He pissed a lot of people off, including me. It's bad enough a Saints player goes over to enemy territory, but a Saints quarterback and local boy...thats just not right. And a lot of people still have not forgiven, nor will they ever forgive him for that.

huh?

are you by any chance my second wife?

LOL...i dont see why we lost rep..thats kinda unfair..

How much you wanna bet the other 32 teams have guys in their HOF's that aren't top 50 or top 100 or hell even top 10? 10 bucks? A hundred? Wanna look that up? Oh, and you have to use their whole career, not just one game or one season.

We had a GOOD offense with Brooks, and we typically needed to outscore people because in general our defenses weren't that good.

good thread. lively discussion. seems like a crazy topic on the surface, but then you think again.

I wouldnt call Brooks mediocre. Think of the times we WISHED we had someone with his ability. Had he lived up to his potential, there's no telling how far we could have gone.

This was directed at SkyMike...

Fine. I guess my verbosity was too much for you to handle. I remember you going off about being offended by someone's racy avatar. It offended your values instilled by Jesus or Zeus or whichever sky goblin you follow. And you were trying to stop people from saying/showing something they liked, I just said I found the notion offensive. Since I'm obviously not going to be able to get past your hypocrisy to reach your reason let me just reduce it to a "screw you" and move on.

Screw you. And, moving on...

Obviously you don't know the real SkyMike. Did he pee on your fence?

This thread has FIVE STARS, 182 posts and 3300 views. At this pace, it will easily break a record.

So, since other teams have allowed shabby players into their HoF we should too, instead of trying to make it an institution for our GREAT players. You work for the government, don't you?

No, we typically needed to outscore people due to MATHEMATICS! A GOOD defense can allow 3 points a game, and guess what, we still need to outscore the other team to win.

This is why Brooks should not be in. He didn't have ability, he had UNTAPPED potential.

He pissed a lot of people off, including me. It's bad enough a Saints player goes over to enemy territory, but a Saints quarterback and local boy...thats just not right. And a lot of people still have not forgiven, nor will they ever forgive him for that.

Billy Kilmer is in our HOF. In four seasons the threw 11, 17, 17, and...wait for it...17 interceptions. Do you even KNOW who is in our HOF? Not being #1 does not equal shabby - or did YOUR sky god tell you different? Maybe you need a definition of terms? Then again, I don't really think it's that hard...for most people anyway.

That's the dumbest and probably the most short-sighted antagonistic thing I've read in at least the last 10 posts. Care to guess how many games we won 6-3? Can I get a "DOUCHEBAG" from the congregation? Maybe you can go back and look at the points given up by our Defense while Brooks was here - and get back to me on how many times we allowed 3 points a game. Ignorance is bliss ain't it?

He had the 'ability' to do many things, and did those things quite well, and as the team around him diminished so too did his numbers and the fortunes of those teams. Manning, Kilmer, and Hebert. I wonder if Manning had the potential to do great things only his position on some horrible teams didn't allow for it? That's where you judge Brooks, unless you're just being an -sucker

which begs the question...If you are so offended by this thread that your drop by everyone's profile and ding them rep, why are you even posting in this thread?

Long Walk. Short Pier. Have a nice ing day, tard.

On the Saints, not being #1 DOES equal shabby, for the most part.

Also, Billy Kilmer being in shouldn't mean Brooks should get in, it means Kilmer should be kicked out.

Saint Michael is right, you do love answering questions that weren't asked and responding to statements that were not made.

I never said we ever won any games 6-3. "Our defense was so bad we typically had to outscore the other team to win" is a retarded statement. There is NOTHING shortsighted about saying you ALWAYS need to outscore the other team to win. But, if you don't know that, I will take you on your word that ignorance is bliss. You seem to be an expert on the subject of ignorance, so I won't argue that.

Archie was being held back by the incompetence of his teams. AB's teams were being held back by the incompetence of AB.

Because the responses to the subject are interesting. I never said it was so offensive it made my skin crawl and just hearing AB and SHOF in the same sentence was akin to hearing nails on a blackboard. I just said it was offensive.

If you don't like it when people who disagree with you take away Rep points, talk to Halo about it. I didn't put the system in. Don't blame me for that. I didn't make anyone say anything I didn't agree with. If everyone is that worried about a Rep point they should just not post anything at all, and no rep will ever be removed from them.

PS, you get -1 rep for calling me a -sucker and a tard.

Not because I care about you calling me names, but because you didn't have the balls to actually call me the names without the censor marks. Some people talk the talk without walking the walk. You can't even talk the talk!