Shanle

dizzle88 · 12-20-2010, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Did anyone on defense at least try to put up a fight yesterday?

Not that I noticed, Charleston was getting thrown about every play, Vilma wrongly Blitzed and left their TE unmarked for that 20 yard TD, Torrence played 15 yards back and let them get first downs, then got burnt.
Hundreds of missed tackles lead to Ray Rices 50 yard run of the first play after we scored.
Just an overall miserable performance by the defence, they need to man up big time.

dizzle88 · 12-20-2010, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by strato

Good post....so would you say any of this had anything to do with Reggie Bush?

Nope...none of that was Reggie's doing, didn't help his cause by losing 14 yards on the second to last drive, but the D is to blame for the loss.

|Mitch| · 12-05-2010, 04:18 PM

I Agree!

AsylumGuido · 12-16-2010, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Shanle has made a whopping one play in the last 6 weeks. This guy needs to go. Maybe GW, SP, and ML sees this and does something about this in the offseason. I hate Shanle almost as much as i do Hartley. All other Saints players are cool in my book.

What is your problem? Shanle is third on the team in total tackles and has played two less games than Vilma. I'm sorry if he doesn't blow your skirt up, but he is doing his job. I'm sure Payton, Williams and Loomis know a bit more than you do about their personnel.

TheOak · 12-16-2010, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm sure Payton, Williams and Loomis know a bit more than you do about their personnel.

I have one word for that statement.

Hartley

LOL sorry I had to!

AsylumGuido · 12-16-2010, 03:31 PM

I'm sorry, but compared to most working kickers out there and all non-working kicker out there I like Hartley. If not for him we wouldn't have beaten Dallas. He was 3 for 3 with 50 and 45 yarders.

He went through a short slump earlier this year. He was pure money the two years before that.

TheOak · 12-17-2010, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm sorry, but compared to most working kickers out there and all non-working kicker out there I like Hartley. If not for him we wouldn't have beaten Dallas. He was 3 for 3 with 50 and 45 yarders.

He went through a short slump earlier this year. He was pure money the two years before that.

Granted we would not have beaten Dallas with any other kicker.....

We also would have not gone into overtime or lost to Atlanta if it were not his 29 yard FG miss... No? Care to guess who would be 11-2 right now if that FG were made? Guess who would be leading the NFC South?

Garrett Hartley Missed Field Goal Video | Falcons Vs Saints | SportsGrid

While my opinion may be unorthodox to some.. I think the ATL game was more important than the Dal game.

AsylumGuido · 12-17-2010, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Granted we would not have beaten Dallas with any other kicker.....

We also would have not gone into overtime or lost to Atlanta if it were not his 29 yard FG miss... No? Care to guess who would be 11-2 right now if that FG were made? Guess who would be leading the NFC South?

Garrett Hartley Missed Field Goal Video | Falcons Vs Saints | SportsGrid

While my opinion may be unorthodox to some.. I think the ATL game was more important than the Dal game.

You "misremember" what happened in that game. Hartley MADE a 32 yard FG with 9 seconds left to send the game to overtime. If not for him we would have lost it in regulation. It was two interceptions by Brees and a Chris Ivory fumble that cost us the game. Not Hartley.

Yes, Hartley missed one in overtime, but the defense still let Atlanta score after the miss.

That was was not Hartley's fault. Get over it people.

|Mitch| · 12-16-2010, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

we should be 11-2, but hartley couldn't make a 29 yard chipshot FG.

But we're not 11-2, we are 10-3 and Hartley isn't going anywhere soon. Time to get over it and move on, find something else to face your hatred at...

|Mitch| · 12-16-2010, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Don't complain when he chokes again and HE WILL CHOKE AGAIN. He's not a $$$ kicker.

Why would I feel the need to complain, you already complain enough for everybody...

12-20-2010, 03:21 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,693	Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Did anyone on defense at least try to put up a fight yesterday? Not that I noticed, Charleston was getting thrown about every play, Vilma wrongly Blitzed and left their TE unmarked for that 20 yard TD, Torrence played 15 yards back and let them get first downs, then got burnt. Hundreds of missed tackles lead to Ray Rices 50 yard run of the first play after we scored. Just an overall miserable performance by the defence, they need to man up big time.

12-20-2010, 03:25 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,693	Originally Posted by strato Good post....so would you say any of this had anything to do with Reggie Bush? Nope...none of that was Reggie's doing, didn't help his cause by losing 14 yards on the second to last drive, but the D is to blame for the loss.

12-16-2010, 07:46 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Shanle has made a whopping one play in the last 6 weeks. This guy needs to go. Maybe GW, SP, and ML sees this and does something about this in the offseason. I hate Shanle almost as much as i do Hartley. All other Saints players are cool in my book. What is your problem? Shanle is third on the team in total tackles and has played two less games than Vilma. I'm sorry if he doesn't blow your skirt up, but he is doing his job. I'm sure Payton, Williams and Loomis know a bit more than you do about their personnel.

12-16-2010, 12:56 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,061	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm sure Payton, Williams and Loomis know a bit more than you do about their personnel. I have one word for that statement. Hartley LOL sorry I had to!

12-17-2010, 11:35 AM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,061	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm sorry, but compared to most working kickers out there and all non-working kicker out there I like Hartley. If not for him we wouldn't have beaten Dallas. He was 3 for 3 with 50 and 45 yarders. He went through a short slump earlier this year. He was pure money the two years before that. Granted we would not have beaten Dallas with any other kicker..... We also would have not gone into overtime or lost to Atlanta if it were not his 29 yard FG miss... No? Care to guess who would be 11-2 right now if that FG were made? Guess who would be leading the NFC South? Garrett Hartley Missed Field Goal Video \| Falcons Vs Saints \| SportsGrid While my opinion may be unorthodox to some.. I think the ATL game was more important than the Dal game.

12-05-2010, 04:18 PM	#3
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	I Agree!

12-16-2010, 03:31 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	I'm sorry, but compared to most working kickers out there and all non-working kicker out there I like Hartley. If not for him we wouldn't have beaten Dallas. He was 3 for 3 with 50 and 45 yarders. He went through a short slump earlier this year. He was pure money the two years before that.

12-17-2010, 02:50 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Granted we would not have beaten Dallas with any other kicker..... We also would have not gone into overtime or lost to Atlanta if it were not his 29 yard FG miss... No? Care to guess who would be 11-2 right now if that FG were made? Guess who would be leading the NFC South? Garrett Hartley Missed Field Goal Video \| Falcons Vs Saints \| SportsGrid While my opinion may be unorthodox to some.. I think the ATL game was more important than the Dal game. You "misremember" what happened in that game. Hartley MADE a 32 yard FG with 9 seconds left to send the game to overtime. If not for him we would have lost it in regulation. It was two interceptions by Brees and a Chris Ivory fumble that cost us the game. Not Hartley. Yes, Hartley missed one in overtime, but the defense still let Atlanta score after the miss. That was was not Hartley's fault. Get over it people.

12-16-2010, 04:06 PM	#9
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by Mr Magic we should be 11-2, but hartley couldn't make a 29 yard chipshot FG. But we're not 11-2, we are 10-3 and Hartley isn't going anywhere soon. Time to get over it and move on, find something else to face your hatred at...

12-16-2010, 04:08 PM	#10
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Don't complain when he chokes again and HE WILL CHOKE AGAIN. He's not a $$$ kicker. Why would I feel the need to complain, you already complain enough for everybody...