jenkins

dizzle88 · 10-03-2010, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Guys.... seriously.... he left greer out to dry on that play.... as a safety, that is one of the simplest plays to read.... greer's job is to watch the run on that, with confidence that jenkins picks up the reciever.... 2nd year? He should have known that.... sharper would have had it covered....

Ok fair enough sharper would have known that, only thing is, sharper has 10 years more experience than jenkins. Yes it would be great to have our hall of fame safety back there, but it is what it is, Sharper was not ready to go, Jenkins was, He's the future and hes gotta gain experience, It's a learning curve, just be grateful that Jenkins has enough wit about him and thats really the only mental mistake he has made.
He got the sack that set up the win, hes got work to do, but he'll be great.

saintfan · 10-03-2010, 03:50 PM

We will talk all week about the defense, and rightfully so, but thank all that is holy for Carney, cause we - our high-powered super bowl winning juggernaut of an offense - managed ONE EFFIN touchdown today. ONE?

Look, we all know our D is more or less poo. The ingredient is to score and to score often. We're playing more like LSU than an pro team on offense. If that doesn't change...and soon...we'll be looking ahead to next year.

st thomas · 10-03-2010, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

We will talk all week about the defense, and rightfully so, but thank all that is holy for Carney, cause we - our high-powered super bowl winning juggernaut of an offense - managed ONE EFFIN touchdown today. ONE?

Look, we all know our D is more or less poo. The ingredient is to score and to score often. We're playing more like LSU than an pro team on offense. If that doesn't change...and soon...we'll be looking ahead to next year.

it shows how bad it really is without the turnovers

SaintPauly · 10-03-2010, 04:11 PM

What he said ..... jenkins is very athletic, and yes,, he can hit. But he has been burned, and double moved out of position so many times this season, its just not acceptable anymore. He isn't close, to one quarter the player sharper is. I just feel that some of us are letting our off season judgements of sharpers contractual actions, dilute honest evaluations of jenkins' performance on the field. He is NOT ready to take over at FS.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-03-2010, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

What he said ..... jenkins is very athletic, and yes,, he can hit. But he has been burned, and double moved out of position so many times this season, its just not acceptable anymore. He isn't close, to one quarter the player sharper is. I just feel that some of us are letting our off season judgements of sharpers contractual actions, dilute honest evaluations of jenkins' performance on the field. He is NOT ready to take over at FS.

Isn't this really a moot point? Sharper was not ready to play at the beginning of the season and is on the PUP list. He's not available until after week 6.

Jenkins isn't perfect. He makes mistakes. But this is his first year at Safety. Not his 15th like Sharper.

The defense has not yet cost us a game. The offense? Yes. The kicking game? Yes. The defense has been doing an admirable job considering the injuries and the lack of production from the other aspects of the Saints game at the current time.

Time to put on the rose colored glasses. The Saints schedule has a soft middle. 4 of the next 6 games are against teams with losing records. Injured players will be coming back online. Carney has stabilized the kicking game for now. We are 3-1 playing very uninspired football. Just grinding.

Jenkins is the least of the Saints worries.

SFIAH

Danno · 10-03-2010, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Isn't this really a moot point? Sharper was not ready to play at the beginning of the season and is on the PUP list. He's not available until after week 6.

Jenkins isn't perfect. He makes mistakes. But this is his first year at Safety. Not his 15th like Sharper.

The defense has not yet cost us a game. The offense? Yes. The kicking game? Yes. The defense has been doing an admirable job considering the injuries and the lack of production from the other aspects of the Saints game at the current time.

Time to put on the rose colored glasses. The Saints schedule has a soft middle. 4 of the next 6 games are against teams with losing records. Injured players will be coming back online. Carney has stabilized the kicking game for now. We are 3-1 playing very uninspired football. Just grinding.

Jenkins is the least of the Saints worries.

SFIAH

In fact, I'd say he was a bright spot so far. Compared to our D-line, LB's and some pretty mediocre play from our stud CBs, I'd say Jenkins is a very valuable player to this team.

Sharper had several bad games last year. He was far from perfect, and no one knows if he's lost yet another step because of his knee surgery.

Cruize · 10-03-2010, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Sharper had several bad games last year.

He wasn't perfect but I wouldn't say any of his games were bad. Not even close. I personally thought he should have won the defensive MVP.

