Looking at Atlanta through a clear lens

subguy · 12-23-2010, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I haven't the least bit implied anything of that nature Paul... you misinterpreted the post. All that's being said is that right now they're the better football team than us... that by no means suggest we're going to lose to them. I'm confident if we can contain Turner, we'll come out on top as we should have the first game.

I totally agree...containing Turner will be the big key. I think when we first played them we were so sloppy. We seemingly have gotten it together much more since then. Both teams are playing good football. Momentum and confidence is the edge I think the Falcons have at the moment. They probably watch the media as well. However, I do believe we will win this game. We need to minimize the Turner damage and stop the shallow dump passes.

skymike · 12-23-2010, 08:22 AM

nyaaa, Papz is right, Naam. We gotta start thinking more reliferously, less in the abstract. You know the ancient Mesopotamians vastly underestimated the Medo-Persians, resulting in aaah... premature demise... and such...

(sigh.) I've a fool, Cliff. All this "go team, yea team rah rah." Why dont we just admit we're homers, and we dont know what we're talking about.

Yeah, old buddy, I know its time we faced the facts.
Lets put our pencils to work, and come up with a reasoned,
realistic assessment of our basic situation.

Cliff, you're an accidental genious. That plan is so crazy it has to work. I know just the guys to ask...

skymike · 12-23-2010, 08:27 AM

You want us to look at this thru a clear lens? ok, I think we can do it.

ehhh...

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TheOak · 12-23-2010, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by papz

All that's being said is that right now they're the better football team than us

With all due respect... You realize you just pretty much quoted 504 in his farewell thread?

I made this thread yesterday and logged out. Never expecting to log in today and feel like I was surrounded by Atlanta Fans. Caddieman does not need to reply, it was done for him.

CashAndFlash · 12-23-2010, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

With all due respect... You realize you just pretty much quoted 504 in his farewell thread?

I made this thread yesterday and logged out. Never expecting to log in today and feel like I was surrounded by Atlanta Fans. Caddieman does not need to reply, it was done for him.

In other news, there's a sudden upsurge in Chris Farley references... good things are on the horizon.

papz · 12-23-2010, 09:06 AM

I was off to work so I couldn't respond to your post earlier... which would have taken a little more time.

When you think Top QB, what name comes to mind?
When you think high powered high scoring Offense, what comes to mind?
When you think dominate Defense, what comes to mind?
"" amazing special teams?
"" head coach you do not want to face?
Not sure about you, but nothing "Atlanta" comes into my mind when i ask my self those questions.

And when you compare them to us with those questions, it just makes it more impressive that they're doing more with less. It shows you don't have to have the elite quarterback, elite defense, yadda yadda yadda, to play damn good football... which they are at the moment. Individual statistics and rankings don't mean jack squat when a team is sitting at home with all those accolades with another football team playing in the Superbowl.

With all due respect... You realize you just pretty much quoted 504 in his farewell thread?

I didn't read the thread as I was out of town all weekend, but if he said that, I don't see anything wrong with it. I believe he's been banned for a week, and trust me... that wasn't what got him banned. It's been an accumulation of things that resulted in that.

I made this thread yesterday and logged out. Never expecting to log in today and feel like I was surrounded by Atlanta Fans. Caddieman does not need to reply, it was done for him.

You check how long some of us have been posting on this site... it's quite obvious we're all Falcon fans. The difference btw some of us and yourself, we aren't biased. I don't have to like them to to be logical and realistic.

As far Caddieman... give the man his troll break. Their play speaks for itself... until we beat them this Sunday.

foreverfan · 12-23-2010, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by CashAndFlash

In other news, there's a sudden upsurge in Chris Farley references... good things are on the horizon.

CashAndFlash · 12-23-2010, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I was off to work so I couldn't respond to your post earlier... which would have taken a little more time.

And when you compare them to us with those questions, it just makes it more impressive that they're doing more with less. It shows you don't have to have the elite quarterback, elite defense, yadda yadda yadda, to play damn good football... which they are at the moment. Individual statistics and rankings don't mean jack squat when a team is sitting at home with all those accolades with another football team playing in the Superbowl.

I didn't read the thread as I was out of town all weekend, but if he said that, I don't see anything wrong with it. I believe he's been banned for a week, and trust me... that wasn't what got him banned. It's been an accumulation of things that resulted in that.

You check how long some of us have been posting on this site... it's quite obvious we're all Falcon fans. The difference btw some of us and yourself, we aren't biased. I don't have to like them to to be logical and realistic.

As far Caddieman... give the man his troll break. Their play speaks for itself... until we beat them this Sunday.

I realize I'm still a relative newbie here new papz, but I have to disagree. When I watch the Falcons play, all I see is a house of cards. "You are what your record is" isn't nearly as convincing as "he with the ring, rules them all".

edit: oh, and what got him banned was that he called out Halo... told him he shouldn't be a mod. the dude's a fool.

skymike · 12-23-2010, 09:15 AM

self edit due to threadjack.

I do wonder how this conversation would be going if Hartley makes that 12 yard FG back in October.

papz · 12-23-2010, 09:17 AM

Cash, I agree... he with the ring rules them all. None of us have that ring right now, but you've got to win football games to get there. And because of their record, a first round bye along with HFA is possible; therefore creating less obstacles and increasing their chances over ours to getting to the promise land. I wasn't solely basing my argument on the fact they have a better record than ours. It based on a combination of that, beating us, having a well balanced team, along with very skilled position players.

