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spkb25 06-02-2010 01:45 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
The answer is, quite frankly, no. He is a moron, and I hate him.

Okay, I am playing a little up there, but honesty, no- I don't care about his stats- well look @ this, and this isn't even his best


someone post the backward pass

skymike 06-02-2010 04:19 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 228621)
The answer is, quite frankly, no. He is a moron, and I hate him.

lol..Well thats one way to say it. Its Spike with news and commentary. The opinions expressed are not necessarily....

st thomas 06-02-2010 04:51 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 228621)
The answer is, quite frankly, no. He is a moron, and I hate him.

Okay, I am playing a little up there, but honesty, no- I don't care about his stats- well look @ this, and this isn't even his best

YouTube - Reggie Hayward 76 Yard Interception, Broncos at Saints, Week 11, 2004

someone post the backward pass

did ya see the guy on the tackle he flew by and made the stop ,love it.

HintOfLogic 06-03-2010 03:15 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
good question, lot's of good points made here.... all my opinions have been covered. I voted Yes.

I started to resent Brooks towards the end of his career because I went to almost every camp opened to public and watched Delhomme blow everyone's minds.... then to show up in preseason and show nothing but leadership qualities and winner tangibles.... only to go back to carrying clipboards behind a declining Brooks towards the end.

Aside from that, Aaron was a huge part of our history, many great memories, many painful.... but, he was a great player on one of the few winning season Saints teams. Like Hebert, he had great times, he had ugly times. His demise was unnecessarily prolonged by Haslett.

Memnoch_TP 06-03-2010 05:15 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 228442)
The Mod Nazi's strike again.

Why isn't this a perfectly fair question? As of right now
this tread has 47 post with 485 views. For a Tuesday, it
has kept people interested in the board which was my
intention no matter how difficult the subject matter was
to stomach.

Oh well now that you have spun it your way, I feel bad. No, wait, I don't. That was just gas.

Were I a Nazi, I would have stopped you from asking the question, I did not. I gave you negative Rep for asking such an offensive question, which is well within my rights.

So, are you trying to say that all topics you start are not because you are interested in the topic, but just to promote activity on the board? And on top of that you should not be at all held accountable for your post because you brought activity to the board with your offensive question? So in response you brand me of the same ilk as a band of some of the most notorious mass murderers in the history of our civilization?

What is your next post going to be? "I think Jeremy Shockey masturbates to Gay Porno!"? That should get a ton of attention on the board.

No, I don't think it works like that. There is only one thing for you to do with that opinion, and that is scratch some sand on it, cat man.


Also, I totally acknowledge that our Defense sucked in the A.B. era. It did, and if the defense would have been better we would have won a lot more games and we would have been playoff contenders every year.

That does NOT mean that A.B. didn't suck, and it does not mean A.B. didn't throw away a lot of games through stupidity or incompetence. Because he did. 17 come from behind victories? They were always behind anyway. That is almost half his total wins! That isn't a statistic, that is a circumstance.

Archie is beloved because even though his stats sucked he had talent and heart. All AB has are stats padded with garbage yards and winning one important game. Frankly, I think winning that playoff game hurt us in the long run, because if A.B. had lost that game then I think Jeff Blake would had a better chance of taking us to the playoffs the next year, and perhaps years beyond.

His post career accolades should reflect his career. A.B. was not a Hall-of-Famer, he was a statistic. A name etched briefly at the top of a few statistical records, but long enough for his memory to, unfortunately, linger.

strato 06-03-2010 07:21 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Memnoch_TP (Post 228704)
Oh well now that you have spun it your way, I feel bad. No, wait, I don't. That was just gas.

Were I a Nazi, I would have stopped you from asking the question, I did not. I gave you negative Rep for asking such an offensive question, which is well within my rights.

