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Bitter? What a laugh. You are the one who has thrown out the hate talk. Try looking in the mirror. I guess having your arguments crushed would do that to you. Hmm, lets see. Having a player contibute to our team for 5 years and be our leading passer (Brooks) is more valuable than a guy who contributes for 3 (Everett). Are you really going to argue against that? Hmm lets see, I never mentioned a free agent. But JE was a Pro Bowl QB for the Rams and beat us many times as a Ram. His best days as a QB were for the Rams and he built his legacy as a Ram. He then came over to us to finish his career. Contrast (go aheah and look that up in a dictionary) this to Brooks who was not a starter for another team before us. He never beat us as a memeber of another team. His best days as a QB were not as a member of another team. Try to put two and two togeather from here and figure out why this makes Brooks more important as a saint then JE. You may need to pull your socks off and use your toes, but that's OK. The third one is a little trickier, but I'll walk you through it. If Blake does not get hurt in week 12, then Brooks does not get to sub for him in 2000. If he does not sub for him, then he does not play in the 2000 playoffs. If he does not play in the game, then he does not get to help the team win the game. If he does not help win the game, he may not be given the chance to be our starting QB for the next 5 seasons. So it was fortunate (i.e. Lucky...as in lucked out) that he even got to play in the playoff game that you are so anxious to anoint him into our HOF for winning. If you try and think about it rather than simply insult it's not that tough. |
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I do wonder though about his potential too. With a better line around him and a group of WR's like we have now, how might things have been different for him? |
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The question was Brooks was more important, in ALL CAPS as you typed it, than Everette because... So lets try and make sense out of it answering in a complete sentence just like they taught us in grade school...one, two, three... Aaron Brooks was more important than Jim Everett to the Saints because Jeff Blake got hurt. --Dude that's just stupid Aaron Brooks was more important than Jim Everett to the Saints because he never played for another team, even though our BEST QB ever DID play for another team. Ig-No-Rant Aaron Brooks was more important than Jim Everett to the Saints because he played there longer. That 'almost' makes sense, until you think about how important a player can be in a very short time span. Then you see just how silly that statement really is. See Darren Sharper if you need help grasping this very simple idea...or Shockey...or Vilma...or...oh jeesh this is just too darn easy... Nice try tho... |
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[quote=saintfan;229415] [quote=SAINT_MICHAEL;229413]Really SF. Now you just look sad.
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Sorry. It's stupid. Brooks was more important than Everett for a lot of reasons, but Blake's injury isn't one of them. It is, the dumbest thing I've seen in a LONG time. Blake's injury was how Brooks got into the lineup, but it doesn't provide any evidence as to why he was more important to the team than any other player. Sorry man...that's just stupid...We're talking about Brooks and Everette and you bring up Blake? The more I think about it the dumber it sounds. Quote:
So now the player from the other team has to be that teams statistical leader in something before your argument kicks in? LOL I'm not freaking out, I'm LMAO. It is really that hard to say Sharper is important? I could look it up, but I'm fairly sure he's got some Vikings records. Sharper didn't build his legacy in New Orleans, so I guess he's not that important. There are TONS of other players that I could use as examples, on our team and on just about any other. Friend, the quickest way out of a hole is to stop digging, and you should put the shovel down. Quote:
Lets condense, shall we? Leadership: Questionable. This is where we agree. However, I've always argued that being a great leader is not a requirement, and certainly history proves that, so at the very least we agree that Brooks was not the greatest natural leader. Determination/Desire: I submit that growing up poor in Virginia amidst the same people and elements that put Mike Vick in his predicament, Getting a degree in Anthropology, becoming a starting NFL QB, winning our first playoff game...I don't think a person just lucks in to that. Talent helps, and he surely had talent, but he didn't just bliss out and wake up one day having done what he has done. Feel free to disagree, but provide some proof beyond the fact that you don't like his smile. Stats: Even you agree he has the numbers. Community: Although I think you were legitimately surprised to learn of Brooks' involvement with kids in New Orleans and elsewhere, I think you'll have to either check this one of on the positive or find something to solidify your position short of comparing him with Brees, since there are lots of players less charitable than Drew in the Saints HOF. What else you got? You wanna say that we shouldn't put him in because we don't have a very good history of having great players? I suggest the NFL doesn't look at it's HOF and say, "You know, we better not put player X in the HOF because someone better might come along." Instead you look at what a player did, stats, wins, meaningful wins, etc, and if you want to look at his community involvement then fine, you judge that player on those things. You don't take the best player a team ever had and hold every one to that standard. You don't require that he only played for your franchise. You don't say, "Well, he has to have played x number of years for your franchise." He doesn't have to have set NFL records. Lots of people here think the playoff win alone is justification. You clearly do not. That's ok, but with you it's a moving target with more stipulations than a government loan. :bng: |
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It could have been good..now:givemebeer: ...lol..
