Looking at Atlanta through a clear lens

TheOak · 12-22-2010, 01:44 PM

I laugh my azz off when I hear the Falcons say we had an easy schedule. As if they had a ball breaking one...Lets look at theirs.

Pitt <--- ATL Lost
ARI <---- pfft
NO <---- They won. No excuses.
SF <-----pfft
CLE <-----pfft
PHI <--- ATL Lost
CIN <----pfft
TB <----pfft
BAL <---- Good team, ATL had them at home... HFA
STL <----pfft
GB <----- Good QB... End of story
TB <-----pfft
CAR <-----PFFT
SEA <-----pfft
pfft= I wouldn't brag!

So they lost to Pit, who we beat.
They Lost to Phil who we did not play.
They beat BAL by 5 with Home Field Advantage
They struggled with SF
They struggled with TB, who we blew out of the water..
Matty Sh*t stains is no where a top tier QB in this league.
They have the top WR and a top 5 RB and still can not break the top 10 in the NFL in Offense.
Their Defense is barely top 15.
Why in the hell is every one so impressed?

They call us one denominational. They have not faced Ivory yet... Anyway... They have the number 1 Wide receiver in the league in yardage, yet their QB is 11th in passing WTF?
They have the number 5 RB in the league in rushing yet their team still ranks 11th in total offense WTF?

Matt could not hold Drew's jock much less stand next to him in a skill line up.
They are 12th in Yards Per Game
Holly Crap! They are 26th in Yards /Play!

On paper and on the TV these guys impress no one. They really are not impressive.

95% of you who are quaking in your pants are doing so because the talking heads are telling you that you should.

Remember, these same talking heads said Brees was too short to be a great NFL QB. <---Shows you what they know about FootBall and Quarterbacks!

I hope this puts this team into perspective for some of you. W/L means nothing. They are not as good as you think they are. They sure in the hell are not as good as: "drumroll"

The Super Bowl Champion New Orleans Saints

papz · 12-22-2010, 02:10 PM

I think you should change the title of your thread because the Falcons are clearly a good football team and you are not looking at them through a clear lens. They have some very skilled position players and they're a well balanced team. On paper, they are impressive and at the end of the day, they're ranked higher and beat us head to head. Now while we can make all kinds of excuses to why we lost... we lost. When you say W/L's means nothing... it's means everything. Right now they're better than us... why is that so hard to admit? We've been struggling all season with close games and losing to the crappiest of teams.

You are right about one thing... the Falcons are not better than the Super Bowl Champs, they won the Superbowl. The 2010 Saints haven't done anything yet.

subguy · 12-22-2010, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I think you should change the title of your thread because the Falcons are clearly a good football team and you are not looking at them through a clear lens. They have some very skilled position players and they're a well balanced team. On paper, they are impressive and at the end of the day, they're ranked higher and beat us head to head. Now while we can make all kinds of excuses to why we lost... we lost. When you say W/L's means nothing... it's means everything. Right now they're better than us... why is that so hard to admit? We've been struggling all season with close games and losing to the crappiest of teams.

You are right about one thing... the Falcons are not better than the Super Bowl Champs, they won the Superbowl. The 2010 Saints haven't done anything yet.

Kinda puts it to rest....

saintsfan1976 · 12-22-2010, 08:34 PM

Papz, you ol thread-killer you...

SaintsBro · 12-22-2010, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

They have not faced Ivory yet...

Um, they HAVE faced Ivory. They pretty much stuffed him. 7 carries, 13 yards, most of which was on his first run. And he fumbled on 4th and 1 and THEY recovered. If you think they "haven't faced Ivory yet," implying that he's going to somehow be unleashed on the Falcons on Monday like a secret weapon they've never heard about, and he will suddenly run wild all over them for 150 yards like the Falcons are Tampa Bay's run defense, well... you might want to get a checkup from the eye doctor on that "lens" of yours. ...

|Mitch| · 12-23-2010, 03:27 AM

Not disputing, however;

Ivory has been running a lot better as the season has progressed and has also remedied his fumbling problem. Now if he can just find a way to make it through a whole game without injury we will be okay.