So, are you trying to say that all topics you start are not because you are interested in the topic, but just to promote activity on the board? And on top of that you should not be at all held accountable for your post because you brought activity to the board with your offensive question? So in response you brand me of the same ilk as a band of some of the most notorious mass murderers in the history of our civilization?

What is your next post going to be? "I think Jeremy Shockey masturbates to Gay Porno!"? That should get a ton of attention on the board.

No, I don't think it works like that. There is only one thing for you to do with that opinion, and that is scratch some sand on it, cat man.


Also, I totally acknowledge that our Defense sucked in the A.B. era. It did, and if the defense would have been better we would have won a lot more games and we would have been playoff contenders every year.

That does NOT mean that A.B. didn't suck, and it does not mean A.B. didn't throw away a lot of games through stupidity or incompetence. Because he did. 17 come from behind victories? They were always behind anyway. That is almost half his total wins! That isn't a statistic, that is a circumstance.

Archie is beloved because even though his stats sucked he had talent and heart. All AB has are stats padded with garbage yards and winning one important game. Frankly, I think winning that playoff game hurt us in the long run, because if A.B. had lost that game then I think Jeff Blake would had a better chance of taking us to the playoffs the next year, and perhaps years beyond.

His post career accolades should reflect his career. A.B. was not a Hall-of-Famer, he was a statistic. A name etched briefly at the top of a few statistical records, but long enough for his memory to, unfortunately, linger.

+1 rep for u..lol

skymike 06-03-2010 08:30 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
This is an "offensive question?" --to which group of hyphenated-Americans?

I dont like Aaron Brooks either, but I wouldnt call any of this "offensive."
--seemed to be a rather interesting discussion, to me, not to mention roughly half at this time have responded "yes."

Let me know what other topics are forbidden.

foreverfan 06-03-2010 09:04 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Memnoch_TP (Post 228704)
So, are you trying to say that all topics you start are not because you are interested in the topic, but just to promote activity on the board? And on top of that you should not be at all held accountable for your post because you brought activity to the board with your offensive question? So in response you brand me of the same ilk as a band of some of the most notorious mass murderers in the history of our civilization?

So wait... do I get my REP point back? :goodidea:
Actually I thought your original post that took a REP point away was funny.
I laughed when you stole a point from Strato too. LOL

Brooks in the Saints HOF was brought up by Bobby Hebert on the radio 870AM the other day and the reaction was split. I thought it would be a good offseason subject and create some activity and I was right.

Brooks treads are always controversial. People tend to forget that he had 4 pretty good years. Plus with no defense, you were always playing from behind. The 17 come from behind victories was mainly because of him. As you point out, we had no defense. People could just pin their ears back. The real problems came when Mike McCarthy went to coach Green Bay. That's when Brooks and the whole offensive team fell apart. I remember in his final 2 years, he had 2 seconds to get rid of the ball and that was on slow motion.

:bng:

Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 228728)
This is an "offensive question?" --to which group of hyphenated-Americans?

I dont like Aaron Brooks either, but I wouldnt call any of this "offensive."
--seemed to be a rather interesting discussion, to me, not to mention roughly half at this time have responded "yes."

Let me know what other topics are forbidden.

Thanks..... :D

CantonLegend 06-03-2010 09:06 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
WHAT!? the saints werent any good? when?.....i dont believe it

73Saint 06-03-2010 09:08 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Skymike, your Avatar made me forget what this freaking thread was about!! Jeesh!!

foreverfan 06-03-2010 09:12 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Skymike's avatar make Strato's avatar look like a dog.
We need another thread. LOL

strato 06-03-2010 04:02 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
All bow to Stratos Avi...FF urs is looking more doggish than ever..lol...See i started a trend.....its called class...lol....

strato 06-03-2010 04:05 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
MT got that catboy...lol....See FF you should have started a thread like mine..who should be in..not A.B..lmao...you will learn..

skymike 06-03-2010 04:08 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 228737)
...The 17 come from behind victories was mainly because of him. ...:bng:

Really? I didnt know we had 17 come from behind victories under Brooks. Cheese, I dont remember one come back victory in the 80s. I still dont like Brooks, but that stat alone is pretty damn compelling, thus making your thread even less "offensive."

