Saints Draft

jeanpierre · 03-11-2011, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Arizona DE Brooks Reed's 1.54 ten-yard split at the Scouting Combine was by far the fastest recorded by pass rushers in Indianapolis.

To put this in even greater perspective, Reed cleared ten yards quicker than A.J. Green, Jerrel Jernigan, Von Miller, and Randall Cobb. Reed's ten-yard split is Clay Matthews-like, which is ironic as the two are commonly compared. At 6-foot-3 and 263 pounds, Reed projects as a 3-4 outside linebacker in the league and has emerged as a sleeper for the first round.

Source: CBS Sports Mar 4, 2:17 PM

Brooks Reed*|*Arizona,*OLB*:*2011 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

Brooks Reed, Arizona, NFL Draft - DraftCountdown.com

This guy looks quite interesting.

Here you geaux

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/blog?name=nfl_draft&id=6201049

jeanpierre · 03-13-2011, 04:43 PM

JP's Saints Mock Draft (Wish List):

R1/24 Muhammad Wilkerson, DT - Temple (HT: 6-5 - WT: 305)

Athletic Big Man who would be a natural DE in a 3-4 alignment; but with his athletic ability could be a freak at the 3-technique positon; moving up draft boards into the first round now...

Alternate Picks: Ryan Kerrigan DE

R2/56 Mason Foster, WLB - Washington (HT: 6-1⅛ - WT: 241)

Marginal measurables, but his film tells a different story; he can bring the wood; John Madden/Mike Ditka type of player, old school; Durable and productive; Team Player...

Alternate Picks: Robert Sands S, Bruce Carter OLB

R3/72 Quinton Carter, S - Oklahoma (HT: 6-0⅝ - WT: 211)

Go to Roman Harper's Wikipedia page and you'll see 'em swinging a golf club; picking Carter would help 'em stay there; he has excellent coverage skills at S: Fluid, Good Angles, Smart and has excellent community track record; not sure he's be there this late but would be a steal at this slot ...

Alternate Picks: Jarvis Jenkins DT

R3/88 Joseph Barksdale, OT - LSU (HT: 6-4¾ - WT: 325)

Has all the physical tools; just has to geaux out there and punch someone in the mouth; could be a tremendous steal in Round 3 and set up the Saints OL on the right side for years to come...

Alternate Picks: Casey Matthews LB

R7/215 Willie Smith, T - East Carolina (HT: 6-5 - WT: 310)

Good Size, Range; key component to helping his school set new performance records on offense; unofficial stat of 40+ knockdowns (i.e. pancakes, slammers) while playing in Conference USA; former Tight End whose made transition to Left Tackle, so he could fit in with Coach Payton's player eligible play calling; could look to replenish depth should Bushrod or Strief depart...

Alternate Picks: Alex Henery K, Kenrick Ellis DT

jeanpierre · 03-13-2011, 11:22 PM

Unexpected find in the desert...

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Grigsby shines at Pro Day

Brad Allis

It was not business as usual for Arizona’s Pro Timing Day. A variety of factors made the event different than year’s past.

Thanks to the NCAA Tournament coming to McKale Center next week, the entirety of the Pro Day was held on the practice field. Normally the combine events are held inside. Events like the 40-yard dash, various cone drills, vertical jump and the bench press are normally conducted in the weight room where there is an indoor track and a lot of space for the other events. However, the weight room has been converted into a media room.

The weight room closure was not the only difference from the ordinary. Thanks to the University hosting the Festival of Books on the campus. This meant the campus, which is normally a ghost town on the first Saturday of Spring Break, was bustling with activity.

The other big change was since the NFL lockout began Friday night, only current seniors were allowed to participate. In most years any undrafted free agents can participate. Among the players who were going to participate this year were Louis Holmes, Nick Booth and Mike Diaz. Oddly enough, former Wildcats defensive lineman Johnathan Turner was eligible to participate and showed up 50 pounds lighter than his playing weight.

