Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal

06-20-2010, 07:08 AM

We are guaranteed something, we were guaranteed nothing for him before. Yeah, wish it would have been for a higher pick, but that is just a wish. There were obviously no takers for anything better, so it's a good deal because it's better than no deal.

CheramieIII · 06-20-2010, 08:01 AM

I agree that at least we got something for him and he was a cancer on the team. I was only trying to point out that some people who think they know everything about everything aren't right all the time either. Come on over to the darkside once in a while and for those who were on the darkside in this debate my hats off to you. I stay on the darkside baby and you know this man!

nevergiveup3 · 06-20-2010, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

All JB was worth was what somebody was willing to pay.

A voice of reason and logic.... Good post.... The conventional wisdom was that we held all the cards with JB. Not so... He could have held out until week 5.. signed his tender and showed up out of shape.... Then at the end of the year he was free and we got nothing..

GM's around the league knew this so all they had to do was sit back and wait... I have a 2000 conversion van that is in excellent shape... blue book is $6500... Im asking $5700... no buyers... so the blue book thus far is wrong.... if somebody offers $5000 I will probably take it... thats the MARKET value... what someone is WILLING to pay...Loomis got MARKET value... not what we would like but its what the market would be willing to pay...

SmashMouth · 06-20-2010, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by nevergiveup3

A voice of reason and logic.... Good post.... The conventional wisdom was that we held all the cards with JB. Not so... He could have held out until week 5.. signed his tender and showed up out of shape.... Then at the end of the year he was free and we got nothing..

GM's around the league knew this so all they had to do was sit back and wait... I have a 2000 conversion van that is in excellent shape... blue book is $6500... Im asking $5700... no buyers... so the blue book thus far is wrong.... if somebody offers $5000 I will probably take it... thats the MARKET value... what someone is WILLING to pay...Loomis got MARKET value... not what we would like but its what the market would be willing to pay...

FF's got a white pickup he can sell ya ... low miles!!!!!

I don't get the give backs on draft picks .... Jammal's knees must be in worse physical shape than we know.

CantonLegend · 06-20-2010, 11:27 AM

brown isnt a cancer.....a cancer is someone who destroys a team and the relationships in the locker room

all brown did was want more money.....he held out and didnt show up which is a poor business and professional decision and it shows immaturity IMO

but a cancer? really? you guys are blowing this way out of proportion trying to pretend like the trade was the only thing to do

this trade was a mistake.....we lost our best offensive lineman in favor of a draft pick next year? why would we want a draft pick when we have a proven player at the most important position on the line. a pick is a gamble....whereas brown is the real thing

threads like this make me wonder if you guys know the importance of a talented offensive line

CantonLegend · 06-20-2010, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

It's over he's gone. What happen if he get hurts again and miss most of the year again. Then what.

what happens if hes all pro?

biloxi-indian · 06-20-2010, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

brown isnt a cancer.....a cancer is someone who destroys a team and the relationships in the locker room

all brown did was want more money.....he held out and didnt show up which is a poor business and professional decision and it shows immaturity IMO

but a cancer? really? you guys are blowing this way out of proportion trying to pretend like the trade was the only thing to do

this trade was a mistake.....we lost our best offensive lineman in favor of a draft pick next year? why would we want a draft pick when we have a proven player at the most important position on the line. a pick is a gamble....whereas brown is the real thing

threads like this make me wonder if you guys know the importance of a talented offensive line

A legend in one's own mind!

CheramieIII · 06-20-2010, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

brown isnt a cancer.....a cancer is someone who destroys a team and the relationships in the locker room

all brown did was want more money.....he held out and didnt show up which is a poor business and professional decision and it shows immaturity IMO

but a cancer? really? you guys are blowing this way out of proportion trying to pretend like the trade was the only thing to do

this trade was a mistake.....we lost our best offensive lineman in favor of a draft pick next year? why would we want a draft pick when we have a proven player at the most important position on the line. a pick is a gamble....whereas brown is the real thing

threads like this make me wonder if you guys know the importance of a talented offensive line

Cancer starts with 1 bad cell (something really small). You say yourself it showed a lack of professionalism and maturity, so I assume you're saying we want that on the team? Yes, it was a bad trade and I would've made him honor his damn contract and shut the hell up or fine him every chance I got but the team obviously knows more than the both of us or they would've made the trade.

SmashMouth · 06-20-2010, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

what happens if hes all pro?

He WAS an all pro ... time will tell IF he ever is again.... We all hope for the best. A Willie Roaf he is not, for sure. And btw ... how much did the Saints get for Willie in a trade to KC? A fourth comes to mind as well. It'll be interesting to see how JB performs with Super5 under center.

strato · 06-20-2010, 02:40 PM

Wow been away a few days and Brown gets traded..didnt have Sirius in the sons Honda..lol..oh well i was hoping we would hold out for a 2nd rd pick for him...Im hoping Bushrod and the coaching staff have a better game against D,Ware this yr...i want my bragging rights back here in Tx as the Cowgirl killers..lol...well goodluck J.B in Washington except against us and heres to our new J.B which i think is better at runblocking and gets less holding calls... getting even better this yr!..and dont forget we have Charlie Brown...lol..