I dont care anything about "rep," but I'll give you some crawtators.
Quote:

Originally Posted by rfenasci (Post 228740)
Skymike, your Avatar made me forget what this freaking thread was about!! Jeesh!!

I know, them things suck the thoughts right out of my head. Take a close look. They're real.

Im only using her to appease FF and his continuing plea for nudie girl avatars. When football season comes, he's gonna have to do my theme-- wives in Saints gear.

foreverfan 06-03-2010 04:52 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
I don't know who to laugh at more.

strato 06-03-2010 04:56 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 228796)
I don't know who to laugh at more.

LOL..laughing at yourself is good medicine..and starting these forbidden threads aint nothin to laugh at...lol....J/K

skymike 06-03-2010 05:11 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Yeah, FF, you're just sensationalizing with your cheap, attention-grabbing, Geraldo Riveraesque headlines. So Im gonna have to punish you. Cmon, put your head between these, and go BLBLBLBLBLBLBL!

Memnoch_TP 06-04-2010 12:54 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 228728)
This is an "offensive question?" --to which group of hyphenated-Americans?

I dont like Aaron Brooks either, but I wouldnt call any of this "offensive."
--seemed to be a rather interesting discussion, to me, not to mention roughly half at this time have responded "yes."

Let me know what other topics are forbidden.

Again, I didn't say it was forbidden, I just said it was offensive. As for which group of hyphenated Americans... Calling me politically correct is about as inaccurate as you can get. I still maintain the right to be offended, just as I maintain the right to offend people. Stating that I found the subject matter offensive does not equate to me attempting to ban the subject.

That touchy reaction I got from you though, it was almost like YOU were offended by my being offended. Why is it okay for you to express your displeasure at my expression of my displeasure, yet my initial expression of displeasure was bad?



Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 228737)
So wait... do I get my REP point back?

No.


Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 228737)
Brooks in the Saints HOF was brought up by Bobby Hebert on the radio 870AM the other day and the reaction was split.

-1 Rep for Bobby Hebert.

foreverfan 06-04-2010 03:24 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
No matter how easily offended you may be, this subject will come up again. As this poll shows, fans are split right down the middle on the subject. There are certainly other players that deserve to go. If Brooks doesn't make it in the next 5 years, I'd say he's toast.

Saint_LB 06-04-2010 03:34 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Went looking for something, found this...

http://blackandgold.com/saints/1678-...ed-unfair.html

skymike 06-04-2010 06:53 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Memnoch_TP (Post 228859)
That touchy reaction I got from you though, it was almost like YOU were offended by my being offended. Why is it okay for you to express your displeasure at my expression of my displeasure, yet my initial expression of displeasure was bad? blahblablah.... nyanyanenenene... no, dammit, just get out and ask for directions....

huh?

are you by any chance my second wife?

rich006 06-04-2010 08:35 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Hall of Fame, yes.

Hall of Leadership, no.

Hall of Decision Making, also no.

foreverfan 06-04-2010 08:53 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 228803)
Yeah, FF, you're just sensationalizing with your cheap, attention-grabbing, Geraldo Riveraesque headlines. So Im gonna have to punish you. Cmon, put your head between these, and go BLBLBLBLBLBLBL!



http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...0051965049.jpg

strato 06-04-2010 08:59 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
LOL...i dont see why we lost rep..thats kinda unfair..

skymike 06-05-2010 10:38 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 228910)

oh I like this.....haha....

Does anybody know any good sketch artists. I need a caracature drawn for a business card. I have a great idea for my side business, but I cant find an artist.

So we lost "rep?" strato? Is that bad? Should I be concerned?

