jenkins

dizzle88 · 10-03-2010, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Guys.... seriously.... he left greer out to dry on that play.... as a safety, that is one of the simplest plays to read.... greer's job is to watch the run on that, with confidence that jenkins picks up the reciever.... 2nd year? He should have known that.... sharper would have had it covered....

Ok fair enough sharper would have known that, only thing is, sharper has 10 years more experience than jenkins. Yes it would be great to have our hall of fame safety back there, but it is what it is, Sharper was not ready to go, Jenkins was, He's the future and hes gotta gain experience, It's a learning curve, just be grateful that Jenkins has enough wit about him and thats really the only mental mistake he has made.
He got the sack that set up the win, hes got work to do, but he'll be great.

SaintPauly · 10-03-2010, 05:11 PM

What he said ..... jenkins is very athletic, and yes,, he can hit. But he has been burned, and double moved out of position so many times this season, its just not acceptable anymore. He isn't close, to one quarter the player sharper is. I just feel that some of us are letting our off season judgements of sharpers contractual actions, dilute honest evaluations of jenkins' performance on the field. He is NOT ready to take over at FS.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-03-2010, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

What he said ..... jenkins is very athletic, and yes,, he can hit. But he has been burned, and double moved out of position so many times this season, its just not acceptable anymore. He isn't close, to one quarter the player sharper is. I just feel that some of us are letting our off season judgements of sharpers contractual actions, dilute honest evaluations of jenkins' performance on the field. He is NOT ready to take over at FS.

Isn't this really a moot point? Sharper was not ready to play at the beginning of the season and is on the PUP list. He's not available until after week 6.

Jenkins isn't perfect. He makes mistakes. But this is his first year at Safety. Not his 15th like Sharper.

The defense has not yet cost us a game. The offense? Yes. The kicking game? Yes. The defense has been doing an admirable job considering the injuries and the lack of production from the other aspects of the Saints game at the current time.

Time to put on the rose colored glasses. The Saints schedule has a soft middle. 4 of the next 6 games are against teams with losing records. Injured players will be coming back online. Carney has stabilized the kicking game for now. We are 3-1 playing very uninspired football. Just grinding.

Jenkins is the least of the Saints worries.

SFIAH

SaintPauly · 10-03-2010, 05:40 PM

I'm just basing my judgements on a player's performance, NOT his so called potential. Many people in here were claiming jenkins was beyond ready to take over for sharper because of his financial demands, in the off season. Once again based on jenkins PERFORMANCE NOT POTENTIAL, it is clear to stevie wonder himself, that malcom isn't ready for one of, if not the most important secondary roles. Thus the NAME of the thread. Thought that would tip u off.....

Cruize · 10-03-2010, 05:53 PM

You can't allow guys to run free behind you. Greer just let him go and was guarding turf. I understand zone. But, even if you're expecting help, you can't just let a guy run free.

jnormand · 10-03-2010, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

I'm just basing my judgements on a player's performance, NOT his so called potential. Many people in here were claiming jenkins was beyond ready to take over for sharper because of his financial demands, in the off season. Once again based on jenkins PERFORMANCE NOT POTENTIAL, it is clear to stevie wonder himself, that malcom isn't ready for one of, if not the most important secondary roles. Thus the NAME of the thread. Thought that would tip u off.....

Personally I would rather have Sharper back there right now just because he is better than MJ and is more of a playmaker. He's a good leader and makes great reads. Problem is that Sharper won't be back for a couple weeks and we need a Safety.

Do I think MJ is better? No. Is he the only real option we have? Yes.

Another year playing behind Sharper will benefit MJ, but so will the playing time MJ is getting until Sharper returns.

B_Dub_Saint · 10-03-2010, 07:24 PM

Hes doin what he needs to do why Sharp is out. He was hitting hard today.

Danno · 10-03-2010, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Isn't this really a moot point? Sharper was not ready to play at the beginning of the season and is on the PUP list. He's not available until after week 6.

Jenkins isn't perfect. He makes mistakes. But this is his first year at Safety. Not his 15th like Sharper.

The defense has not yet cost us a game. The offense? Yes. The kicking game? Yes. The defense has been doing an admirable job considering the injuries and the lack of production from the other aspects of the Saints game at the current time.

Time to put on the rose colored glasses. The Saints schedule has a soft middle. 4 of the next 6 games are against teams with losing records. Injured players will be coming back online. Carney has stabilized the kicking game for now. We are 3-1 playing very uninspired football. Just grinding.

Jenkins is the least of the Saints worries.

SFIAH

In fact, I'd say he was a bright spot so far. Compared to our D-line, LB's and some pretty mediocre play from our stud CBs, I'd say Jenkins is a very valuable player to this team.

Sharper had several bad games last year. He was far from perfect, and no one knows if he's lost yet another step because of his knee surgery.

Cruize · 10-03-2010, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Sharper had several bad games last year.

He wasn't perfect but I wouldn't say any of his games were bad. Not even close. I personally thought he should have won the defensive MVP.

manadrew · 10-03-2010, 08:06 PM

The guy was playing with our 4th string SS on the other side. Has to stay back and can't be aggressive. Made what appeared to be a mistake in coverage, but we do not know what the assignment was. Maybe he was supposed to jump the TE.

