It's time ... gotta make a change this week.

FWtex · 10-05-2003, 09:01 PM

With the current record and the season being basically over now, its a no brainer to make a move at QB or Off. Coord position. Staying with the same thing over and over is not going to make any headway.

Keeping both these guys in their duties is only in these two individuals best interest ... not the teams. Time to give someone else a chance to see what they can do. Its time to do it for the defense who are going out there playing their azz off. Its time to do it for Horn, Conwell, and Pathon.

Its time to face the fact that McCarthy will not be here next year. It time to face the fact that Brooks will have to win the starting job at QB and the competition starts right now. Its time to face the fact HAZ is not the coach everyone thought he was. Haslett is a puppet who can't stand on his own.

How many times have we heard a report where Haz has told someone he does not know what the problem is. Hokie said that he spoke to Haz monday and HAZ told him he did not know what to do to stop Ind. Haz brought in another head coach to teach him how to run the screen play. THIS IS NOT THE SIGN OF A STRONG LEADER and ROLE MODEL FOR A TEAM.

Its time to cut the losses and gain a liitle respect back.

BrooksMustGo · 10-05-2003, 09:04 PM

It\'s as good a time as any, the Bears are going to be desperate to come in and make a strong showing on the road. Kordell came out of today\'s game thinking he might keep his job. I\'m willing to be that Urlacher\'s whole job next week is to spy Duece and see if Brooks can beat them with his arm.

FWtex · 10-05-2003, 11:11 PM

Who\'s to take over? Well this is a problem. It seems Haslett has had to go to other head coaches for advice because he is surrounded by poor coaches. read the Bios on the saints website. Only a couple have Pro playing experience and none come from Big football programs. This is the most rediculous cast of coaches I have seen assembled on a football team much less an NFL team.

I say give it to the equipment boy because he has probably overheard enough complaints from the players that he knows more of what to do than any of the coaches.

BrooksMustGo · 10-05-2003, 11:15 PM

Give the team to the arena coach. Might be fun to watch. :P

saintz08 · 10-06-2003, 12:28 AM

Well alright FWtex .

Who\'s to take over? Well this is a problem. It seems Haslett has had to go to other head coaches for advice because he is surrounded by poor coaches. read the Bios on the saints website. Only a couple have Pro playing experience and none come from Big football programs. This is the most rediculous cast of coaches I have seen assembled on a football team much less an NFL team.

Been preaching this since the Mule assembled this team of misfits . Liked Zook he had some interesting background .

Now lets take this to the next level .

Mueller - originally hired by Benson . There was a reason he was demoted in Seattle .

After taking a hard look at the staff that was put together , does it appear they were put together so they could be controlled by Mueller ??? Mueller most likely has some control issues and that is what put him in direct conflict with Benson .

My original tandem going into 2000 , was Casserly and Kubiak .

Casserly always seemed to come out on top of a trade situation , especially with the Saints . Kubiak at the time seemed to be able to handle himself and an offense .

It is beginning to look more and more like a total rebuild ......

BrooksMustGo · 10-06-2003, 12:47 AM

I really hate to agree with this, but I\'ve had a gut feeling about this since Mueller got fired. But a total rebuild puts us on another 3 year plan. When are we ever going to do this right?

Casserly would have been a great choice, he\'s doing really well in Houston. I have no clue on who I\'d try to get at this point. :casstet:

saintz08 · 10-06-2003, 12:57 AM

Radical thought - giving me goose bumps here ....

Bill Walsh - General manager

Not like someone could get him out of the Bay area , but could be a very interesting thought ......

Saintsfan4ever · 10-06-2003, 04:24 AM

right on FWtex.

I know every year we say..wait till next year....but you guys know, just like I know, this was supposed to be our year. Only one win away last year for a playoff birth, all the cards were in place this year, the defense was better, bringing back the 3rd highest scoring offense in the league, best return man on Special teams..ect ect....WTF WENT WRONG? Everyone has valid opinions on where to lay the blame. But something we can all agree on is the fact that if we keep doing what we`ve been doing, we`re gonna keep getting what we`ve been getting; EXCUSES!

I feel the winds of change blowing in the Big Easy.