12-23-2010, 08:22 AM	#11
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,096	Originally Posted by papz I haven't the least bit implied anything of that nature Paul... you misinterpreted the post. All that's being said is that right now they're the better football team than us... that by no means suggest we're going to lose to them. I'm confident if we can contain Turner, we'll come out on top as we should have the first game. I totally agree...containing Turner will be the big key. I think when we first played them we were so sloppy. We seemingly have gotten it together much more since then. Both teams are playing good football. Momentum and confidence is the edge I think the Falcons have at the moment. They probably watch the media as well. However, I do believe we will win this game. We need to minimize the Turner damage and stop the shallow dump passes.

12-23-2010, 08:27 AM	#13
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	You want us to look at this thru a clear lens? ok, I think we can do it. ehhh... ---Saints Beat Falcons in a Rout! Da Saints!!!!! Houston Area Fans: Come watch the Saints Kick the Falcons with me, SuperDome, and the Hou-Dats gang Monday night at Ragin Cajun/ Westheimer @ Gessner. They're doing a bunch of specials just for us, we get our own section, and I'm bringing the zydeco, jazz, WhoDat tunes, and some special surprises. You wear your black and gold, bring your Saints stuff, and raise hell. See yall monday night. details here: http://blackandgold.com/saints/30836-houston-area-fans-show-our-strength-5.html
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12-23-2010, 08:32 AM	#14
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by papz All that's being said is that right now they're the better football team than us With all due respect... You realize you just pretty much quoted 504 in his farewell thread? I made this thread yesterday and logged out. Never expecting to log in today and feel like I was surrounded by Atlanta Fans. Caddieman does not need to reply, it was done for him.

12-23-2010, 08:55 AM	#15
CashAndFlash Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 30 miles from Paradis Posts: 602 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by x626xBlack With all due respect... You realize you just pretty much quoted 504 in his farewell thread? I made this thread yesterday and logged out. Never expecting to log in today and feel like I was surrounded by Atlanta Fans. Caddieman does not need to reply, it was done for him. In other news, there's a sudden upsurge in Chris Farley references... good things are on the horizon.

12-23-2010, 09:06 AM	#16
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	I was off to work so I couldn't respond to your post earlier... which would have taken a little more time. When you think Top QB, what name comes to mind? When you think high powered high scoring Offense, what comes to mind? When you think dominate Defense, what comes to mind? "" amazing special teams? "" head coach you do not want to face? Not sure about you, but nothing "Atlanta" comes into my mind when i ask my self those questions. And when you compare them to us with those questions, it just makes it more impressive that they're doing more with less. It shows you don't have to have the elite quarterback, elite defense, yadda yadda yadda, to play damn good football... which they are at the moment. Individual statistics and rankings don't mean jack squat when a team is sitting at home with all those accolades with another football team playing in the Superbowl. With all due respect... You realize you just pretty much quoted 504 in his farewell thread? I didn't read the thread as I was out of town all weekend, but if he said that, I don't see anything wrong with it. I believe he's been banned for a week, and trust me... that wasn't what got him banned. It's been an accumulation of things that resulted in that. I made this thread yesterday and logged out. Never expecting to log in today and feel like I was surrounded by Atlanta Fans. Caddieman does not need to reply, it was done for him. You check how long some of us have been posting on this site... it's quite obvious we're all Falcon fans. The difference btw some of us and yourself, we aren't biased. I don't have to like them to to be logical and realistic. As far Caddieman... give the man his troll break. Their play speaks for itself... until we beat them this Sunday.
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12-23-2010, 09:11 AM	#17
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by CashAndFlash In other news, there's a sudden upsurge in Chris Farley references... good things are on the horizon.
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12-23-2010, 09:11 AM	#18
CashAndFlash Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 30 miles from Paradis Posts: 602 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by papz I was off to work so I couldn't respond to your post earlier... which would have taken a little more time. And when you compare them to us with those questions, it just makes it more impressive that they're doing more with less. It shows you don't have to have the elite quarterback, elite defense, yadda yadda yadda, to play damn good football... which they are at the moment. Individual statistics and rankings don't mean jack squat when a team is sitting at home with all those accolades with another football team playing in the Superbowl. I didn't read the thread as I was out of town all weekend, but if he said that, I don't see anything wrong with it. I believe he's been banned for a week, and trust me... that wasn't what got him banned. It's been an accumulation of things that resulted in that. You check how long some of us have been posting on this site... it's quite obvious we're all Falcon fans. The difference btw some of us and yourself, we aren't biased. I don't have to like them to to be logical and realistic. As far Caddieman... give the man his troll break. Their play speaks for itself... until we beat them this Sunday. I realize I'm still a relative newbie here new papz, but I have to disagree. When I watch the Falcons play, all I see is a house of cards. "You are what your record is" isn't nearly as convincing as "he with the ring, rules them all". edit: oh, and what got him banned was that he called out Halo... told him he shouldn't be a mod. the dude's a fool.
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12-23-2010, 09:15 AM	#19
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	self edit due to threadjack. I do wonder how this conversation would be going if Hartley makes that 12 yard FG back in October.
	Last edited by skymike; 12-23-2010 at 09:26 AM..

12-23-2010, 09:17 AM	#20
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Cash, I agree... he with the ring rules them all. None of us have that ring right now, but you've got to win football games to get there. And because of their record, a first round bye along with HFA is possible; therefore creating less obstacles and increasing their chances over ours to getting to the promise land. I wasn't solely basing my argument on the fact they have a better record than ours. It based on a combination of that, beating us, having a well balanced team, along with very skilled position players.