An Open Letter to the Saints....

BillyCarpenter1 · 10-01-2003, 02:04 PM

Buc --

Thanks for wishing us luck, but it\'s kind of an unwritten rule for me not wish anyone in our division any luck. I can understand your position, because it doesn\'t look like we are a threat to the Bucs right now. But for a Saints fan to be wishing a team in our division any luck right now is just unacceptable. What he should be doing is wishing the Saints luck and praying that every other team in the South doesn\'t win another game !!

I\'d just don\'t respect fans like that!!

TheOriginalSwampdog · 10-01-2003, 02:05 PM

Listen, you two clowns. This Buc\'s fan came on here with the untmost respect. And I respect that. If you two could get your heads out of your asses long enough, you\'d realize that the Bucs are everything we aspire to be. There were once the epitome of losing and now, have made themselves into a model franchise. We should envy them, not despise them. And if you two genius\' think they we have a chinaman\'s chance in hell of beating the Bucs this season, I\'d be more than happy to take your bets.

JOESAM2002 · 10-01-2003, 04:06 PM

Tweeky, surely you can\'t meean the size of that ring? LOL. It does help if we keep the photos to a smaller size and I would ask all to please try to keep it down sized a bit.

WhoDat · 10-01-2003, 04:51 PM

Great post Buc. I will disagree with one thing. Haz is not a has-been, he\'s a never was. Meuller did bring in Brooks, Blake, and Horn in his first year. However, much of the rest of Haslett\'s 2000 campaign was done with hold-overs from the Ditka era.

I do find it interesting that Billy has done a complete 180, with the exception of Brooks of course. That\'s OK Billy - next time, just try to listen more than you talk, and take others\' thoughts into consideration even if they stand in contrast to your own. I\'m not talking about me. There were a lot of other people on this board that gave you plenty of reason to question the defense, to question Haslett, etc. Maybe you should listen to even your staunchest opponents. Some of us do know a thing or two about football you know?

TheOriginalSwampdog · 10-01-2003, 04:52 PM

Antagonistic! enough.

[Edited on 2/10/2003 by JOESAM2002]

BillyCarpenter1 · 10-01-2003, 06:31 PM

WhoDat --

Your talkin\' out ya azz boi. Well, Mr. Know It All. I suppose we should bow to to you. You had it all figured out. You knew our offense would stuggle like it has. You knew Michael Lewis would not be the same. You knew that the all the players on defense would get hurt!!

While there was a little more reason to be pesimistic about, there wasn\'t much. Now, we got a few smug members who think they are geniuses !! Did you call Reed in Philly and let him know what was up too?

When someone says everything sucks there\'s always that chance they will be right about something !!

lumm0x · 10-01-2003, 07:01 PM

I can deal with WhoDat, FWtex, 08, etc. since they were at least calling the defense and Brook\'s leadership into question in the offseason and the preseason. Like myself, I\'m sure they would be glad to be at 4-0 and sporting the number one D and O, but unfortunately that isn\'t the position. The OriginalSwampdog on the other hand flies in here like the second coming of Jesus with his \"I\'m the original Saints fan\" and crystal ball calls prophecizing what just happened yesterday. This guy is intolerable. Where were you 6 months ago? Where were you last year? Earn some credibility first buddy. I didn\'t like Billy when he first came in here because he was brash and arrogantly opinionated, but over time he proved he could intellegently talk some football and defend his beliefs without resorting to idiocy. You haven\'t. You have grabbed a side in an arguement and talked smack. That\'s it. You\'ve brought nothin in here but attitude, and the smack serves to simply reduce your credibility since you\'ve earned none.
No one, in here or in the media, predicted the Saints offense would struggle, or that our special teams would be poor. Many posters had skepticism of how the defense could improve with so many new faces, and expected to see a similar defense as last season as a result. What have you ever said in here that gives you any bragging rights? Why do you even like the Saints? Go be a winner in Tampa if we suck so much.

[Edited on 1/10/2003 by lumm0x]

BlackandBlue · 10-01-2003, 07:21 PM

BillyCarpenter1 · 10-01-2003, 07:44 PM

I didn\'t like Billy when he first came in here because he was brash and arrogantly opinionated,

It was Gatorman\'s fault. He was a bad influence on me.

Besides, it was the off season and it WAS fun for a while but I came in here too wide open!!

[Edited on 1/10/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

BlackandBlue · 10-01-2003, 07:58 PM

but I came in here too wide open!!

