Looking at Atlanta through a clear lens

CashAndFlash · 12-23-2010, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I agree... he with the ring rules them all. None of us have that ring right now, but you've got to win football games to get their. And because of their record, a first round bye along with HFA is possible; therefore creating less obstacles and increasing their chances over ours to getting to the promise land. I wasn't solely basing my argument on the fact they have a better record than ours. It based on a combination of that, beating us, having a well balanced team, along with very skilled position players.

I just don't see them being that good. Skilled players? Matty, maybe, but who else? Turner? All I see on his runs are a bunch of missed tackles. And all I see out of Roddy White is trash talk and trash play.

And yeah, we do have that ring right now. We're the Defending World Champions. I don't know if we'll go all the way this year, but I'd be willing to bet - and I'm serious about this- that whoever wins the SB this year, won't be a team the Saints have played, win OR lose.

foreverfan · 12-23-2010, 09:27 AM

I think what Paz is trying to say is the Falcons are 12-2.

CashAndFlash · 12-23-2010, 09:36 AM

Okay, somehow I missed like 5 posts on the last page... I'll just leave my top post up there, and hope the confusion gets alleviated.

On another note, I tried to find the scene from Tommy Boy where Chris Farley answers the door in his underwear. I don't think that makes me gay. Judges? edit: other than FF

and

caddieman

let's see how many I get right...

foreverfan · 12-23-2010, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by CashAndFlash

Okay, somehow I missed like 5 posts on the last page... I'll just leave my top post up there, and hope the confusion gets alleviated.

On another note, I tried to find the scene from Tommy Boy where Chris Farley answers the door in his underwear. I don't think that makes me gay. Judges? edit: other than FF

and

Flamer...

TheOak · 12-23-2010, 09:53 AM

Papz~ I think you may have misunderstood most of what i have posted.
In my opinion, stats mean more than records when it comes down to a single game. Yes at the end of the year the record is what matters, but when analyzing a match up it is stats, and match ups.

The phrase "playing damned good football" means absolutely zero to me until you factor who they are playing against, how good a team is, is directionally proportionate to their opponent. Just because they have a better record does not mean they played "damned good football", we have played like crap and still won.

I was not implying that statement got 504 banned. It was just the start of his last thread that lead to all of what ever the reason was. I am not willing to bow down and call any team better than we are. At the end of the game if they have won then they played better than we did.

The moral of my entire story is yes they are a good team, never said they are not, yes it will be a tough game, it always is against ATL. However there are some people who choose to believe we are facing the seven horsemen of the apocalypse. Which we are not, they are good but they are not "that damned good" compared to us.

And lastly no.... I do not drown in the kool-aid and do not believe Shanle is going to the Pro-Bowl.

papz · 12-23-2010, 09:58 AM

I don't know if we'll go all the way this year, but I'd be willing to bet - and I'm serious about this- that whoever wins the SB this year, won't be a team the Saints have played, win OR lose.

It's hard to repeat these days but if we play up to our potential, I can definitely see us there. With that said, I think it's going to be Philly and NE as of right now. Vick is such a big X factor that when he's on, he can single handedly bring his team to victory. NE is just on fire right now... great coach, great quarterback, and their defense is coming around.

Just for giggles... I work with mostly women but there's a few guys here that I polled and 2 are season ticket holders. I put them on the spot and asked AFC and NFC favorites for the Superbowl.

Season ticket holder 1: Philly/ATL vs. New England
Season ticket holder 2: Philly/ATL vs. New England
Boss: Philly/Saints vs. New England
Me: Eagles vs. New England

RaginCajun83 · 12-23-2010, 10:02 AM

All this gloom and doom will be put to rest when the Saints wipe that toilet bowl looking dome clean with the falcons on Monday night, all season long I have had no, non zero respect for the Falcons and I can't wait for Drew and Co to show the world what frauds they are, as for the experts if these so called experts were so right then the Cowboys would be good and we could just call off the season and hand out the trophy before the season even started

CashAndFlash · 12-23-2010, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by strato

I think its going to be a good game...as was stated above we have to stop Turner..Our D line and Lbs have to step up big time ..somebody HAS to cover Gonzo...we can't let them beat us with cheap dink and dunk stuff..with that said.. Greer will need safety help to make sure Rotten doesnt get any cheap pushoff TDs..