SaintPauly · 12-23-2010, 04:51 AM

I'm sorry guys, but are you saying there's "no hope" for us to win Monday night or what? I mean, if I'm reading into what you are saying wrong papz, I certainly apologize. It kind of reads like you don't believe we will win or something.....

Beastmode · 12-23-2010, 06:50 AM

Game to game comparisons are a flawed way of looking at the NFL but everybody does it including me. Case in point, there is a thread showing a circle of all the teams. Every team has lost to someone the other team beat. My point is there are way to many variables to compare W and L's as to which teams are good and which are bad. Most would say the Browns aren't that good this year but they sure were good enought to beat the Pats and Saints.

TheOak · 12-23-2010, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by papz

On paper, they are impressive and at the end of the day, they're ranked higher and beat us head to head.

Where are they impressive on paper? What news paper are you reading?

What particular stat "On Paper" do you find impressive? Maybe i am just not impressed by the same things you are. I gave Roddy White credit for leading the League in Passing yards, and gave Turner credit for his Rushing... Other than that, and their record (I pointed out why that is not impressive). I see nothing I need to worry about.

When you think Top QB, what name comes to mind?
When you think high powered high scoring Offense, what comes to mind?
When you think dominate Defense, what comes to mind?
"" amazing special teams?
"" head coach you do not want to face?
Not sure about you, but nothing "Atlanta" comes into my mind when i ask my self those questions.

And further more I never said they were not good, never said they were bad. What I said was "why in the hell is every one so impressed?"

My Title is fair and so is my post. And if you want to know what Team "on paper" impresses me? San Diego, they are either number 1 or number 2 in every team stat except for rushing. Maybe you do not understand the term "On Paper".

saintpaul25 seems to be the only one that understand where I am coming from. Some of you are mentally beat and we have just made it to Thursday.

saintsbro~ That was Ivory's first career game in the NFL! LOL I would say his game has evolved just a little.

Beastmode ~ You are correct. However when defending the "your schedule is weak" accusations, there really is no other way than to point out the weakness of their schedule.

papz · 12-23-2010, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

I'm sorry guys, but are you saying there's "no hope" for us to win Monday night or what? I mean, if I'm reading into what you are saying wrong papz, I certainly apologize. It kind of reads like you don't believe we will win or something.....

I haven't the least bit implied anything of that nature Paul... you misinterpreted the post. All that's being said is that right now they're the better football team than us... that by no means suggest we're going to lose to them. I'm confident if we can contain Turner, we'll come out on top as we should have the first game.

12-22-2010, 01:44 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Looking at Atlanta through a clear lens I laugh my azz off when I hear the Falcons say we had an easy schedule. As if they had a ball breaking one...Lets look at theirs. Pitt <--- ATL Lost ARI <---- pfft NO <---- They won. No excuses. SF <-----pfft CLE <-----pfft PHI <--- ATL Lost CIN <----pfft TB <----pfft BAL <---- Good team, ATL had them at home... HFA STL <----pfft GB <----- Good QB... End of story TB <-----pfft CAR <-----PFFT SEA <-----pfft pfft= I wouldn't brag! So they lost to Pit, who we beat. They Lost to Phil who we did not play. They beat BAL by 5 with Home Field Advantage They struggled with SF They struggled with TB, who we blew out of the water.. Matty Sh*t stains is no where a top tier QB in this league. They have the top WR and a top 5 RB and still can not break the top 10 in the NFL in Offense. Their Defense is barely top 15. Why in the hell is every one so impressed? They call us one denominational. They have not faced Ivory yet... Anyway... They have the number 1 Wide receiver in the league in yardage, yet their QB is 11th in passing WTF? They have the number 5 RB in the league in rushing yet their team still ranks 11th in total offense WTF? Matt could not hold Drew's jock much less stand next to him in a skill line up. They are 12th in Yards Per Game Holly Crap! They are 26th in Yards /Play! On paper and on the TV these guys impress no one. They really are not impressive. 95% of you who are quaking in your pants are doing so because the talking heads are telling you that you should. Remember, these same talking heads said Brees was too short to be a great NFL QB. <---Shows you what they know about FootBall and Quarterbacks! I hope this puts this team into perspective for some of you. W/L means nothing. They are not as good as you think they are. They sure in the hell are not as good as: "drumroll" The Super Bowl Champion New Orleans Saints
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