Not only that, but you also walked in right when we were looking for anyone to argue with, about anything. :P

10-01-2003, 02:04 PM	#11
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	An Open Letter to the Saints.... Buc -- Thanks for wishing us luck, but it\'s kind of an unwritten rule for me not wish anyone in our division any luck. I can understand your position, because it doesn\'t look like we are a threat to the Bucs right now. But for a Saints fan to be wishing a team in our division any luck right now is just unacceptable. What he should be doing is wishing the Saints luck and praying that every other team in the South doesn\'t win another game !! I\'d just don\'t respect fans like that!!
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209

10-01-2003, 02:05 PM	#12
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	An Open Letter to the Saints.... Listen, you two clowns. This Buc\'s fan came on here with the untmost respect. And I respect that. If you two could get your heads out of your asses long enough, you\'d realize that the Bucs are everything we aspire to be. There were once the epitome of losing and now, have made themselves into a model franchise. We should envy them, not despise them. And if you two genius\' think they we have a chinaman\'s chance in hell of beating the Bucs this season, I\'d be more than happy to take your bets.

10-01-2003, 04:06 PM	#13
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	An Open Letter to the Saints.... Tweeky, surely you can\'t meean the size of that ring? LOL. It does help if we keep the photos to a smaller size and I would ask all to please try to keep it down sized a bit.

10-01-2003, 04:51 PM	#14
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	An Open Letter to the Saints.... Great post Buc. I will disagree with one thing. Haz is not a has-been, he\'s a never was. Meuller did bring in Brooks, Blake, and Horn in his first year. However, much of the rest of Haslett\'s 2000 campaign was done with hold-overs from the Ditka era. I do find it interesting that Billy has done a complete 180, with the exception of Brooks of course. That\'s OK Billy - next time, just try to listen more than you talk, and take others\' thoughts into consideration even if they stand in contrast to your own. I\'m not talking about me. There were a lot of other people on this board that gave you plenty of reason to question the defense, to question Haslett, etc. Maybe you should listen to even your staunchest opponents. Some of us do know a thing or two about football you know?
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

10-01-2003, 04:52 PM	#15
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	An Open Letter to the Saints.... Antagonistic! enough. [Edited on 2/10/2003 by JOESAM2002]

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10-01-2003, 06:31 PM	#16
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	An Open Letter to the Saints.... WhoDat -- Your talkin\' out ya azz boi. Well, Mr. Know It All. I suppose we should bow to to you. You had it all figured out. You knew our offense would stuggle like it has. You knew Michael Lewis would not be the same. You knew that the all the players on defense would get hurt!! While there was a little more reason to be pesimistic about, there wasn\'t much. Now, we got a few smug members who think they are geniuses !! Did you call Reed in Philly and let him know what was up too? When someone says everything sucks there\'s always that chance they will be right about something !!
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209

10-01-2003, 07:01 PM	#17
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	An Open Letter to the Saints.... I can deal with WhoDat, FWtex, 08, etc. since they were at least calling the defense and Brook\'s leadership into question in the offseason and the preseason. Like myself, I\'m sure they would be glad to be at 4-0 and sporting the number one D and O, but unfortunately that isn\'t the position. The OriginalSwampdog on the other hand flies in here like the second coming of Jesus with his \"I\'m the original Saints fan\" and crystal ball calls prophecizing what just happened yesterday. This guy is intolerable. Where were you 6 months ago? Where were you last year? Earn some credibility first buddy. I didn\'t like Billy when he first came in here because he was brash and arrogantly opinionated, but over time he proved he could intellegently talk some football and defend his beliefs without resorting to idiocy. You haven\'t. You have grabbed a side in an arguement and talked smack. That\'s it. You\'ve brought nothin in here but attitude, and the smack serves to simply reduce your credibility since you\'ve earned none. No one, in here or in the media, predicted the Saints offense would struggle, or that our special teams would be poor. Many posters had skepticism of how the defense could improve with so many new faces, and expected to see a similar defense as last season as a result. What have you ever said in here that gives you any bragging rights? Why do you even like the Saints? Go be a winner in Tampa if we suck so much. [Edited on 1/10/2003 by lumm0x]

10-01-2003, 07:21 PM	#18
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10-01-2003, 07:44 PM	#19
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	An Open Letter to the Saints.... I didn\'t like Billy when he first came in here because he was brash and arrogantly opinionated, It was Gatorman\'s fault. He was a bad influence on me. Besides, it was the off season and it WAS fun for a while but I came in here too wide open!! [Edited on 1/10/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209

10-01-2003, 07:58 PM	#20
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	An Open Letter to the Saints.... but I came in here too wide open!! Not only that, but you also walked in right when we were looking for anyone to argue with, about anything. :P