We need to get pressure on Matty and rattle him early and often...if he gets too comfortable he will find the open reciever...i dont know about y'all.. but the guy is a decent QB.. and seems to take what the D gives him..Drew needs to do the same.

On offense we need to establish a running game and not get cute..even if we fall behind..Drew needs to work the middle of the field and beat them at their own game..hopefully we can cause a few turnovers and steal a posession from them...i dont expect the crowd to be a big factor..we know that Dome is crickets...

and last Hartley has to make whatever is put in front of him 29 or 49..just make the dam kick..this is going to be a good game and a chess match that will come down to execution..I think we win a close one here ...i hope im wrong and we blow their asses out..but this is a good football team and it wont be that easy...we are the more talented team on paper..no doubt..we just have to prove it on the field..and shut these clowns up....

Strato, I completely agree. :thumbs up:

lynwood · 12-23-2010, 11:12 AM

My prediction is this game will be just like most other Saints games and i'll need a defibulator nearby. Last 2 minutes will be hell.

Rugby Saint II · 12-23-2010, 11:53 AM

and last Hartley has to make whatever is put in front of him 29 or 49..just make the dam kick..this is going to be a good game and a chess match that will come down to execution..I think we win a close one here ...i hope im wrong and we blow their asses out..but this is a good football team and it wont be that easy...we are the more talented team on paper..no doubt..we just have to prove it on the field..and shut these clowns up....

[/QUOTE]
Exactly Strato

12-23-2010, 09:20 AM	#21
CashAndFlash Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 30 miles from Paradis Posts: 602 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by papz I agree... he with the ring rules them all. None of us have that ring right now, but you've got to win football games to get their. And because of their record, a first round bye along with HFA is possible; therefore creating less obstacles and increasing their chances over ours to getting to the promise land. I wasn't solely basing my argument on the fact they have a better record than ours. It based on a combination of that, beating us, having a well balanced team, along with very skilled position players. I just don't see them being that good. Skilled players? Matty, maybe, but who else? Turner? All I see on his runs are a bunch of missed tackles. And all I see out of Roddy White is trash talk and trash play. And yeah, we do have that ring right now. We're the Defending World Champions. I don't know if we'll go all the way this year, but I'd be willing to bet - and I'm serious about this- that whoever wins the SB this year, won't be a team the Saints have played, win OR lose.

12-23-2010, 09:36 AM	#23
CashAndFlash Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 30 miles from Paradis Posts: 602 Blog Entries: 1	Okay, somehow I missed like 5 posts on the last page... I'll just leave my top post up there, and hope the confusion gets alleviated. On another note, I tried to find the scene from Tommy Boy where Chris Farley answers the door in his underwear. I don't think that makes me gay. Judges? edit: other than FF and caddieman let's see how many I get right...
	Last edited by CashAndFlash; 12-23-2010 at 09:51 AM..

12-23-2010, 09:42 AM	#24
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by CashAndFlash Okay, somehow I missed like 5 posts on the last page... I'll just leave my top post up there, and hope the confusion gets alleviated. On another note, I tried to find the scene from Tommy Boy where Chris Farley answers the door in his underwear. I don't think that makes me gay. Judges? edit: other than FF and Flamer...