SaintPauly · 10-03-2010, 04:40 PM

I'm just basing my judgements on a player's performance, NOT his so called potential. Many people in here were claiming jenkins was beyond ready to take over for sharper because of his financial demands, in the off season. Once again based on jenkins PERFORMANCE NOT POTENTIAL, it is clear to stevie wonder himself, that malcom isn't ready for one of, if not the most important secondary roles. Thus the NAME of the thread. Thought that would tip u off.....

jnormand · 10-03-2010, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

I'm just basing my judgements on a player's performance, NOT his so called potential. Many people in here were claiming jenkins was beyond ready to take over for sharper because of his financial demands, in the off season. Once again based on jenkins PERFORMANCE NOT POTENTIAL, it is clear to stevie wonder himself, that malcom isn't ready for one of, if not the most important secondary roles. Thus the NAME of the thread. Thought that would tip u off.....

Personally I would rather have Sharper back there right now just because he is better than MJ and is more of a playmaker. He's a good leader and makes great reads. Problem is that Sharper won't be back for a couple weeks and we need a Safety.

Do I think MJ is better? No. Is he the only real option we have? Yes.

Another year playing behind Sharper will benefit MJ, but so will the playing time MJ is getting until Sharper returns.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-03-2010, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

I'm just basing my judgements on a player's performance, NOT his so called potential. Many people in here were claiming jenkins was beyond ready to take over for sharper because of his financial demands, in the off season. Once again based on jenkins PERFORMANCE NOT POTENTIAL, it is clear to stevie wonder himself, that malcom isn't ready for one of, if not the most important secondary roles. Thus the NAME of the thread. Thought that would tip u off.....

The name of the thread is Jenkins. Doesn't really convey enough information to tip off anything.

I reiterate, it doesn't matter at this point if Jenkins is ready or not. He's all we have. We only had one healthy safety at the end of the game today. Guess who it was? He also made a crucial play on the last drive of the game along with Young (who was listed on the injury report IIRC, thus is not healthy).

The defense held Carolina to 14 points. There's really nothing to complain about, except for the decided lack of turnovers.

SFIAH

10-03-2010, 03:55 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Guys.... seriously.... he left greer out to dry on that play.... as a safety, that is one of the simplest plays to read.... greer's job is to watch the run on that, with confidence that jenkins picks up the reciever.... 2nd year? He should have known that.... sharper would have had it covered.... Ok fair enough sharper would have known that, only thing is, sharper has 10 years more experience than jenkins. Yes it would be great to have our hall of fame safety back there, but it is what it is, Sharper was not ready to go, Jenkins was, He's the future and hes gotta gain experience, It's a learning curve, just be grateful that Jenkins has enough wit about him and thats really the only mental mistake he has made. He got the sack that set up the win, hes got work to do, but he'll be great.
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10-03-2010, 11:23 PM	#3
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Originally Posted by saintfan We will talk all week about the defense, and rightfully so, but thank all that is holy for Carney, cause we - our high-powered super bowl winning juggernaut of an offense - managed ONE EFFIN touchdown today. ONE? Look, we all know our D is more or less poo. The ingredient is to score and to score often. We're playing more like LSU than an pro team on offense. If that doesn't change...and soon...we'll be looking ahead to next year. it shows how bad it really is without the turnovers

10-03-2010, 04:31 PM	#5
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 What he said ..... jenkins is very athletic, and yes,, he can hit. But he has been burned, and double moved out of position so many times this season, its just not acceptable anymore. He isn't close, to one quarter the player sharper is. I just feel that some of us are letting our off season judgements of sharpers contractual actions, dilute honest evaluations of jenkins' performance on the field. He is NOT ready to take over at FS. Isn't this really a moot point? Sharper was not ready to play at the beginning of the season and is on the PUP list. He's not available until after week 6. Jenkins isn't perfect. He makes mistakes. But this is his first year at Safety. Not his 15th like Sharper. The defense has not yet cost us a game. The offense? Yes. The kicking game? Yes. The defense has been doing an admirable job considering the injuries and the lack of production from the other aspects of the Saints game at the current time. Time to put on the rose colored glasses. The Saints schedule has a soft middle. 4 of the next 6 games are against teams with losing records. Injured players will be coming back online. Carney has stabilized the kicking game for now. We are 3-1 playing very uninspired football. Just grinding. Jenkins is the least of the Saints worries. SFIAH
	Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.

