't cut it there and needs to be a safety. At least he contributed on special teams but he was also an injury concern last year. The best move we made was the punter, and that was something of a surprise especially considering one of the best things he added for us was on kickoffs!
We won it all, but I don't see our run D getting any better from this. Maybe the thinking is that teams can't keep up with us in scoring by running - they have to pass. That being the case, we don't need a run D. It seems to me we needed to do something about defending the run, replace Fujita, and upgrade Shanle (even though I know he's consistent if not flashy). We didn't.

strato · 04-25-2010, 11:57 AM

I like the picks more and more...Wish we could have landed Jerry Hughes..Damn Colts....lol..but a i gave it a solid B...I think there are some UFA that might even be better than our picks...I hope Galette makes the team..i can see him a situational pass rusher..The kid out of Texas Tech..could be great depth on the O-line...he played in the Big 12..and handled Suh and McCoy easily...The TE..im thinking Shockey and Thomas will help him a lot...and lastly i think the Charles Brown {like the name..think "Bells will be ringing",,lol...could be our future LT...so all i all its a solid draft..The biggest question mark to me is DT..and LB...did we really upgrade?...we shall see...

Danno · 04-25-2010, 12:20 PM

Based on needs - C
Based on value - A
Based on each player's potential - A plus

Overall - B

Robinson - picked about where he was projected
Brown - 5th best OT, projected late 1st, picked end of 2nd,
Graham - 3rd best TE in the draft, projected 2nd rounder, picked end of 3rd
Woods - 3rd round projection, picked at the end of 4th
Tennant - 2nd rated Center, projected 3rd rounder, picked at the end of the 5th

We had an excellent draft.

strato · 04-25-2010, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Based on needs - C
Based on value - A
Based on each player's potential - A plus

Overall - B

Robinson - picked about where he was projected
Brown - 5th best OT, projected late 1st, picked end of 2nd,
Graham - 3rd best TE in the draft, projected 2nd rounder, picked end of 3rd
Woods - 3rd round projection, picked at the end of 4th
Tennant - 2nd rated Center, projected 3rd rounder, picked at the end of the 5th

We had an excellent draft.

Only because we didnt draft a punter..huh.. Danno..lol..J/K....but you have to admit..Moorestead was a good pick as well..

foreverfan · 04-25-2010, 12:28 PM

Whoever gave us a "F" or a "D" must have really wanted a LB bad.

strato · 04-25-2010, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Whoever gave us a "F" or a "D" must have really wanted a LB bad.

That was a Falcoon fan ..im sure...lol

Danno · 04-25-2010, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by strato

....but you have to admit..Moorestead was a good pick as well..

Uhh no I don't.

I was still dumb to give up two picks for a freaking punter in a 4 pick draft.

No other team has done that ever. In fact, no team has drafted a punter that early this decade that didn't have 7 or more picks. Most had over 7 picks and only gave up one pick.

We still win the Superbowl with an average punter.

Good punter, but we gave up way way too much for him.

Euphoria · 04-25-2010, 12:40 PM

Well I disagree with Kiper on that there wasn't a lot of options. There were plenty of options. We could have gone and done anything. I was actually surprised at our choices at 32. Saints couldn't go wrong and yet they could have gone so right.

I have a hard time grading the draft until these guys get out there develop and get some playing time. Even grading these guys now is a gamble to say the least I can't how anyone can really justify any grade really. But for entertainment sake I think they unraveled at the end of the draft A QB??? C- high D.

What we should do is go back and grade the draft from 3 and 4 years ago. LEts see SB... A.

strato · 04-25-2010, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Uhh no I don't.

I was still dumb to give up two picks for a freaking punter in a 4 pick draft.

No other team has done that ever. In fact, no team has drafted a punter that early this decade that didn't have 7 or more picks. Most had over 7 picks and only gave up one pick.

We still win the Superbowl with an average punter.

Good punter, but we gave up way way too much for him.

