Maybe we need a new kicker.....

pherein · 09-26-2010, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Of course it is. And so were the one's against Minnesota... and he missed those too.

Don't put the game in the hands of a kicker unless necessary. It was 1st down and we were driving it easily.

ya or could have fumbled or been int later, whats your best %'s as a coach?

kick it , its easy

he missed, but I agree with the call.

Saint_LB · 09-26-2010, 05:22 PM

When Payton opted to kick on 1st down, I was happy...didn't want to take a chance on a fumble or a pick. When he missed, I changed my mind.

Hindsight is 20/20.

st thomas · 09-26-2010, 05:24 PM

pound the rock till the clowns stop us, thats all i expected from coach. pound pt. till we are 4th down or td the hell with kicking it. we saw what could have happened from the last few games. and guess what were 2-1 not a crucial 3-0 and still ahead of the clowns. my take any way.

pherein · 09-26-2010, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

pound the rock till the clowns stop us, thats all i expected from coach. pound pt. till we are 4th down or td the hell with kicking it. we saw what could have happened from the last few games. and guess what were 2-1 not a crucial 3-0 and still ahead of the clowns. my take any way.

hartley should have made that kick, its that simple

Danno · 09-26-2010, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

When Payton opted to kick on 1st down, I was happy...didn't want to take a chance on a fumble or a pick. When he missed, I changed my mind.

Hindsight is 20/20.

But considering, the odds of him missing the kick were better than a fumble or pick.

I'd rather have the ball in Brees' hands for 3 more plays than a shaky kicker for one.

pherein · 09-26-2010, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

But considering, the odds of him missing the kick were better than a fumble or pick.

I'd rather have the ball in Brees' hands for 3 more plays than a shaky kicker for one.

your taking about a shaky kicker that made a clutch kick in the NFC champs game. I mean there is a 95% or more that most kickers make that kick.

Saint_LB · 09-26-2010, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

But considering, the odds of him missing the kick were better than a fumble or pick.

I'd rather have the ball in Brees' hands for 3 more plays than a shaky kicker for one.

I didn't consider him shaky until after today. He kicked us into the SB...and didn't he kick the winning kick only last week?

Halo · 09-26-2010, 05:34 PM

I have to say, regardless of the circumstance, I'm a little "shakey" when it comes to Hartley this season.

He just has not looked as solid as last season.

Yes he won it for us last week, but as someone pointed out, that kick looked tipped.

He could be our weakness this season.

st thomas · 09-26-2010, 05:35 PM

its hard to believe that payton lost faith in us holding on to the ball. it was a rookie he trusted to put in the game. ivory loss it. okay thats ivory not pt not evans not betts. on the other hand hartly missed more than we put the ball on the ground. and he went hartly and we missed it and were mad because of it. and it will all go away next week. but we can be upset. and should we bring in another kicker.

Danno · 09-26-2010, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

I didn't consider him shaky until after today. He kicked us into the SB...and didn't he kick the winning kick only last week?

He missed 40% of his FG's before today.

I'd call that shaky.

09-26-2010, 05:22 PM	#41
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Danno Of course it is. And so were the one's against Minnesota... and he missed those too. Don't put the game in the hands of a kicker unless necessary. It was 1st down and we were driving it easily. ya or could have fumbled or been int later, whats your best %'s as a coach? kick it , its easy he missed, but I agree with the call.

09-26-2010, 05:22 PM	#42
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	When Payton opted to kick on 1st down, I was happy...didn't want to take a chance on a fumble or a pick. When he missed, I changed my mind. Hindsight is 20/20.
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09-26-2010, 05:26 PM	#44
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by st thomas pound the rock till the clowns stop us, thats all i expected from coach. pound pt. till we are 4th down or td the hell with kicking it. we saw what could have happened from the last few games. and guess what were 2-1 not a crucial 3-0 and still ahead of the clowns. my take any way. hartley should have made that kick, its that simple

09-26-2010, 05:27 PM	#45
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by Saint_LB When Payton opted to kick on 1st down, I was happy...didn't want to take a chance on a fumble or a pick. When he missed, I changed my mind. Hindsight is 20/20. But considering, the odds of him missing the kick were better than a fumble or pick. I'd rather have the ball in Brees' hands for 3 more plays than a shaky kicker for one.

09-26-2010, 05:30 PM	#46
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Danno But considering, the odds of him missing the kick were better than a fumble or pick. I'd rather have the ball in Brees' hands for 3 more plays than a shaky kicker for one. your taking about a shaky kicker that made a clutch kick in the NFC champs game. I mean there is a 95% or more that most kickers make that kick.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	pound the rock till the clowns stop us, thats all i expected from coach. pound pt. till we are 4th down or td the hell with kicking it. we saw what could have happened from the last few games. and guess what were 2-1 not a crucial 3-0 and still ahead of the clowns. my take any way.

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Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by Danno But considering, the odds of him missing the kick were better than a fumble or pick. I'd rather have the ball in Brees' hands for 3 more plays than a shaky kicker for one. I didn't consider him shaky until after today. He kicked us into the SB...and didn't he kick the winning kick only last week?
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09-26-2010, 05:34 PM	#48
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,604 Blog Entries: 45	I have to say, regardless of the circumstance, I'm a little "shakey" when it comes to Hartley this season. He just has not looked as solid as last season. Yes he won it for us last week, but as someone pointed out, that kick looked tipped. He could be our weakness this season.

09-26-2010, 05:35 PM	#49
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	its hard to believe that payton lost faith in us holding on to the ball. it was a rookie he trusted to put in the game. ivory loss it. okay thats ivory not pt not evans not betts. on the other hand hartly missed more than we put the ball on the ground. and he went hartly and we missed it and were mad because of it. and it will all go away next week. but we can be upset. and should we bring in another kicker.

09-26-2010, 05:37 PM	#50
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by Saint_LB I didn't consider him shaky until after today. He kicked us into the SB...and didn't he kick the winning kick only last week? He missed 40% of his FG's before today. I'd call that shaky.