Hilton To Be Active and other news

BillyC · 11-17-2003, 07:03 PM

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Saints | Hilton To Be Active For Eagles Game - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:49:18 -0800

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints TE Zach Hilton will be active for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles because of the injury to TE Ernie Conwell. Hilton has been inactive for the last five weeks.

Saints | Rasby To Play In Two-TE Sets - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:49:16 -0800

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints TE Walter Rasby will also share time in two-tight end sets with injured TE Ernie Conwell out.

Saints | Williams To Start At TE - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:49:13 -0800

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints TE Boo Williams will start in place of injured TE Ernie Conwell.

Saints | Whitehead Plays Through Injury - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:48:53 -0800

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints DE Willie Whitehead (knee) has a sprained MCL in right knee, but played through the injury Sunday, Nov. 16, against the Atlanta Falcons. Whitehead's playing status for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles will be determined later in the week.

Saints | Stallworth Day-To-Day - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:48:51 -0800

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints WR Donte Stallworth (ankle) has a sprained ankle. Stallworth is listed as day-to-day and his playing status for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles will be determined later in the week.

Saints | Horn Day-To-Day - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:48:29 -0800

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints WR Joe Horn (knee) has a bone bruise in his left knee. Horn is listed as day-to-day and his playing status for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles will be determined later in the week.

Saints | Conwell To Undergo Surgery - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:48:13 -0800

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints TE Ernie Conwell (ankle) has a fractured right ankle and torn ligament in right ankle. Conwell is expected to undergo surgery Tuesday, Nov. 18, and the rehabilitation is expected to require an eight-week rehabilitation period. The club will wait until after the procedure to determine if they will place Conwell on the injured reserve list.

Saints | D. Smith Injury Update - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:48:02 -0800

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints LB Darrin Smith (hamstring) has a strained right hamstring. His playing status for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles will be determined later in the week.

Saints | Fenderson Injury Update - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:47:49 -0800

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints RB James Fenderson (foot) has a sprained ligament in his left foot. His playing status for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles will be determined later in the week.

Saints | D. Carter Injury Update - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:47:34 -0800

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints CB Dale Carter (quadriceps) has a strained left quadriceps muscle. His playing status for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles will be determined later in the week.

Saints | Holland To Start At LG - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:47:15 -0800

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints rookie OL Montrae Holland will start at the left guard position in place of injured OLG Kendyl Jacox.

ScottyRo · 11-17-2003, 09:11 PM

Anybody getting worried that Horn\'s injury is much worse than the team is letting on? They lied about the extent of Aaron\'s injury last year so it wouldn\'t surprise me a bit. It just seems that this \"bone bruise\" has been hampering him for longer than it should.

I\'m not slamming Horn here. He was in obvious pain Sunday and played as much as he could - even coming through in the clutch. I\'m just worried about his health.

WhoDat · 11-17-2003, 09:28 PM

Very good point Scotty. They did lie about Aaron last year.

BlackandBlue · 11-18-2003, 12:25 AM

Don\'t they have regulations in place to help keep \"false injury reports\" from happening?

saint5221 · 11-18-2003, 12:30 AM

Yea Haslett uses them to wipe his azz.

WhoDat · 11-18-2003, 09:53 AM

You can always hide behind two little words - \"incorrectly diagnosed\".

nocloning · 11-18-2003, 12:51 PM

\"Hilton to be active\" is such a misleading topic nowadays. I always think of little Paris when I read it.
Aaaaaanyway, we really need some of those players on the injured list to not only play but become healthy again. Especially a playmaker like Horn. Michael Lewis over the middle - effective as that play may be - is a pretty dangerous idea. If he gets popped once more by an Eagles safety he\'ll be looking for the sidelines even quicker on kick-offs.
How good was Whitehead against the Falcons?

BlackandBlue · 11-18-2003, 02:15 PM

You can always hide behind two little words - \"incorrectly diagnosed\".

Actually, I believe Shanahan was leveled with a heavy fine earlier in the season, despite using the above argument.
About the only thing you can get away with is stating that the player is \"questionable\", ie 50-50%.

saint5221 · 11-18-2003, 02:44 PM

Shanahan\"s fib came during the game and he openly addmitted to it after the game. He told the CBS broadcast team Plummer had a concussion and his return was questionable. Plummer, in fact, had a slight separation of his shoulder, but the coach deliberately fibbed in order to prevent the Chargers defense from knowing what the cause was of his early exodus from the game. Shanahan claimed he didn\'t want the Chargers to be able to go after the shoulder and they should therefore not be entitled to such information.
Shanahan never got fined for this, The league just sent out a warning saying next time there would be disciplinary action.

