Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal

06-20-2010, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Reminds me of Lecharles Bentley and where is he now?

Exactly. Bushrod had ONE bad game, against the cowboys, and now he's not as good as Brown? Give me a break.

Rugby Saint II · 06-21-2010, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Exactly. Bushrod had ONE bad game, against the cowboys, and now he's not as good as Brown? Give me a break.

So far he hasn't been as good as Brown. We succeeded with our backup last year but that was because of excellent coaching and schemes designed to give Bushrod help at LT. He has potential to get better but so do the people playing opposite him rushing the QB. Brown was good but not that good. I'm glad Brown's gone..........it would have been good to have him but the untimely penalties and injuries were just too costly.

CantonLegend · 06-21-2010, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

You know, I don't understand this infatuation with Brown, from some of the fans on here. He hasn't played a game, since 08, what exactly makes this guy so irreplaceable? Our best offensive lineman? With Bushrod last year, the Saints gave up the fewest sacks in the league I do believe. While leading the number one offense to a superbowl win. When we were discussing the re-signing of Sharper, people were jumping on him with both feet in here, calling him old and greedy, and "re-placeable", while sitting in the Jammal Brown section, talking about what a great player he is, and how we should keep him, no matter what the cost. DIDN'T PLAY THE ENTIRE SUPERBOWL SEASON, but he is the best o-linemen on the team. Am I the only one that finds this reasoning completely ludicrous? Good riddance, good bye Brown, and have a nice life. Should have been done before the draft this year.

just as ludicrous as saying we are better without him because we won the super bowl without him......or saying that bushrod is better and can carry his own weight because our offensive line as a whole gave up the fewest sacks in the league

neither of those arguments make any sense

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Exactly. Bushrod had ONE bad game, against the cowboys, and now he's not as good as Brown? Give me a break.

one bad game? nearly half of the sacks our offensive line gave up were from bushrod and several of the tackles for loss that we had were his fault as well

there isnt a single thing bushrod does better than brown and we are going to be hurting at tackle this season because of ignorance and lack of talent

saintsfan1976 · 06-21-2010, 10:12 AM

Look, the coaches knew there was a very good chance Jammal wouldn't be a Saint for much longer - it became clear to Brown when we drafted another LT. He wanted out and his wish was granted. JB's discontent wasn't drawn out and it didn't get ugly...what more could either side ask for???

It's time to start focusing on our future LT, Charles Brown. The kid has tremendous upside and should challenge Bushrod for the starting role.

With Jammal's departure, we're left with a solid/serviceable LT in Bushrod and a kid who could realistically be Brees' LT until he retires.

foreverfan · 06-21-2010, 10:17 AM

The Saints have a bunch of people who need to be paid
and making a mistake on Brown wasn't one luxury they could afford.

Injuries made him a little long in the tooth and the timing was right to go in another direction.

darstep · 06-21-2010, 11:37 AM

These kinds of things happen in the NFL. We'll never know if JB would have stepped back into his spot and shined like a new diamond. We'll have to wait on Bushrod's follow up performance and wait to see if McNabb is getting his head taken off in Washington. Brown did his job while he was in Black&Gold...ThankYou Sir! Live well and prosper until we have to see you again. If young Brown beats out Bushrod then that's a plus. If young Brown forces Bushrod to raise his level of play to keep his job, then that's a plus. Hopefully everybody wins from this one.

Budsdrinker · 06-21-2010, 02:04 PM

Redskins Insider - Q&A with Jammal Brown

voodooido · 06-21-2010, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

just as ludicrous as saying we are better without him because we won the super bowl without him......or saying that bushrod is better and can carry his own weight because our offensive line as a whole gave up the fewest sacks in the league

neither of those arguments make any sense

one bad game? nearly half of the sacks our offensive line gave up were from bushrod and several of the tackles for loss that we had were his fault as well

there isnt a single thing bushrod does better than brown and we are going to be hurting at tackle this season because of ignorance and lack of talent

Ok Canton, Shut up after seeing these stats. Get off your knees and stop the Brown worshiping.

Between the Lines: Sacks Allowed, Team By Team -- NFL FanHouse

try reading stats before opening your mouth

SmashMouth · 06-21-2010, 02:48 PM

Looks like he knew the handwriting was on the wall...

CantonLegend · 06-21-2010, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Ok Canton, Shut up after seeing these stats. Get off your knees and stop the Brown worshiping.