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There was definitely a cry for Delhomme...but it wasn't a local boy, fan favorite thing, IMO. It was that AB started stinking the joint-up, game after game...and probably some of it was due to injuries. For some reason they would no get him off the field when he could hardly throw a pass. That's why they wanted to see Jake. They didn't want to see melt-down after melt-down at the end of the season, which is what happened following the 2000 season.
I will admit to some of it being the local boy thing, and if I'm not mistaken, Jake was a prodigy (is that the right word) of Archie. It did play into it, but I'm contending that I was right there and it had nothing to do with my loyalty to Jake and everything to do with what was going on on the field and the desire to make a change of any sort that might get us that one extra win that we needed to get into the playoffs. |
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Again, Brooks had the best Career a Saints Qb had prior to Brees comming to town. Jake a prodigy of Archie is dead on Both Threw outrageous amounts of INTERCEPTIONS so jake must have been a good student. Who had a better career Marc Bulger or Rex Grossman????(your answer)______ _________ But Rex got to the Super Bowl, see how foolish that sounds? Super Bowll's are awesome thats why you play the game, but even a Blind Squirrel finds a nut some times
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He lost just as many games as he won. Anyone remember that Cinci game withthe playoffs on the line? |
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2 meltdowns in a row under Haz, Brooks, et al 1 season where we needed just 1 win against 3 straght losing teams and couldn't get it done. Remember, I said vaguely. I sure wish someone would take the time to give more details, cause now my curiosity is aroused. |
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2 years in a row!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Breesus Christ! That's way too many pages on a thread for a dude that really should not even be in the HOT.
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Yeah he will... Hey I had Brooks back.... back in the day He had some good games and I enjoyed watchin him sometimes... even tho that smile he did after a screw up made me soooo mad... He did what he did and give him his due he should be in the Saints HOF....
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I still have not decided. I've been watching this thread since it started, and I tell you what, it's a hard question. It's really a good question too. I remember watching him play and thinking this guy may actually give us a chance, just to be let down yet again and again and again.... So, like everyone here, I have terribly mixed feelings about Brooks. But I felt the same way about Bobby Hebert also.
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Fine. I guess my verbosity was too much for you to handle. I remember you going off about being offended by someone's racy avatar. It offended your values instilled by Jesus or Zeus or whichever sky goblin you follow. And you were trying to stop people from saying/showing something they liked, I just said I found the notion offensive. Since I'm obviously not going to be able to get past your hypocrisy to reach your reason let me just reduce it to a "screw you" and move on. Screw you. And, moving on... Quote:
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LOL ...the Memnoch strikes again....
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This thread has FIVE STARS, 182 posts and 2300 views. At this pace, it will easily break a record. :bng: |
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Long Walk. Short Pier. Have a nice :censored:ing day, :censored:tard. :bng: |
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Also, Billy Kilmer being in shouldn't mean Brooks should get in, it means Kilmer should be kicked out. Quote:
Saint Michael is right, you do love answering questions that weren't asked and responding to statements that were not made. I never said we ever won any games 6-3. "Our defense was so bad we typically had to outscore the other team to win" is a retarded statement. There is NOTHING shortsighted about saying you ALWAYS need to outscore the other team to win. But, if you don't know that, I will take you on your word that ignorance is bliss. You seem to be an expert on the subject of ignorance, so I won't argue that. Quote:
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If you don't like it when people who disagree with you take away Rep points, talk to Halo about it. I didn't put the system in. Don't blame me for that. I didn't make anyone say anything I didn't agree with. If everyone is that worried about a Rep point they should just not post anything at all, and no rep will ever be removed from them. PS, you get -1 rep for calling me a :censored:-sucker and a :censored:tard. Not because I care about you calling me names, but because you didn't have the balls to actually call me the names without the censor marks. Some people talk the talk without walking the walk. You can't even talk the talk! |
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Oh, you're still a :censored:-sucker and a :censored:tard...and you're also an :censored:-hole too. How much minus rep is all that worth? :doh: |
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you might want to lay off the hallucinogens, honey. Have you looked at my avatar? Those are called t**s. God invented them. Shut the **** up. You should take your trollage back to SR, before we vote you off the island. oh yeah... way to go Foreverfan (Who also Loves hot women) ---- Five Star Thread!!! The People have spoken. wtf is a "menmnock anyway? I guess I dont watch enough Sci Fi channel... |
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Is there something in the water?
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Sky Goblin??? |
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The "TP" is clearly for Toilet Paper, although "DB", for douchebag would be equally appropriate. |
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Ya'll some sittin-on-the-sideline-popcorn-eatin sons of :censored:es.
Note the clever use of the 'censored' smiley. Is he smiling? Is he angry? Will he ever reveal his true nature? |
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Maybe I need to "Lighten up Francis". |
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