10-03-2010, 06:33 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Isn't this really a moot point? Sharper was not ready to play at the beginning of the season and is on the PUP list. He's not available until after week 6. Jenkins isn't perfect. He makes mistakes. But this is his first year at Safety. Not his 15th like Sharper. The defense has not yet cost us a game. The offense? Yes. The kicking game? Yes. The defense has been doing an admirable job considering the injuries and the lack of production from the other aspects of the Saints game at the current time. Time to put on the rose colored glasses. The Saints schedule has a soft middle. 4 of the next 6 games are against teams with losing records. Injured players will be coming back online. Carney has stabilized the kicking game for now. We are 3-1 playing very uninspired football. Just grinding. Jenkins is the least of the Saints worries. SFIAH In fact, I'd say he was a bright spot so far. Compared to our D-line, LB's and some pretty mediocre play from our stud CBs, I'd say Jenkins is a very valuable player to this team. Sharper had several bad games last year. He was far from perfect, and no one knows if he's lost yet another step because of his knee surgery.

10-03-2010, 07:01 PM	#7
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Originally Posted by Danno Sharper had several bad games last year. He wasn't perfect but I wouldn't say any of his games were bad. Not even close. I personally thought he should have won the defensive MVP.
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10-03-2010, 03:50 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	We will talk all week about the defense, and rightfully so, but thank all that is holy for Carney, cause we - our high-powered super bowl winning juggernaut of an offense - managed ONE EFFIN touchdown today. ONE? Look, we all know our D is more or less poo. The ingredient is to score and to score often. We're playing more like LSU than an pro team on offense. If that doesn't change...and soon...we'll be looking ahead to next year.

10-03-2010, 04:11 PM	#4
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	What he said ..... jenkins is very athletic, and yes,, he can hit. But he has been burned, and double moved out of position so many times this season, its just not acceptable anymore. He isn't close, to one quarter the player sharper is. I just feel that some of us are letting our off season judgements of sharpers contractual actions, dilute honest evaluations of jenkins' performance on the field. He is NOT ready to take over at FS.

10-03-2010, 04:40 PM	#8
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	I'm just basing my judgements on a player's performance, NOT his so called potential. Many people in here were claiming jenkins was beyond ready to take over for sharper because of his financial demands, in the off season. Once again based on jenkins PERFORMANCE NOT POTENTIAL, it is clear to stevie wonder himself, that malcom isn't ready for one of, if not the most important secondary roles. Thus the NAME of the thread. Thought that would tip u off.....

10-03-2010, 04:55 PM	#9
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,759	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 I'm just basing my judgements on a player's performance, NOT his so called potential. Many people in here were claiming jenkins was beyond ready to take over for sharper because of his financial demands, in the off season. Once again based on jenkins PERFORMANCE NOT POTENTIAL, it is clear to stevie wonder himself, that malcom isn't ready for one of, if not the most important secondary roles. Thus the NAME of the thread. Thought that would tip u off..... Personally I would rather have Sharper back there right now just because he is better than MJ and is more of a playmaker. He's a good leader and makes great reads. Problem is that Sharper won't be back for a couple weeks and we need a Safety. Do I think MJ is better? No. Is he the only real option we have? Yes. Another year playing behind Sharper will benefit MJ, but so will the playing time MJ is getting until Sharper returns.

10-03-2010, 09:14 PM	#10
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 I'm just basing my judgements on a player's performance, NOT his so called potential. Many people in here were claiming jenkins was beyond ready to take over for sharper because of his financial demands, in the off season. Once again based on jenkins PERFORMANCE NOT POTENTIAL, it is clear to stevie wonder himself, that malcom isn't ready for one of, if not the most important secondary roles. Thus the NAME of the thread. Thought that would tip u off..... The name of the thread is Jenkins. Doesn't really convey enough information to tip off anything. I reiterate, it doesn't matter at this point if Jenkins is ready or not. He's all we have. We only had one healthy safety at the end of the game today. Guess who it was? He also made a crucial play on the last drive of the game along with Young (who was listed on the injury report IIRC, thus is not healthy). The defense held Carolina to 14 points. There's really nothing to complain about, except for the decided lack of turnovers. SFIAH
	Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.