12-22-2010, 02:10 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	I think you should change the title of your thread because the Falcons are clearly a good football team and you are not looking at them through a clear lens. They have some very skilled position players and they're a well balanced team. On paper, they are impressive and at the end of the day, they're ranked higher and beat us head to head. Now while we can make all kinds of excuses to why we lost... we lost. When you say W/L's means nothing... it's means everything. Right now they're better than us... why is that so hard to admit? We've been struggling all season with close games and losing to the crappiest of teams. You are right about one thing... the Falcons are not better than the Super Bowl Champs, they won the Superbowl. The 2010 Saints haven't done anything yet.
	Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. All little common sense goes a long way.

12-22-2010, 06:35 PM	#3
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,096	Originally Posted by papz I think you should change the title of your thread because the Falcons are clearly a good football team and you are not looking at them through a clear lens. They have some very skilled position players and they're a well balanced team. On paper, they are impressive and at the end of the day, they're ranked higher and beat us head to head. Now while we can make all kinds of excuses to why we lost... we lost. When you say W/L's means nothing... it's means everything. Right now they're better than us... why is that so hard to admit? We've been struggling all season with close games and losing to the crappiest of teams. You are right about one thing... the Falcons are not better than the Super Bowl Champs, they won the Superbowl. The 2010 Saints haven't done anything yet. Kinda puts it to rest....

12-22-2010, 09:19 PM	#5
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by x626xBlack They have not faced Ivory yet... Um, they HAVE faced Ivory. They pretty much stuffed him. 7 carries, 13 yards, most of which was on his first run. And he fumbled on 4th and 1 and THEY recovered. If you think they "haven't faced Ivory yet," implying that he's going to somehow be unleashed on the Falcons on Monday like a secret weapon they've never heard about, and he will suddenly run wild all over them for 150 yards like the Falcons are Tampa Bay's run defense, well... you might want to get a checkup from the eye doctor on that "lens" of yours. ...

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SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	I'm sorry guys, but are you saying there's "no hope" for us to win Monday night or what? I mean, if I'm reading into what you are saying wrong papz, I certainly apologize. It kind of reads like you don't believe we will win or something.....

12-23-2010, 08:04 AM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by papz On paper, they are impressive and at the end of the day, they're ranked higher and beat us head to head. Where are they impressive on paper? What news paper are you reading? What particular stat "On Paper" do you find impressive? Maybe i am just not impressed by the same things you are. I gave Roddy White credit for leading the League in Passing yards, and gave Turner credit for his Rushing... Other than that, and their record (I pointed out why that is not impressive). I see nothing I need to worry about. When you think Top QB, what name comes to mind? When you think high powered high scoring Offense, what comes to mind? When you think dominate Defense, what comes to mind? "" amazing special teams? "" head coach you do not want to face? Not sure about you, but nothing "Atlanta" comes into my mind when i ask my self those questions. And further more I never said they were not good, never said they were bad. What I said was "why in the hell is every one so impressed?" My Title is fair and so is my post. And if you want to know what Team "on paper" impresses me? San Diego, they are either number 1 or number 2 in every team stat except for rushing. Maybe you do not understand the term "On Paper". saintpaul25 seems to be the only one that understand where I am coming from. Some of you are mentally beat and we have just made it to Thursday. saintsbro~ That was Ivory's first career game in the NFL! LOL I would say his game has evolved just a little. Beastmode ~ You are correct. However when defending the "your schedule is weak" accusations, there really is no other way than to point out the weakness of their schedule.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

12-23-2010, 08:13 AM	#10
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 I'm sorry guys, but are you saying there's "no hope" for us to win Monday night or what? I mean, if I'm reading into what you are saying wrong papz, I certainly apologize. It kind of reads like you don't believe we will win or something..... I haven't the least bit implied anything of that nature Paul... you misinterpreted the post. All that's being said is that right now they're the better football team than us... that by no means suggest we're going to lose to them. I'm confident if we can contain Turner, we'll come out on top as we should have the first game.