A strange consequence of the lockout is that the team scrambled to find a quarterback to throw to backs and receivers. With no senior quarterbacks, the team normally would have found a former college quarterback to throw. Last year Willie Tuitama threw, but not only was Tuitama not eligible but he is playing indoor football in Nebraska. A player like Kris Heavner was also ineligible so after consulting with the NFL and the school’s compliance officer, the Wildcats turned to high school players, most notably Jordan Scelfo, a senior at Salpointe and son of Arizona quarterback coach Frank Scelfo.

With Brooks Reed sitting out everything except the position specific drills, Nic Grigsby was the star of Pro Day. He looked to be in terrific shape, then had a 43.5” vertical jump and then ran a sub 4.4 in the 40 (clocks had it between 4.31 and 4.36).

Travis Cobb was also clocked in the 4.38 range.

Ricky Elmore had a solid outing as well. His measurables were good and he showed good movement in the position drills.

Also working out was Corey Elmore. Elmore gave up college football with a heart ailment. He had been bodybuilding but recently decided to take up football again when he announced he’d play for a professional indoor team that was coming to Tucson. The team folded before a game was played and Elmore decided to try to see if he could impress college scouts.

Right now Brooks Reed is projected as a second or third rounder, although a recent ESPN mock draft had Reed as the final pick in the first round.

Ricky Elmore, Colin Baxter and D’Aundre Reed are also likely draft picks, though with his workout, Grigsby may have moved his way into the late rounds.

Grigsby shines at Pro Day

saintsfan1976 · 03-14-2011, 11:59 AM

You can cite combine measurements all day long, but we know that doesn't translate as well as it should to how players "PLAY" football during a game.

jeanpierre · 03-16-2011, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

You can cite combine measurements all day long, but we know that doesn't translate as well as it should to how players "PLAY" football during a game.

Excellent point; but Julio Jones running as well as he did on a broken foot at the combine got a lot of people interested; and you can't ignore that fact.

saintsfan1976 · 03-16-2011, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Excellent point; but Julio Jones running as well as he did on a broken foot at the combine got a lot of people interested; and you can't ignore that fact.

Ummm - Julio is a straight up FREAK! The more I hear about him, the more I like. IMO, he should go before AJ Green.

But my point was in reference to all the split times, cone times, shuttle times, etc...

papz · 03-16-2011, 09:34 AM

Maybe it was their quarterback play in Alabama and maybe it wasn't... but he did not play up to his potential at Alabama. Sure he's a physical freak, but AJ Green is polished an a absolute monster. I can't remember ever labeling a WR this early(because yea it's premature and stupid), but if Green stays healthy throughout his career, I can see him knocking on Canton's door when it's all said and done.

Danno · 03-16-2011, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Maybe it was their quarterback play in Alabama and maybe it wasn't... but he did not play up to his potential at Alabama. Sure he's a physical freak, but AJ Green is polished an a absolute monster. I can't remember ever labeling a WR this early(because yea it's premature and stupid), but if Green stays healthy throughout his career, I can see him knocking on Canton's door when it's all said and done.

Not sure I buy that. Bama runs a pretty conservative ball-control offense, which I would too with Ingram and Richardson in the backfield, so McElroy (QB) didn't target him as much. He spreads the ball around alot too so no one WR is gonna get all the targets.

And McElroy is a very hot/cold QB, more often cold than hot.

In 2010 Jones played with a broken hand with a steel rod insert. If Bama ran a wide open offense he'd have put up outstanding numbers.

What many don't realize is that Julio Jones is an outstanding blocker in the run game.

His only true knock is that he does have the occasional dropsies, but not anything like Devery's 1st few years here. He has great hands, Dude can palm a medicine ball.

papz · 03-16-2011, 11:04 AM

I agree with most of that but... as the top can't miss WR prospect coming into Bama, his expectations was to light college football on fire and put up world beating numbers. I understand McElroy wasn't great and they ran a ball control offense which did attribute to that. But, I still have to say he disappointed as far as living up to what he was suppose to be in college. I must admit the expectations were quite lofty.

If it makes you feel any better, I do think he's going to be an excellent pro... I just think AJ Green's game breaking ability makes him the better talent.

jeanpierre · 03-16-2011, 06:37 PM

Julio Jones is a warrior; and the more I think about it, if he fell to us, I wouldn't be disappointed one bit...

Cool Brees playing and Colston singing "...me and Julio down by the schoolyard..."