Did you see Brett Favre against Seattle? He ran, he passed,he shuffled, he blocked and he literally fought his way to victory....Now thats the kinda QB we need. I`ll be happy to pay $60 a game,$20 to park, and drink warm $5 beer to see a QB perform like that.
( I happen to believe our 3rd string QB has some these qualities, but we`ll see.)

billybignuts · 10-06-2003, 07:30 AM

Alot of people are talking about George Seiffart wanting to come back to the NFL. Not really sure of how i feel about him being our coach though. I say let Denny Green come in and run the entire show. He is a good coach and was taught by one of the best in the business.

WhoDat · 10-06-2003, 07:54 AM

Well folks, get used to seeing what you\'ve seen all season. Haslett won\'t get canned until the end of the year b/c there\'s no one to be the interim head coach. Venturi has done it before, but obviously we\'re not going to him. He ruined what was a good defense. McCarthy is a very big part of the problem so he won\'t get the nod either. So, for the rest of this season expect to see Brooks at the helm, Venturi following Haslett around like a lost puppy, McCarthy calling two tightend sets and Deuce up the middle, and Haslett stuttering about not know what went wrong every monday.

I have always liked Ron Zook. Despite what Florida has done (which was a no-win situation for Zook in the first place), I think he is a very good coach. Maybe, if LSU beats Florida by the four or five scores that they should beat them by, and seeing Arkansas and Georgia on their schedule in the next two weeks, U of F will make a move and dump Zook. We could pick him up to be D-Coord, and then fire Haslett and let him be interim head coach and then hire him on after the season....

Or maybe LSU could go undefeated, play for a National Championship, and give Saban everything he needs to leave. If so, the Saints would be the best possible place for him to make his NFL debut. He\'s already loved down there. With a great season at LSU he\'d be close to god status. The fans would give him the three years he needed to rebuild this team without question - whereas the pressure would come sooner in any other NFL town in the country for him.

Thoughts? What about Ray Rhodes for head coach?

10-05-2003, 09:01 PM	#1
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370	It's time ... gotta make a change this week. With the current record and the season being basically over now, its a no brainer to make a move at QB or Off. Coord position. Staying with the same thing over and over is not going to make any headway. Keeping both these guys in their duties is only in these two individuals best interest ... not the teams. Time to give someone else a chance to see what they can do. Its time to do it for the defense who are going out there playing their azz off. Its time to do it for Horn, Conwell, and Pathon. Its time to face the fact that McCarthy will not be here next year. It time to face the fact that Brooks will have to win the starting job at QB and the competition starts right now. Its time to face the fact HAZ is not the coach everyone thought he was. Haslett is a puppet who can't stand on his own. How many times have we heard a report where Haz has told someone he does not know what the problem is. Hokie said that he spoke to Haz monday and HAZ told him he did not know what to do to stop Ind. Haz brought in another head coach to teach him how to run the screen play. THIS IS NOT THE SIGN OF A STRONG LEADER and ROLE MODEL FOR A TEAM. Its time to cut the losses and gain a liitle respect back.
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10-05-2003, 09:04 PM	#2
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	It's time ... gotta make a change this week. It\'s as good a time as any, the Bears are going to be desperate to come in and make a strong showing on the road. Kordell came out of today\'s game thinking he might keep his job. I\'m willing to be that Urlacher\'s whole job next week is to spy Duece and see if Brooks can beat them with his arm.

10-05-2003, 11:11 PM	#3
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370	It's time ... gotta make a change this week. Who\'s to take over? Well this is a problem. It seems Haslett has had to go to other head coaches for advice because he is surrounded by poor coaches. read the Bios on the saints website. Only a couple have Pro playing experience and none come from Big football programs. This is the most rediculous cast of coaches I have seen assembled on a football team much less an NFL team. I say give it to the equipment boy because he has probably overheard enough complaints from the players that he knows more of what to do than any of the coaches.
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10-05-2003, 11:15 PM	#4
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	It's time ... gotta make a change this week. Give the team to the arena coach. Might be fun to watch. :P

