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Why not Fat Albert!!!!

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Moot point bc there's no way Washington will be able to move him anyway. But after reading this, I learned more about his "status" with DC...lol!! Maybe it's time to add a drama queen smilie. HA!! The Washington Redskins gave ...

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Old 05-21-2010, 09:10 AM   #11
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Re: Why not Fat Albert!!!!

Moot point bc there's no way Washington will be able to move him anyway.

But after reading this, I learned more about his "status" with DC...lol!!

Maybe it's time to add a drama queen smilie. HA!!

The Washington Redskins gave Albert Haynesworth(notes) a seven-year, $100 million contract with $41 million guaranteed before the 2009 season, and they probably assumed that they were paying enough to have Haynesworth play in whatever defensive scheme the team wanted without argument. Not so, of course. When Mike Shanahan hired defensive coordinator Jim Haslett in the offseason, and Haslett started installing his preferred 3-4 defense, Haynesworth balked, knowing that the move from the 4-3 would affect his stats. Defensive tackles in a 4-3 are able to attack more often because there are more people in the base formation. In a 3-4, Haynesworth's job will be to hold the point for other people, and that's true whether he plays the nose tackle or jumps out to an end position. Now, he would not be the focus -- he'd be tying up blockers for Brian Orakpo(notes) and Andre Carter(notes).
The Redskins knew full well that Haynesworth was unhappy, and paid his $21 million option bonus in April without incident -- surely they were hoping that it would all blow over. It hasn't. Haynesworth has skipped all of the Redskins' minicamps and OTAs, choosing instead to work out near his Nashville home. "I'm disappointed he's not here. Absolutely," team owner Dan Snyder told the Washington Post last week. "We're expecting our players to lead by example, and we're expecting our players to understand that they're Redskins and they need to be here."
The Redskins have made moves to augment a 3-4 line -- they traded for Rams defender Adam Carriker(notes), the former Nebraska standout who was always out of place in St. Louis' base 4-3. At 6-6 and 300 pounds, Carriker has the perfect technique and body style to project as a 34 end. And Monday, it was announced that the team came to terms with veteran Vonnie Holiday. The 34-year-old was one of the NFL's more productive 3-4 ends last season, racking up five sacks for the Denver Broncos at a position where quarterback takedowns aren't all that common. The Carriker and Holliday moves would seem to trap Haynesworth inside, exactly where he doesn't want to be.
But according to SI.com's Ross Tucker, the Holliday acquisition indicated that Haynesworth is on the outs, and that trade talks with the Minnesota Vikings are still in play. It makes sense in many ways -- the Vikings run the 4-3 that Haynesworth prefers, the Redskins have already paid so much of the contract, and the Redskins may think that it's worth it to be rid of the disruptive influence from a declining player. Not to mention the fact that tackles Kevin and Pat Williams(notes) will start the season on the bench if they are required to serve four-game suspensions as a result of their roles in the StarCaps case. Don't be surprised if the Redskins go forward without the biggest (and perhaps most regrettable) free-agent signing in team history.
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:19 PM   #12
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Man that is a fat dog!
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:46 PM   #13
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Man that is a fat dog!
Ha! Are you talking about your avatar? That guy was great in the Water boy. What was his name?
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Old 05-21-2010, 02:20 PM   #14
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Brown and a 1st for Albert is WAY too much
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Old 05-21-2010, 02:24 PM   #15
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Brown for Haynesworth. Two problems solved. It's not about stats for Haynesworth as the article implied. In the 3-4 at NT, he would be facing double teams on every play, instead of the occasional double team in the 4-3. That would shorten his career and make it almost a certainty that he wouldn't recieve the full benefits of his contract. He's using the only leverage he has. Veterans do it all the time for one reason or another. He would instantly make the DL of the Saints a force. And with only one quality LB in Vilma, it would make Shanle's and whoever lines up in SLB this season jobs much easier.

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Old 05-21-2010, 04:38 PM   #16
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Farmer Fran wasn't it? He likes to see homo's naked....
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:05 PM   #17
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You know what you call that fat dog?


Nothing... he ain't coming anyway.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:14 PM   #18
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welcome new guy, i regret to inform you that we've already discussed this in deep detail, please use search bar for enlightenment. If your lazy then I say this; The idea of a wide body is nice to have on defense I usually give players the benefit of the doubt, i understand where Fat boy is comming from. HELL NO @ giving up Jamaal Brown and a 1st for Albert, we could have had him for a 3rd why have a fire sale?
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:23 PM   #19
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welcome new guy, i regret to inform you that we've already discussed this in deep detail, please use search bar for enlightenment. If your lazy then I say this; The idea of a wide body is nice to have on defense I usually give players the benefit of the doubt, i understand where Fat boy is comming from. HELL NO @ giving up Jamaal Brown and a 1st for Albert, we could have had him for a 3rd why have a fire sale?
Choup is that you..lol...
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:03 PM   #20
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I'll tell you why not. He has a terrible work ethic. Namely none, take the money, and take as much money as you possibly can. Why would you want to add that kind of an attitude to a team first, nothing but positive mindset locker room that is obviously the best in the whole league. Why do you think the Saints are World Champs anyway?
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