QBREES9 06-05-2010 09:16 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
No No No No No No. Tell Us how you really feel. No No No

TheDeuce 06-06-2010 09:46 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
I voted no. Any player who laughs when we get eliminated from playoff contention does not deserve to be in the HOF.

foreverfan 06-06-2010 10:30 AM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...5189029353.jpg

QBREES9 06-06-2010 02:47 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
No !!! Just SAY NO. Lets end this right now

UK_WhoDat 06-06-2010 07:44 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Should he? No. He annoyed me big time with his high profile errors.

QBREES9 06-06-2010 09:26 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
He's Mike ( Con ) Vick, Cuz Where is he today ???

foreverfan 06-06-2010 10:30 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 229142)
He's Mike ( Con ) Vick, Cuz Where is he today ???

http://cinematicallycorrect.files.wo...l-vick-dog.jpg

st thomas 06-06-2010 10:55 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 229146)

i choked, woke wife up ,got yelled at and still LMAO AT THIS PIC.

foreverfan 06-07-2010 02:17 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 229152)
i choked, woke wife up ,got yelled at and still LMAO AT THIS PIC.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HOMUfz5TaK...icoWithHat.jpg

iceshack149 06-07-2010 02:34 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Ron Mexico. That family is blessed with athleticism but lack brains for sure.

Saint_LB 06-07-2010 02:47 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 229146)


VillainAgain 06-07-2010 03:25 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Players get into their respective HOF's because they had great statistical careers Brooks had such is #2 in the Saints Record books so he should get in because he had a great career. Archie Manning wasnt half as good as the media portrays the guy has more TO's then Brooks if you will bash Brooks then Bash Archie. Archie Manning threw 48 more Ints then TD's Brooks threw 31 More TD's then Ints Archie also had his share of fumbles dont blame his poor preformance on a bad team he was under center. Brooks only had 1 bad season via Katrina.

saintfan 06-07-2010 03:50 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VillainAgain (Post 229229)
Players get into their respective HOF's because they had great statistical careers Brooks had such is #2 in the Saints Record books so he should get in because he had a great career. Archie Manning wasnt half as good as the media portrays the guy has more TO's then Brooks if you will bash Brooks then Bash Archie. Archie Manning threw 48 more Ints then TD's Brooks threw 31 More TD's then Ints Archie also had his share of fumbles dont blame his poor preformance on a bad team he was under center. Brooks only had 1 bad season via Katrina.

There is a STRONG bias against Brooks - fueled in large part by the fact the Jake Delhomme was on the roster at the time. There isn't much in the arguments against Brooks that can't be successfully countered, but there are those that simply hate the guy "because he smiled after a bad play" or whatever.

Brooks is smarter than half the guys bashing him and more athletic than the other half. He held his head up through it all though. He was a good QB here, and it's sad there are so many people that can't (or won't) see that.

Danno 06-07-2010 04:33 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 229233)
There is a STRONG bias against Brooks - fueled in large part by the fact the Jake Delhomme was on the roster at the time. There isn't much in the arguments against Brooks that can't be successfully countered, but there are those that simply hate the guy "because he smiled after a bad play" or whatever.

Brooks is smarter than half the guys bashing him and more athletic than the other half. He held his head up through it all though. He was a good QB here, and it's sad there are so many people that can't (or won't) see that.

^ THIS

strato 06-07-2010 04:44 PM

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 229233)
There is a STRONG bias against Brooks - fueled in large part by the fact the Jake Delhomme was on the roster at the time. There isn't much in the arguments against Brooks that can't be successfully countered, but there are those that simply hate the guy "because he smiled after a bad play" or whatever.

Brooks is smarter than half the guys bashing him and more athletic than the other half. He held his head up through it all though. He was a good QB here, and it's sad there are so many people that can't (or won't) see that.

You know me SF magnet for controversy..but i can remember a lot of racial hatred for Brooks from some saints fans and it made me sick...


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