10-06-2003, 12:28 AM	#5
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	It's time ... gotta make a change this week. Well alright FWtex . Who\'s to take over? Well this is a problem. It seems Haslett has had to go to other head coaches for advice because he is surrounded by poor coaches. read the Bios on the saints website. Only a couple have Pro playing experience and none come from Big football programs. This is the most rediculous cast of coaches I have seen assembled on a football team much less an NFL team. Been preaching this since the Mule assembled this team of misfits . Liked Zook he had some interesting background . Now lets take this to the next level . Mueller - originally hired by Benson . There was a reason he was demoted in Seattle . After taking a hard look at the staff that was put together , does it appear they were put together so they could be controlled by Mueller ??? Mueller most likely has some control issues and that is what put him in direct conflict with Benson . My original tandem going into 2000 , was Casserly and Kubiak . Casserly always seemed to come out on top of a trade situation , especially with the Saints . Kubiak at the time seemed to be able to handle himself and an offense . It is beginning to look more and more like a total rebuild ......
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10-06-2003, 12:47 AM	#6
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	It's time ... gotta make a change this week. I really hate to agree with this, but I\'ve had a gut feeling about this since Mueller got fired. But a total rebuild puts us on another 3 year plan. When are we ever going to do this right? Casserly would have been a great choice, he\'s doing really well in Houston. I have no clue on who I\'d try to get at this point. :casstet:

10-06-2003, 12:57 AM	#7
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	It's time ... gotta make a change this week. Radical thought - giving me goose bumps here .... Bill Walsh - General manager Not like someone could get him out of the Bay area , but could be a very interesting thought ......
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10-06-2003, 04:24 AM	#8
Saintsfan4ever 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Moss Point, MS Posts: 612 Blog Entries: 1	It's time ... gotta make a change this week. right on FWtex. I know every year we say..wait till next year....but you guys know, just like I know, this was supposed to be our year. Only one win away last year for a playoff birth, all the cards were in place this year, the defense was better, bringing back the 3rd highest scoring offense in the league, best return man on Special teams..ect ect....WTF WENT WRONG? Everyone has valid opinions on where to lay the blame. But something we can all agree on is the fact that if we keep doing what we`ve been doing, we`re gonna keep getting what we`ve been getting; EXCUSES! I feel the winds of change blowing in the Big Easy. Did you see Brett Favre against Seattle? He ran, he passed,he shuffled, he blocked and he literally fought his way to victory....Now thats the kinda QB we need. I`ll be happy to pay $60 a game,$20 to park, and drink warm $5 beer to see a QB perform like that. ( I happen to believe our 3rd string QB has some these qualities, but we`ll see.)
	Saint4

10-06-2003, 07:30 AM	#9
billybignuts 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 157	It's time ... gotta make a change this week. Alot of people are talking about George Seiffart wanting to come back to the NFL. Not really sure of how i feel about him being our coach though. I say let Denny Green come in and run the entire show. He is a good coach and was taught by one of the best in the business.
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10-06-2003, 07:54 AM	#10
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	It's time ... gotta make a change this week. Well folks, get used to seeing what you\'ve seen all season. Haslett won\'t get canned until the end of the year b/c there\'s no one to be the interim head coach. Venturi has done it before, but obviously we\'re not going to him. He ruined what was a good defense. McCarthy is a very big part of the problem so he won\'t get the nod either. So, for the rest of this season expect to see Brooks at the helm, Venturi following Haslett around like a lost puppy, McCarthy calling two tightend sets and Deuce up the middle, and Haslett stuttering about not know what went wrong every monday. I have always liked Ron Zook. Despite what Florida has done (which was a no-win situation for Zook in the first place), I think he is a very good coach. Maybe, if LSU beats Florida by the four or five scores that they should beat them by, and seeing Arkansas and Georgia on their schedule in the next two weeks, U of F will make a move and dump Zook. We could pick him up to be D-Coord, and then fire Haslett and let him be interim head coach and then hire him on after the season.... Or maybe LSU could go undefeated, play for a National Championship, and give Saban everything he needs to leave. If so, the Saints would be the best possible place for him to make his NFL debut. He\'s already loved down there. With a great season at LSU he\'d be close to god status. The fans would give him the three years he needed to rebuild this team without question - whereas the pressure would come sooner in any other NFL town in the country for him. Thoughts? What about Ray Rhodes for head coach?
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"