12-23-2010, 09:53 AM	#25
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Papz~ I think you may have misunderstood most of what i have posted. In my opinion, stats mean more than records when it comes down to a single game. Yes at the end of the year the record is what matters, but when analyzing a match up it is stats, and match ups. The phrase "playing damned good football" means absolutely zero to me until you factor who they are playing against, how good a team is, is directionally proportionate to their opponent. Just because they have a better record does not mean they played "damned good football", we have played like crap and still won. I was not implying that statement got 504 banned. It was just the start of his last thread that lead to all of what ever the reason was. I am not willing to bow down and call any team better than we are. At the end of the game if they have won then they played better than we did. The moral of my entire story is yes they are a good team, never said they are not, yes it will be a tough game, it always is against ATL. However there are some people who choose to believe we are facing the seven horsemen of the apocalypse. Which we are not, they are good but they are not "that damned good" compared to us. And lastly no.... I do not drown in the kool-aid and do not believe Shanle is going to the Pro-Bowl.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

12-23-2010, 09:58 AM	#26
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	I don't know if we'll go all the way this year, but I'd be willing to bet - and I'm serious about this- that whoever wins the SB this year, won't be a team the Saints have played, win OR lose. It's hard to repeat these days but if we play up to our potential, I can definitely see us there. With that said, I think it's going to be Philly and NE as of right now. Vick is such a big X factor that when he's on, he can single handedly bring his team to victory. NE is just on fire right now... great coach, great quarterback, and their defense is coming around. Just for giggles... I work with mostly women but there's a few guys here that I polled and 2 are season ticket holders. I put them on the spot and asked AFC and NFC favorites for the Superbowl. Season ticket holder 1: Philly/ATL vs. New England Season ticket holder 2: Philly/ATL vs. New England Boss: Philly/Saints vs. New England Me: Eagles vs. New England
	Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. All little common sense goes a long way.

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12-23-2010, 09:27 AM	#22
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	I think what Paz is trying to say is the Falcons are 12-2.

12-23-2010, 10:02 AM	#27
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	All this gloom and doom will be put to rest when the Saints wipe that toilet bowl looking dome clean with the falcons on Monday night, all season long I have had no, non zero respect for the Falcons and I can't wait for Drew and Co to show the world what frauds they are, as for the experts if these so called experts were so right then the Cowboys would be good and we could just call off the season and hand out the trophy before the season even started

12-23-2010, 10:09 AM	#28
CashAndFlash Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 30 miles from Paradis Posts: 602 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by strato I think its going to be a good game...as was stated above we have to stop Turner..Our D line and Lbs have to step up big time ..somebody HAS to cover Gonzo...we can't let them beat us with cheap dink and dunk stuff..with that said.. Greer will need safety help to make sure Rotten doesnt get any cheap pushoff TDs.. We need to get pressure on Matty and rattle him early and often...if he gets too comfortable he will find the open reciever...i dont know about y'all.. but the guy is a decent QB.. and seems to take what the D gives him..Drew needs to do the same. On offense we need to establish a running game and not get cute..even if we fall behind..Drew needs to work the middle of the field and beat them at their own game..hopefully we can cause a few turnovers and steal a posession from them...i dont expect the crowd to be a big factor..we know that Dome is crickets... and last Hartley has to make whatever is put in front of him 29 or 49..just make the dam kick..this is going to be a good game and a chess match that will come down to execution..I think we win a close one here ...i hope im wrong and we blow their asses out..but this is a good football team and it wont be that easy...we are the more talented team on paper..no doubt..we just have to prove it on the field..and shut these clowns up.... Strato, I completely agree. :thumbs up:

12-23-2010, 11:12 AM	#29
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	My prediction is this game will be just like most other Saints games and i'll need a defibulator nearby. Last 2 minutes will be hell.

12-23-2010, 11:53 AM	#30
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	and last Hartley has to make whatever is put in front of him 29 or 49..just make the dam kick..this is going to be a good game and a chess match that will come down to execution..I think we win a close one here ...i hope im wrong and we blow their asses out..but this is a good football team and it wont be that easy...we are the more talented team on paper..no doubt..we just have to prove it on the field..and shut these clowns up....[/QUOTE] Exactly Strato