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03-11-2011, 08:54 AM	#221
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by papz Arizona DE Brooks Reed's 1.54 ten-yard split at the Scouting Combine was by far the fastest recorded by pass rushers in Indianapolis. To put this in even greater perspective, Reed cleared ten yards quicker than A.J. Green, Jerrel Jernigan, Von Miller, and Randall Cobb. Reed's ten-yard split is Clay Matthews-like, which is ironic as the two are commonly compared. At 6-foot-3 and 263 pounds, Reed projects as a 3-4 outside linebacker in the league and has emerged as a sleeper for the first round. Source: CBS Sports Mar 4, 2:17 PM Brooks Reed\|Arizona,OLB:*2011 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile Brooks Reed, Arizona, NFL Draft - DraftCountdown.com This guy looks quite interesting. Here you geaux http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/blog?name=nfl_draft&id=6201049
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03-13-2011, 04:43 PM	#222
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	JP's Saints Mock Draft (Wish List): R1/24 Muhammad Wilkerson, DT - Temple (HT: 6-5 - WT: 305) Athletic Big Man who would be a natural DE in a 3-4 alignment; but with his athletic ability could be a freak at the 3-technique positon; moving up draft boards into the first round now... Alternate Picks: Ryan Kerrigan DE R2/56 Mason Foster, WLB - Washington (HT: 6-1⅛ - WT: 241) Marginal measurables, but his film tells a different story; he can bring the wood; John Madden/Mike Ditka type of player, old school; Durable and productive; Team Player... Alternate Picks: Robert Sands S, Bruce Carter OLB R3/72 Quinton Carter, S - Oklahoma (HT: 6-0⅝ - WT: 211) Go to Roman Harper's Wikipedia page and you'll see 'em swinging a golf club; picking Carter would help 'em stay there; he has excellent coverage skills at S: Fluid, Good Angles, Smart and has excellent community track record; not sure he's be there this late but would be a steal at this slot ... Alternate Picks: Jarvis Jenkins DT R3/88 Joseph Barksdale, OT - LSU (HT: 6-4¾ - WT: 325) Has all the physical tools; just has to geaux out there and punch someone in the mouth; could be a tremendous steal in Round 3 and set up the Saints OL on the right side for years to come... Alternate Picks: Casey Matthews LB R7/215 Willie Smith, T - East Carolina (HT: 6-5 - WT: 310) Good Size, Range; key component to helping his school set new performance records on offense; unofficial stat of 40+ knockdowns (i.e. pancakes, slammers) while playing in Conference USA; former Tight End whose made transition to Left Tackle, so he could fit in with Coach Payton's player eligible play calling; could look to replenish depth should Bushrod or Strief depart... Alternate Picks: Alex Henery K, Kenrick Ellis DT
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03-13-2011, 11:22 PM	#223
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Unexpected find in the desert... Originally Posted by jeanpierre Grigsby shines at Pro Day Brad Allis It was not business as usual for Arizona’s Pro Timing Day. A variety of factors made the event different than year’s past. Thanks to the NCAA Tournament coming to McKale Center next week, the entirety of the Pro Day was held on the practice field. Normally the combine events are held inside. Events like the 40-yard dash, various cone drills, vertical jump and the bench press are normally conducted in the weight room where there is an indoor track and a lot of space for the other events. However, the weight room has been converted into a media room. The weight room closure was not the only difference from the ordinary. Thanks to the University hosting the Festival of Books on the campus. This meant the campus, which is normally a ghost town on the first Saturday of Spring Break, was bustling with activity. The other big change was since the NFL lockout began Friday night, only current seniors were allowed to participate. In most years any undrafted free agents can participate. Among the players who were going to participate this year were Louis Holmes, Nick Booth and Mike Diaz. Oddly enough, former Wildcats defensive lineman Johnathan Turner was eligible to participate and showed up 50 pounds lighter than his playing weight. A strange consequence of the lockout is that the team scrambled to find a quarterback to throw to backs and receivers. With no senior quarterbacks, the team normally would have found a former college quarterback to throw. Last year Willie Tuitama threw, but not only was Tuitama not eligible but he is playing indoor football in Nebraska. A player like Kris Heavner was also ineligible so after consulting with the NFL and the school’s compliance officer, the Wildcats turned to high school players, most notably Jordan Scelfo, a senior at Salpointe and son of Arizona quarterback coach Frank Scelfo. With Brooks Reed sitting out everything except the position specific drills, Nic Grigsby was the star of Pro Day. He looked to be in terrific shape, then had a 43.5” vertical jump and then ran a sub 4.4 in the 40 (clocks had it between 4.31 and 4.36). Travis Cobb was also clocked in the 4.38 range. Ricky Elmore had a solid outing as well. His measurables were good and he showed good movement in the position drills. Also working out was Corey Elmore. Elmore gave up college football with a heart ailment. He had been bodybuilding but recently decided to take up football again when he announced he’d play for a professional indoor team that was coming to Tucson. The team folded before a game was played and Elmore decided to try to see if he could impress college scouts. Right now Brooks Reed is projected as a second or third rounder, although a recent ESPN mock draft had Reed as the final pick in the first round. Ricky Elmore, Colin Baxter and D’Aundre Reed are also likely draft picks, though with his workout, Grigsby may have moved his way into the late rounds. Grigsby shines at Pro Day