Ok Danno..i beg to differ..but it doesnt matter now ..as you say we won the superbowl and Moorstead..was big part of how we got there..if you cant see that then well...thats your blindness...Peace

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04-25-2010, 11:29 AM	#11
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Grade our draft lots of good talent in our picks......but didnt really answer the questions we had coming into the draft we need to do something about our poor run defense still

04-25-2010, 11:52 AM	#12
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Re: Grade our draft I felt similarly to this after last years draft. Our picks last year were lackluster at best. If you recall we passed on Cushing, and Orakpo. We selected Jenkins as the "better value" even though he's a CB who many say can't cut it there and needs to be a safety. At least he contributed on special teams but he was also an injury concern last year. The best move we made was the punter, and that was something of a surprise especially considering one of the best things he added for us was on kickoffs! We won it all, but I don't see our run D getting any better from this. Maybe the thinking is that teams can't keep up with us in scoring by running - they have to pass. That being the case, we don't need a run D. It seems to me we needed to do something about defending the run, replace Fujita, and upgrade Shanle (even though I know he's consistent if not flashy). We didn't.
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04-25-2010, 11:57 AM	#13
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Grade our draft I like the picks more and more...Wish we could have landed Jerry Hughes..Damn Colts....lol..but a i gave it a solid B...I think there are some UFA that might even be better than our picks...I hope Galette makes the team..i can see him a situational pass rusher..The kid out of Texas Tech..could be great depth on the O-line...he played in the Big 12..and handled Suh and McCoy easily...The TE..im thinking Shockey and Thomas will help him a lot...and lastly i think the Charles Brown {like the name..think "Bells will be ringing",,lol...could be our future LT...so all i all its a solid draft..The biggest question mark to me is DT..and LB...did we really upgrade?...we shall see...

04-25-2010, 12:20 PM	#14
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Grade our draft Based on needs - C Based on value - A Based on each player's potential - A plus Overall - B Robinson - picked about where he was projected Brown - 5th best OT, projected late 1st, picked end of 2nd, Graham - 3rd best TE in the draft, projected 2nd rounder, picked end of 3rd Woods - 3rd round projection, picked at the end of 4th Tennant - 2nd rated Center, projected 3rd rounder, picked at the end of the 5th We had an excellent draft.

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04-25-2010, 12:23 PM	#15
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by Danno Based on needs - C Based on value - A Based on each player's potential - A plus Overall - B Robinson - picked about where he was projected Brown - 5th best OT, projected late 1st, picked end of 2nd, Graham - 3rd best TE in the draft, projected 2nd rounder, picked end of 3rd Woods - 3rd round projection, picked at the end of 4th Tennant - 2nd rated Center, projected 3rd rounder, picked at the end of the 5th We had an excellent draft. Only because we didnt draft a punter..huh.. Danno..lol..J/K....but you have to admit..Moorestead was a good pick as well..

04-25-2010, 12:28 PM	#16
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Grade our draft Whoever gave us a "F" or a "D" must have really wanted a LB bad.

04-25-2010, 12:30 PM	#17
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by foreverfan Whoever gave us a "F" or a "D" must have really wanted a LB bad. That was a Falcoon fan ..im sure...lol

04-25-2010, 12:34 PM	#18
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by strato ....but you have to admit..Moorestead was a good pick as well.. Uhh no I don't. I was still dumb to give up two picks for a freaking punter in a 4 pick draft. No other team has done that ever. In fact, no team has drafted a punter that early this decade that didn't have 7 or more picks. Most had over 7 picks and only gave up one pick. We still win the Superbowl with an average punter. Good punter, but we gave up way way too much for him.

04-25-2010, 12:40 PM	#19
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Grade our draft Well I disagree with Kiper on that there wasn't a lot of options. There were plenty of options. We could have gone and done anything. I was actually surprised at our choices at 32. Saints couldn't go wrong and yet they could have gone so right. I have a hard time grading the draft until these guys get out there develop and get some playing time. Even grading these guys now is a gamble to say the least I can't how anyone can really justify any grade really. But for entertainment sake I think they unraveled at the end of the draft A QB??? C- high D. What we should do is go back and grade the draft from 3 and 4 years ago. LEts see SB... A.
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04-25-2010, 12:41 PM	#20
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by Danno Uhh no I don't. I was still dumb to give up two picks for a freaking punter in a 4 pick draft. No other team has done that ever. In fact, no team has drafted a punter that early this decade that didn't have 7 or more picks. Most had over 7 picks and only gave up one pick. We still win the Superbowl with an average punter. Good punter, but we gave up way way too much for him. Ok Danno..i beg to differ..but it doesnt matter now ..as you say we won the superbowl and Moorstead..was big part of how we got there..if you cant see that then well...thats your blindness...Peace