Grade our draft

Danno · 04-26-2010, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan

The way I see it we got the 5th best CB, 7th best OT, 4th best TE, 13th best DT, 3rd best C, and 15th best QB. To me, that carries a C grade, but the key with these guys is potential. Robinson, Brown, and Graham have tremendous upsides to them. As such, I would say B to B- overall.

Depends on which site you reference.

NFL Draftscout (CBS Sports) has them listed a bit different...

5th best CB (rd 1-2) Taken last in the 1st
5th Best OT (rd 1-2) Taken last in the 2nd
3rd best TE (rd 2-3) Taken last in the 3rd
11th best DT (rd 3) Taken 25th in the 4th
2nd best OC (rd 3-4) Taken 27th in the 5th

All but Robinson was taken nearly a full round after their projection

That has A written all over it.

darstep · 04-26-2010, 12:20 PM

Our foundation is still strong. We just need new doors and windows or a re-do of the kitchen: new cabinets and countertop. I think it will be difficult to match the way the ball bounced for us last season. We will have lots of new talent to go along with our returning and improving veterens. Should be another exciting run for the gold. Once again, our season will depend on how the defense is able to help us, on the few occasions that our offense is not hitting on all cylinders.

iceshack149 · 04-27-2010, 12:44 PM

Good draft, especially in the later rounds. I still don't like the TE pick due to his minimal playing experience and the Saints defensive needs but I'd give the Saints a B.

Thing is, the Saints have scouts and a lot of people working together when drafting and the organization knows their needs much better than any of us do. Admittedly, some of the picks that were made last week bugged me but after consideration and a little research I see the reasons for those picks.

I'm willing to eat crow if the TE turns out to be all world in the future.

BRSaintsFan · 04-27-2010, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Depends on which site you reference.

NFL Draftscout (CBS Sports) has them listed a bit different...

5th best CB (rd 1-2) Taken last in the 1st
5th Best OT (rd 1-2) Taken last in the 2nd
3rd best TE (rd 2-3) Taken last in the 3rd
11th best DT (rd 3) Taken 25th in the 4th
2nd best OC (rd 3-4) Taken 27th in the 5th

All but Robinson was taken nearly a full round after their projection

That has A written all over it.

No site referencing, just my own opinions as to the prospect ranks. And again the projections you are going off of are going to vary with different draft expert sites that you reference. I voted B and cant say A, just because of the players we selected, as a whole seem more like high potential picks rather than proven players. Brown only has 2 years starting on the line, Graham has 1 year of college ball, Woods is a 1 year starter without much production from a stats view, Robinson only had 7 picks in 2.5 years starting and showed inconsistency.

I think if all picks live up to their potential 100%, you have a high level man to man corner, bookend left tackle, the next Antonio Gates, a starting DT and starting C. If that happens, A+, but Ill go with B right after.

saintsfan601 · 04-27-2010, 04:21 PM

I don't see how anyone can argue that Moorestead was not a great pick.He helped us win games last year.

Danno · 04-27-2010, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan601

I don't see how anyone can argue that Moorestead was not a great pick.He helped us win games last year.

So did Jo-Lonn Dunbar, Courtney Roby, Jason Kyle, Troy Evans, Pierson Prieloux, and Chris Reis, are they worth two picks in the NFL draft?

saintsfan601 · 04-27-2010, 04:38 PM

probably not.I think Moorestead was worth it though.I just don't think those two picks really cost us anything.

Danno · 04-27-2010, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan601

probably not.I think Moorestead was worth it though.I just don't think those two picks really cost us anything.

And thats why its an opinion. Its my opinion it was too much. Just because he looks like a promising young punter doesn't mean a punter is worth two picks in a draft where you only have 2 picks.

There is a bit of satisfaction that the 5th we gave up ended up being the last pick in that round. That was a bonus that cushions the blow quite a bit.

I also take issue with those that say since we won the Superbowl, no decision should be questioned, and then they question numerous other decisions this team makes.

breesfan27 · 04-27-2010, 06:46 PM

I love how most of these threads go from innocent football discussions to verbal sucker punches. *sarcasm*

I gave the team a B. I think we neglected to fill the holes in our defense. I'm not doubting the ability of the FO, I just think we should have gone after more defensive players.

On another note, NFL Network did their "grading" of our division. They gave us a D+. Bucs got a B, Falcons got a C and Panthers got a D+.

Danno · 04-27-2010, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by breesfan27

I love how most of these threads go from innocent football discussions to verbal sucker punches. *sarcasm*

I gave the team a B. I think we neglected to fill the holes in our defense. I'm not doubting the ability of the FO, I just think we should have gone after more defensive players.

On another note, NFL Network did their "grading" of our division. They gave us a D+. Bucs got a B, Falcons got a C and Panthers got a D+.

Wow, the Bucs got a B?

Probably because they drafted a Punter in the 6th with one of their NINE picks.