03-16-2011, 06:45 AM	#225
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 You can cite combine measurements all day long, but we know that doesn't translate as well as it should to how players "PLAY" football during a game. Excellent point; but Julio Jones running as well as he did on a broken foot at the combine got a lot of people interested; and you can't ignore that fact.

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03-14-2011, 11:59 AM	#224
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	You can cite combine measurements all day long, but we know that doesn't translate as well as it should to how players "PLAY" football during a game.

03-16-2011, 08:13 AM	#226
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Excellent point; but Julio Jones running as well as he did on a broken foot at the combine got a lot of people interested; and you can't ignore that fact. Ummm - Julio is a straight up FREAK! The more I hear about him, the more I like. IMO, he should go before AJ Green. But my point was in reference to all the split times, cone times, shuttle times, etc...

03-16-2011, 09:34 AM	#227
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Maybe it was their quarterback play in Alabama and maybe it wasn't... but he did not play up to his potential at Alabama. Sure he's a physical freak, but AJ Green is polished an a absolute monster. I can't remember ever labeling a WR this early(because yea it's premature and stupid), but if Green stays healthy throughout his career, I can see him knocking on Canton's door when it's all said and done.

03-16-2011, 10:11 AM	#228
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by papz Maybe it was their quarterback play in Alabama and maybe it wasn't... but he did not play up to his potential at Alabama. Sure he's a physical freak, but AJ Green is polished an a absolute monster. I can't remember ever labeling a WR this early(because yea it's premature and stupid), but if Green stays healthy throughout his career, I can see him knocking on Canton's door when it's all said and done. Not sure I buy that. Bama runs a pretty conservative ball-control offense, which I would too with Ingram and Richardson in the backfield, so McElroy (QB) didn't target him as much. He spreads the ball around alot too so no one WR is gonna get all the targets. And McElroy is a very hot/cold QB, more often cold than hot. In 2010 Jones played with a broken hand with a steel rod insert. If Bama ran a wide open offense he'd have put up outstanding numbers. What many don't realize is that Julio Jones is an outstanding blocker in the run game. His only true knock is that he does have the occasional dropsies, but not anything like Devery's 1st few years here. He has great hands, Dude can palm a medicine ball.

03-16-2011, 11:04 AM	#229
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	I agree with most of that but... as the top can't miss WR prospect coming into Bama, his expectations was to light college football on fire and put up world beating numbers. I understand McElroy wasn't great and they ran a ball control offense which did attribute to that. But, I still have to say he disappointed as far as living up to what he was suppose to be in college. I must admit the expectations were quite lofty. If it makes you feel any better, I do think he's going to be an excellent pro... I just think AJ Green's game breaking ability makes him the better talent.
	Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. All little common sense goes a long way.

03-16-2011, 06:37 PM	#230
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Julio Jones is a warrior; and the more I think about it, if he fell to us, I wouldn't be disappointed one bit... Cool Brees playing and Colston singing "...me and Julio down by the schoolyard..."