06-20-2010, 07:08 AM	#41
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06-20-2010, 08:01 AM	#42
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal I agree that at least we got something for him and he was a cancer on the team. I was only trying to point out that some people who think they know everything about everything aren't right all the time either. Come on over to the darkside once in a while and for those who were on the darkside in this debate my hats off to you. I stay on the darkside baby and you know this man!

06-20-2010, 10:22 AM	#43
nevergiveup3 100th Post Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 101	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by foreverfan All JB was worth was what somebody was willing to pay. A voice of reason and logic.... Good post.... The conventional wisdom was that we held all the cards with JB. Not so... He could have held out until week 5.. signed his tender and showed up out of shape.... Then at the end of the year he was free and we got nothing.. GM's around the league knew this so all they had to do was sit back and wait... I have a 2000 conversion van that is in excellent shape... blue book is $6500... Im asking $5700... no buyers... so the blue book thus far is wrong.... if somebody offers $5000 I will probably take it... thats the MARKET value... what someone is WILLING to pay...Loomis got MARKET value... not what we would like but its what the market would be willing to pay...
nevergiveup3 100th Post Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 101

06-20-2010, 10:47 AM	#44
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by nevergiveup3 A voice of reason and logic.... Good post.... The conventional wisdom was that we held all the cards with JB. Not so... He could have held out until week 5.. signed his tender and showed up out of shape.... Then at the end of the year he was free and we got nothing.. GM's around the league knew this so all they had to do was sit back and wait... I have a 2000 conversion van that is in excellent shape... blue book is $6500... Im asking $5700... no buyers... so the blue book thus far is wrong.... if somebody offers $5000 I will probably take it... thats the MARKET value... what someone is WILLING to pay...Loomis got MARKET value... not what we would like but its what the market would be willing to pay... FF's got a white pickup he can sell ya ... low miles!!!!! I don't get the give backs on draft picks .... Jammal's knees must be in worse physical shape than we know.

06-20-2010, 11:27 AM	#45
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal brown isnt a cancer.....a cancer is someone who destroys a team and the relationships in the locker room all brown did was want more money.....he held out and didnt show up which is a poor business and professional decision and it shows immaturity IMO but a cancer? really? you guys are blowing this way out of proportion trying to pretend like the trade was the only thing to do this trade was a mistake.....we lost our best offensive lineman in favor of a draft pick next year? why would we want a draft pick when we have a proven player at the most important position on the line. a pick is a gamble....whereas brown is the real thing threads like this make me wonder if you guys know the importance of a talented offensive line
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06-20-2010, 11:28 AM	#46
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by QBREES9 It's over he's gone. What happen if he get hurts again and miss most of the year again. Then what. what happens if hes all pro?

06-20-2010, 11:35 AM	#47
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by CantonLegend brown isnt a cancer.....a cancer is someone who destroys a team and the relationships in the locker room all brown did was want more money.....he held out and didnt show up which is a poor business and professional decision and it shows immaturity IMO but a cancer? really? you guys are blowing this way out of proportion trying to pretend like the trade was the only thing to do this trade was a mistake.....we lost our best offensive lineman in favor of a draft pick next year? why would we want a draft pick when we have a proven player at the most important position on the line. a pick is a gamble....whereas brown is the real thing threads like this make me wonder if you guys know the importance of a talented offensive line A legend in one's own mind!

06-20-2010, 11:36 AM	#48
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by CantonLegend brown isnt a cancer.....a cancer is someone who destroys a team and the relationships in the locker room all brown did was want more money.....he held out and didnt show up which is a poor business and professional decision and it shows immaturity IMO but a cancer? really? you guys are blowing this way out of proportion trying to pretend like the trade was the only thing to do this trade was a mistake.....we lost our best offensive lineman in favor of a draft pick next year? why would we want a draft pick when we have a proven player at the most important position on the line. a pick is a gamble....whereas brown is the real thing threads like this make me wonder if you guys know the importance of a talented offensive line Cancer starts with 1 bad cell (something really small). You say yourself it showed a lack of professionalism and maturity, so I assume you're saying we want that on the team? Yes, it was a bad trade and I would've made him honor his damn contract and shut the hell up or fine him every chance I got but the team obviously knows more than the both of us or they would've made the trade.

06-20-2010, 11:45 AM	#49
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by CantonLegend what happens if hes all pro? He WAS an all pro ... time will tell IF he ever is again.... We all hope for the best. A Willie Roaf he is not, for sure. And btw ... how much did the Saints get for Willie in a trade to KC? A fourth comes to mind as well. It'll be interesting to see how JB performs with Super5 under center.

06-20-2010, 02:40 PM	#50
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Wow been away a few days and Brown gets traded..didnt have Sirius in the sons Honda..lol..oh well i was hoping we would hold out for a 2nd rd pick for him...Im hoping Bushrod and the coaching staff have a better game against D,Ware this yr...i want my bragging rights back here in Tx as the Cowgirl killers..lol...well goodluck J.B in Washington except against us and heres to our new J.B which i think is better at runblocking and gets less holding calls... getting even better this yr!..and dont forget we have Charlie Brown...lol..

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