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04-26-2010, 11:52 AM	#51
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan The way I see it we got the 5th best CB, 7th best OT, 4th best TE, 13th best DT, 3rd best C, and 15th best QB. To me, that carries a C grade, but the key with these guys is potential. Robinson, Brown, and Graham have tremendous upsides to them. As such, I would say B to B- overall. Depends on which site you reference. NFL Draftscout (CBS Sports) has them listed a bit different... 5th best CB (rd 1-2) Taken last in the 1st 5th Best OT (rd 1-2) Taken last in the 2nd 3rd best TE (rd 2-3) Taken last in the 3rd 11th best DT (rd 3) Taken 25th in the 4th 2nd best OC (rd 3-4) Taken 27th in the 5th All but Robinson was taken nearly a full round after their projection That has A written all over it.

04-26-2010, 12:20 PM	#52
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Grade our draft Our foundation is still strong. We just need new doors and windows or a re-do of the kitchen: new cabinets and countertop. I think it will be difficult to match the way the ball bounced for us last season. We will have lots of new talent to go along with our returning and improving veterens. Should be another exciting run for the gold. Once again, our season will depend on how the defense is able to help us, on the few occasions that our offense is not hitting on all cylinders.

04-27-2010, 12:44 PM	#53
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,488 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Grade our draft Good draft, especially in the later rounds. I still don't like the TE pick due to his minimal playing experience and the Saints defensive needs but I'd give the Saints a B. Thing is, the Saints have scouts and a lot of people working together when drafting and the organization knows their needs much better than any of us do. Admittedly, some of the picks that were made last week bugged me but after consideration and a little research I see the reasons for those picks. I'm willing to eat crow if the TE turns out to be all world in the future.
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04-27-2010, 02:52 PM	#54
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by Danno Depends on which site you reference. NFL Draftscout (CBS Sports) has them listed a bit different... 5th best CB (rd 1-2) Taken last in the 1st 5th Best OT (rd 1-2) Taken last in the 2nd 3rd best TE (rd 2-3) Taken last in the 3rd 11th best DT (rd 3) Taken 25th in the 4th 2nd best OC (rd 3-4) Taken 27th in the 5th All but Robinson was taken nearly a full round after their projection That has A written all over it. No site referencing, just my own opinions as to the prospect ranks. And again the projections you are going off of are going to vary with different draft expert sites that you reference. I voted B and cant say A, just because of the players we selected, as a whole seem more like high potential picks rather than proven players. Brown only has 2 years starting on the line, Graham has 1 year of college ball, Woods is a 1 year starter without much production from a stats view, Robinson only had 7 picks in 2.5 years starting and showed inconsistency. I think if all picks live up to their potential 100%, you have a high level man to man corner, bookend left tackle, the next Antonio Gates, a starting DT and starting C. If that happens, A+, but Ill go with B right after.

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04-27-2010, 04:21 PM	#55
saintsfan601 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Meridian MS Posts: 259	Re: Grade our draft I don't see how anyone can argue that Moorestead was not a great pick.He helped us win games last year.

04-27-2010, 04:26 PM	#56
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by saintsfan601 I don't see how anyone can argue that Moorestead was not a great pick.He helped us win games last year. So did Jo-Lonn Dunbar, Courtney Roby, Jason Kyle, Troy Evans, Pierson Prieloux, and Chris Reis, are they worth two picks in the NFL draft?

04-27-2010, 04:38 PM	#57
saintsfan601 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Meridian MS Posts: 259	Re: Grade our draft probably not.I think Moorestead was worth it though.I just don't think those two picks really cost us anything.

04-27-2010, 05:38 PM	#58
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by saintsfan601 probably not.I think Moorestead was worth it though.I just don't think those two picks really cost us anything. And thats why its an opinion. Its my opinion it was too much. Just because he looks like a promising young punter doesn't mean a punter is worth two picks in a draft where you only have 2 picks. There is a bit of satisfaction that the 5th we gave up ended up being the last pick in that round. That was a bonus that cushions the blow quite a bit. I also take issue with those that say since we won the Superbowl, no decision should be questioned, and then they question numerous other decisions this team makes.

04-27-2010, 06:46 PM	#59
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Grade our draft I love how most of these threads go from innocent football discussions to verbal sucker punches. sarcasm I gave the team a B. I think we neglected to fill the holes in our defense. I'm not doubting the ability of the FO, I just think we should have gone after more defensive players. On another note, NFL Network did their "grading" of our division. They gave us a D+. Bucs got a B, Falcons got a C and Panthers got a D+.

04-27-2010, 06:54 PM	#60
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by breesfan27 I love how most of these threads go from innocent football discussions to verbal sucker punches. sarcasm I gave the team a B. I think we neglected to fill the holes in our defense. I'm not doubting the ability of the FO, I just think we should have gone after more defensive players. On another note, NFL Network did their "grading" of our division. They gave us a D+. Bucs got a B, Falcons got a C and Panthers got a D+. Wow, the Bucs got a B? Probably because they drafted a Punter in the 6th with one of their NINE picks.