The "Fire McMahon" Thread

cajun911 · 12-06-2010, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Glad I am not the only one who noticed how freaking horrible special teams was yesterday. The field position Cincinnati had throughout the game was a complete joke. No wonder the Saints almost lost the game, if the Bengals weren't so mistake prone the outcome would have been different...

This sums up how I feel. We better fix this if we want to have a good shot at the playoffs. Every game for the rest of the season is crucial. Think we can give any of the teams we have left to play that kind of field position and hope to win the game? I don't think so.

ClintSaints · 12-06-2010, 02:42 PM

I completely agree with this post. Something needs to change and fast. Special Teams are the most underrated and significant aspect of football because they influence field position. The Bengals' average starting position was around their own 40 yard line. Statistically, it becomes way harder to stop an opposing offense if they are starting near mid-field. It seems like our Special Teams last year were way better, were they not?

neugey · 12-06-2010, 03:02 PM

Not in favor of bringing in an outsider, but I'd be okay if we cut our current special teams staff and let one of our better assistants like Joe Vitt or Curtis Johnson have a promotion and a chance and challenge to get better results.

But it's kind of late now, we should have done this during the bye week.

lumm0x · 12-06-2010, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

The first step is having Morstead resume kickoff duties. Why Hartley is kicking off is beyond me.

I've been asking this myself for most of the season. Hartley can't get it to the end zone at all. Are we dead last in touchbacks? The only reason alot of teams are hanging around in games is because we set them up offensively time and time again. Add a couple of first downs to every drive and we'll see a large percentage of scoring disappear.

Barry from MS · 12-06-2010, 06:19 PM

We don't "fire" McMahon right this minute, but just make him a glorified spectator who gets sideline seats to WATCH games and practices. He does not need to bother with the X's and O's and personnel groupings with Saints football for the rest of the season b/c what he's doing now is an epic failure.

Also, dude needs to return all his paychecks he's gotten since at least the CLE game...

Rugby Saint II · 12-07-2010, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

We don't "fire" McMahon right this minute, but just make him a glorified spectator who gets sideline seats to WATCH games and practices. He does not need to bother with the X's and O's and personnel groupings with Saints football for the rest of the season b/c what he's doing now is an epic failure.

Also, dude needs to return all his paychecks he's gotten since at least the CLE game...

Well said.

SaintsBro · 12-07-2010, 02:52 PM

Yeah, I am waiting practically every day for that article or interview where Sean Payton says he will be making some adjustments to special teams. Because I'm telling you, that's exactly what happened last year... There was an interview he did in early January, it was right after the ST debacle of the Buccaneers game, where he said there were gonna be some changes made on special teams. He obviously rolled up his sleeves and got in there to work on it personally, because next thing you know, Hartley was money again, Bush finally takes one back to the house for the first time in ages, and we were playing really awesomely well on special teams all the way through the playoffs and Super Bowl.

* waits *

12-06-2010, 02:22 PM	#21
cajun911 The anti-falcon Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Thibodaux, La. Posts: 187	Originally Posted by MatthewT Glad I am not the only one who noticed how freaking horrible special teams was yesterday. The field position Cincinnati had throughout the game was a complete joke. No wonder the Saints almost lost the game, if the Bengals weren't so mistake prone the outcome would have been different... This sums up how I feel. We better fix this if we want to have a good shot at the playoffs. Every game for the rest of the season is crucial. Think we can give any of the teams we have left to play that kind of field position and hope to win the game? I don't think so.

12-06-2010, 03:53 PM	#24
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Originally Posted by Mr Magic The first step is having Morstead resume kickoff duties. Why Hartley is kicking off is beyond me. I've been asking this myself for most of the season. Hartley can't get it to the end zone at all. Are we dead last in touchbacks? The only reason alot of teams are hanging around in games is because we set them up offensively time and time again. Add a couple of first downs to every drive and we'll see a large percentage of scoring disappear.

12-07-2010, 02:22 PM	#26
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Originally Posted by Barry from MS We don't "fire" McMahon right this minute, but just make him a glorified spectator who gets sideline seats to WATCH games and practices. He does not need to bother with the X's and O's and personnel groupings with Saints football for the rest of the season b/c what he's doing now is an epic failure. Also, dude needs to return all his paychecks he's gotten since at least the CLE game... Well said.

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12-06-2010, 02:42 PM	#22
ClintSaints 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 603	I completely agree with this post. Something needs to change and fast. Special Teams are the most underrated and significant aspect of football because they influence field position. The Bengals' average starting position was around their own 40 yard line. Statistically, it becomes way harder to stop an opposing offense if they are starting near mid-field. It seems like our Special Teams last year were way better, were they not?

12-06-2010, 03:02 PM	#23
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Not in favor of bringing in an outsider, but I'd be okay if we cut our current special teams staff and let one of our better assistants like Joe Vitt or Curtis Johnson have a promotion and a chance and challenge to get better results. But it's kind of late now, we should have done this during the bye week.

12-06-2010, 06:19 PM	#25
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	We don't "fire" McMahon right this minute, but just make him a glorified spectator who gets sideline seats to WATCH games and practices. He does not need to bother with the X's and O's and personnel groupings with Saints football for the rest of the season b/c what he's doing now is an epic failure. Also, dude needs to return all his paychecks he's gotten since at least the CLE game...

12-07-2010, 02:52 PM	#27
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Yeah, I am waiting practically every day for that article or interview where Sean Payton says he will be making some adjustments to special teams. Because I'm telling you, that's exactly what happened last year... There was an interview he did in early January, it was right after the ST debacle of the Buccaneers game, where he said there were gonna be some changes made on special teams. He obviously rolled up his sleeves and got in there to work on it personally, because next thing you know, Hartley was money again, Bush finally takes one back to the house for the first time in ages, and we were playing really awesomely well on special teams all the way through the playoffs and Super Bowl. * waits *