BillyC · 11-18-2003, 03:48 PM

I think all of this having to report injuries is BS. I know if I were injuried, I wouldn\'t want my team telling the other team exactly where I was injuried. Might as well put a big bullseye on the injury and invite the opposing team to go right for it. I guess the odds makers in Vegas want to be kept informed so they can change the line. Or, if you believe 08, injuries don\'t matter --

11-17-2003, 07:03 PM	#1
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Hilton To Be Active and other news kffl saints news Saints \| Hilton To Be Active For Eagles Game - from www.KFFL.com Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:49:18 -0800 Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints TE Zach Hilton will be active for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles because of the injury to TE Ernie Conwell. Hilton has been inactive for the last five weeks. Saints \| Rasby To Play In Two-TE Sets - from www.KFFL.com Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:49:16 -0800 Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints TE Walter Rasby will also share time in two-tight end sets with injured TE Ernie Conwell out. Saints \| Williams To Start At TE - from www.KFFL.com Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:49:13 -0800 Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints TE Boo Williams will start in place of injured TE Ernie Conwell. Saints \| Whitehead Plays Through Injury - from www.KFFL.com Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:48:53 -0800 Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints DE Willie Whitehead (knee) has a sprained MCL in right knee, but played through the injury Sunday, Nov. 16, against the Atlanta Falcons. Whitehead's playing status for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles will be determined later in the week. Saints \| Stallworth Day-To-Day - from www.KFFL.com Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:48:51 -0800 Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints WR Donte Stallworth (ankle) has a sprained ankle. Stallworth is listed as day-to-day and his playing status for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles will be determined later in the week. Saints \| Horn Day-To-Day - from www.KFFL.com Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:48:29 -0800 Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints WR Joe Horn (knee) has a bone bruise in his left knee. Horn is listed as day-to-day and his playing status for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles will be determined later in the week. Saints \| Conwell To Undergo Surgery - from www.KFFL.com Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:48:13 -0800 Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints TE Ernie Conwell (ankle) has a fractured right ankle and torn ligament in right ankle. Conwell is expected to undergo surgery Tuesday, Nov. 18, and the rehabilitation is expected to require an eight-week rehabilitation period. The club will wait until after the procedure to determine if they will place Conwell on the injured reserve list. Saints \| D. Smith Injury Update - from www.KFFL.com Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:48:02 -0800 Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints LB Darrin Smith (hamstring) has a strained right hamstring. His playing status for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles will be determined later in the week. Saints \| Fenderson Injury Update - from www.KFFL.com Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:47:49 -0800 Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints RB James Fenderson (foot) has a sprained ligament in his left foot. His playing status for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles will be determined later in the week. Saints \| D. Carter Injury Update - from www.KFFL.com Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:47:34 -0800 Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints CB Dale Carter (quadriceps) has a strained left quadriceps muscle. His playing status for the Sunday, Nov. 23, game against the Philadelphia Eagles will be determined later in the week. Saints \| Holland To Start At LG - from www.KFFL.com Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:47:15 -0800 Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints rookie OL Montrae Holland will start at the left guard position in place of injured OLG Kendyl Jacox.
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11-17-2003, 09:11 PM	#2
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Hilton To Be Active and other news Anybody getting worried that Horn\'s injury is much worse than the team is letting on? They lied about the extent of Aaron\'s injury last year so it wouldn\'t surprise me a bit. It just seems that this \"bone bruise\" has been hampering him for longer than it should. I\'m not slamming Horn here. He was in obvious pain Sunday and played as much as he could - even coming through in the clutch. I\'m just worried about his health.

11-17-2003, 09:28 PM	#3
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Hilton To Be Active and other news Very good point Scotty. They did lie about Aaron last year.
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11-18-2003, 12:25 AM	#4
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Hilton To Be Active and other news Don\'t they have regulations in place to help keep \"false injury reports\" from happening?

11-18-2003, 12:30 AM	#5
saint5221 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 598	Hilton To Be Active and other news Yea Haslett uses them to wipe his azz.
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11-18-2003, 09:53 AM	#6
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Hilton To Be Active and other news You can always hide behind two little words - \"incorrectly diagnosed\".
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11-18-2003, 12:51 PM	#7
nocloning 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 302	Hilton To Be Active and other news \"Hilton to be active\" is such a misleading topic nowadays. I always think of little Paris when I read it. Aaaaaanyway, we really need some of those players on the injured list to not only play but become healthy again. Especially a playmaker like Horn. Michael Lewis over the middle - effective as that play may be - is a pretty dangerous idea. If he gets popped once more by an Eagles safety he\'ll be looking for the sidelines even quicker on kick-offs. How good was Whitehead against the Falcons?
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11-18-2003, 02:15 PM	#8
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Hilton To Be Active and other news You can always hide behind two little words - \"incorrectly diagnosed\". Actually, I believe Shanahan was leveled with a heavy fine earlier in the season, despite using the above argument. About the only thing you can get away with is stating that the player is \"questionable\", ie 50-50%.

11-18-2003, 02:44 PM	#9
saint5221 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 598	Hilton To Be Active and other news Shanahan\"s fib came during the game and he openly addmitted to it after the game. He told the CBS broadcast team Plummer had a concussion and his return was questionable. Plummer, in fact, had a slight separation of his shoulder, but the coach deliberately fibbed in order to prevent the Chargers defense from knowing what the cause was of his early exodus from the game. Shanahan claimed he didn\'t want the Chargers to be able to go after the shoulder and they should therefore not be entitled to such information. Shanahan never got fined for this, The league just sent out a warning saying next time there would be disciplinary action.
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11-18-2003, 03:48 PM	#10
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Hilton To Be Active and other news I think all of this having to report injuries is BS. I know if I were injuried, I wouldn\'t want my team telling the other team exactly where I was injuried. Might as well put a big bullseye on the injury and invite the opposing team to go right for it. I guess the odds makers in Vegas want to be kept informed so they can change the line. Or, if you believe 08, injuries don\'t matter --
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