Between the Lines: Sacks Allowed, Team By Team -- NFL FanHouse

try reading stats before opening your mouth

lol as the sole supporter of brown i feel like my past posts have spoken for themselves

Not all of a teams sacks are included here, as many sacks can not be blamed on any offensive lineman but on the quarterback or the play call.

sacks are credited to linemen.....not QBs....if bushrods guy tackled the QB then its a sack credited to the lineman....however, this website admits having a bias in counting stats by claiming that it is the QB who was responsible

you are going to tell me that the QB with the quickest release in the NFL is responsible for bushrod's guy hitting him?

go find me another link to prove your point cuz that one didnt work

oh yea and bushrod was credited with allowing 7.5 or 8 sacks this season dependin on how you count the game

as for holding penalties and false starts? thats one thing i would like to find out cuz i havent been able to find them yet

06-20-2010, 11:33 PM	#61
Threaded by SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Reminds me of Lecharles Bentley and where is he now? Exactly. Bushrod had ONE bad game, against the cowboys, and now he's not as good as Brown? Give me a break.
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06-21-2010, 08:20 AM	#62
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Exactly. Bushrod had ONE bad game, against the cowboys, and now he's not as good as Brown? Give me a break. So far he hasn't been as good as Brown. We succeeded with our backup last year but that was because of excellent coaching and schemes designed to give Bushrod help at LT. He has potential to get better but so do the people playing opposite him rushing the QB. Brown was good but not that good. I'm glad Brown's gone..........it would have been good to have him but the untimely penalties and injuries were just too costly.

06-21-2010, 09:53 AM	#63
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by saintpaul25 You know, I don't understand this infatuation with Brown, from some of the fans on here. He hasn't played a game, since 08, what exactly makes this guy so irreplaceable? Our best offensive lineman? With Bushrod last year, the Saints gave up the fewest sacks in the league I do believe. While leading the number one offense to a superbowl win. When we were discussing the re-signing of Sharper, people were jumping on him with both feet in here, calling him old and greedy, and "re-placeable", while sitting in the Jammal Brown section, talking about what a great player he is, and how we should keep him, no matter what the cost. DIDN'T PLAY THE ENTIRE SUPERBOWL SEASON, but he is the best o-linemen on the team. Am I the only one that finds this reasoning completely ludicrous? Good riddance, good bye Brown, and have a nice life. Should have been done before the draft this year. just as ludicrous as saying we are better without him because we won the super bowl without him......or saying that bushrod is better and can carry his own weight because our offensive line as a whole gave up the fewest sacks in the league neither of those arguments make any sense Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Exactly. Bushrod had ONE bad game, against the cowboys, and now he's not as good as Brown? Give me a break. one bad game? nearly half of the sacks our offensive line gave up were from bushrod and several of the tackles for loss that we had were his fault as well there isnt a single thing bushrod does better than brown and we are going to be hurting at tackle this season because of ignorance and lack of talent
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

06-21-2010, 10:12 AM	#64
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Look, the coaches knew there was a very good chance Jammal wouldn't be a Saint for much longer - it became clear to Brown when we drafted another LT. He wanted out and his wish was granted. JB's discontent wasn't drawn out and it didn't get ugly...what more could either side ask for??? It's time to start focusing on our future LT, Charles Brown. The kid has tremendous upside and should challenge Bushrod for the starting role. With Jammal's departure, we're left with a solid/serviceable LT in Bushrod and a kid who could realistically be Brees' LT until he retires.

06-21-2010, 10:17 AM	#65
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal The Saints have a bunch of people who need to be paid and making a mistake on Brown wasn't one luxury they could afford. Injuries made him a little long in the tooth and the timing was right to go in another direction.

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06-21-2010, 11:37 AM	#66
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal These kinds of things happen in the NFL. We'll never know if JB would have stepped back into his spot and shined like a new diamond. We'll have to wait on Bushrod's follow up performance and wait to see if McNabb is getting his head taken off in Washington. Brown did his job while he was in Black&Gold...ThankYou Sir! Live well and prosper until we have to see you again. If young Brown beats out Bushrod then that's a plus. If young Brown forces Bushrod to raise his level of play to keep his job, then that's a plus. Hopefully everybody wins from this one.
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06-21-2010, 02:39 PM	#68
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by CantonLegend just as ludicrous as saying we are better without him because we won the super bowl without him......or saying that bushrod is better and can carry his own weight because our offensive line as a whole gave up the fewest sacks in the league neither of those arguments make any sense one bad game? nearly half of the sacks our offensive line gave up were from bushrod and several of the tackles for loss that we had were his fault as well there isnt a single thing bushrod does better than brown and we are going to be hurting at tackle this season because of ignorance and lack of talent Ok Canton, Shut up after seeing these stats. Get off your knees and stop the Brown worshiping. Between the Lines: Sacks Allowed, Team By Team -- NFL FanHouse try reading stats before opening your mouth
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06-21-2010, 02:48 PM	#69
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06-21-2010, 03:50 PM	#70
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by voodooido Ok Canton, Shut up after seeing these stats. Get off your knees and stop the Brown worshiping. Between the Lines: Sacks Allowed, Team By Team -- NFL FanHouse try reading stats before opening your mouth lol as the sole supporter of brown i feel like my past posts have spoken for themselves Not all of a teams sacks are included here, as many sacks can not be blamed on any offensive lineman but on the quarterback or the play call. sacks are credited to linemen.....not QBs....if bushrods guy tackled the QB then its a sack credited to the lineman....however, this website admits having a bias in counting stats by claiming that it is the QB who was responsible you are going to tell me that the QB with the quickest release in the NFL is responsible for bushrod's guy hitting him? go find me another link to prove your point cuz that one didnt work oh yea and bushrod was credited with allowing 7.5 or 8 sacks this season dependin on how you count the game as for holding penalties and false starts? thats one thing i would like to find out cuz i havent been able to find them yet
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