10-03-2010, 04:55 PM	#11
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Guys.... seriously.... he left greer out to dry on that play.... as a safety, that is one of the simplest plays to read.... greer's job is to watch the run on that, with confidence that jenkins picks up the reciever.... 2nd year? He should have known that.... sharper would have had it covered.... Ok fair enough sharper would have known that, only thing is, sharper has 10 years more experience than jenkins. Yes it would be great to have our hall of fame safety back there, but it is what it is, Sharper was not ready to go, Jenkins was, He's the future and hes gotta gain experience, It's a learning curve, just be grateful that Jenkins has enough wit about him and thats really the only mental mistake he has made. He got the sack that set up the win, hes got work to do, but he'll be great.
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10-03-2010, 05:31 PM	#13
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 What he said ..... jenkins is very athletic, and yes,, he can hit. But he has been burned, and double moved out of position so many times this season, its just not acceptable anymore. He isn't close, to one quarter the player sharper is. I just feel that some of us are letting our off season judgements of sharpers contractual actions, dilute honest evaluations of jenkins' performance on the field. He is NOT ready to take over at FS. Isn't this really a moot point? Sharper was not ready to play at the beginning of the season and is on the PUP list. He's not available until after week 6. Jenkins isn't perfect. He makes mistakes. But this is his first year at Safety. Not his 15th like Sharper. The defense has not yet cost us a game. The offense? Yes. The kicking game? Yes. The defense has been doing an admirable job considering the injuries and the lack of production from the other aspects of the Saints game at the current time. Time to put on the rose colored glasses. The Saints schedule has a soft middle. 4 of the next 6 games are against teams with losing records. Injured players will be coming back online. Carney has stabilized the kicking game for now. We are 3-1 playing very uninspired football. Just grinding. Jenkins is the least of the Saints worries. SFIAH
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10-03-2010, 05:53 PM	#15
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	You can't allow guys to run free behind you. Greer just let him go and was guarding turf. I understand zone. But, even if you're expecting help, you can't just let a guy run free.
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10-03-2010, 05:55 PM	#16
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 I'm just basing my judgements on a player's performance, NOT his so called potential. Many people in here were claiming jenkins was beyond ready to take over for sharper because of his financial demands, in the off season. Once again based on jenkins PERFORMANCE NOT POTENTIAL, it is clear to stevie wonder himself, that malcom isn't ready for one of, if not the most important secondary roles. Thus the NAME of the thread. Thought that would tip u off..... Personally I would rather have Sharper back there right now just because he is better than MJ and is more of a playmaker. He's a good leader and makes great reads. Problem is that Sharper won't be back for a couple weeks and we need a Safety. Do I think MJ is better? No. Is he the only real option we have? Yes. Another year playing behind Sharper will benefit MJ, but so will the playing time MJ is getting until Sharper returns.

10-03-2010, 07:33 PM	#18
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Isn't this really a moot point? Sharper was not ready to play at the beginning of the season and is on the PUP list. He's not available until after week 6. Jenkins isn't perfect. He makes mistakes. But this is his first year at Safety. Not his 15th like Sharper. The defense has not yet cost us a game. The offense? Yes. The kicking game? Yes. The defense has been doing an admirable job considering the injuries and the lack of production from the other aspects of the Saints game at the current time. Time to put on the rose colored glasses. The Saints schedule has a soft middle. 4 of the next 6 games are against teams with losing records. Injured players will be coming back online. Carney has stabilized the kicking game for now. We are 3-1 playing very uninspired football. Just grinding. Jenkins is the least of the Saints worries. SFIAH In fact, I'd say he was a bright spot so far. Compared to our D-line, LB's and some pretty mediocre play from our stud CBs, I'd say Jenkins is a very valuable player to this team. Sharper had several bad games last year. He was far from perfect, and no one knows if he's lost yet another step because of his knee surgery.

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10-03-2010, 05:11 PM	#12
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	What he said ..... jenkins is very athletic, and yes,, he can hit. But he has been burned, and double moved out of position so many times this season, its just not acceptable anymore. He isn't close, to one quarter the player sharper is. I just feel that some of us are letting our off season judgements of sharpers contractual actions, dilute honest evaluations of jenkins' performance on the field. He is NOT ready to take over at FS.

10-03-2010, 05:40 PM	#14
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	I'm just basing my judgements on a player's performance, NOT his so called potential. Many people in here were claiming jenkins was beyond ready to take over for sharper because of his financial demands, in the off season. Once again based on jenkins PERFORMANCE NOT POTENTIAL, it is clear to stevie wonder himself, that malcom isn't ready for one of, if not the most important secondary roles. Thus the NAME of the thread. Thought that would tip u off.....

10-03-2010, 07:24 PM	#17
B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,345 Blog Entries: 1	Hes doin what he needs to do why Sharp is out. He was hitting hard today.

10-03-2010, 08:01 PM	#19
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Originally Posted by Danno Sharper had several bad games last year. He wasn't perfect but I wouldn't say any of his games were bad. Not even close. I personally thought he should have won the defensive MVP.
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10-03-2010, 08:06 PM	#20
manadrew Rookie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 26	The guy was playing with our 4th string SS on the other side. Has to stay back and can't be aggressive. Made what appeared to be a mistake in coverage, but we do not know what the assignment was. Maybe he was supposed to jump the TE.