Saints Draft

jeanpierre · 01-12-2011, 04:31 PM

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jeanpierre · 01-13-2011, 07:54 AM

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NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: BRUCE CARTER, OLB, NORTH CAROLINA
Bruce Carter | North Carolina Tar Heels

Scouting Report

The Saints didn’t plan on losing Scott Fujita as a free agent last offseason but when Cleveland made the outside linebacker a deal he couldn’t refuse it left New Orleans in a bind. Granted the team has some youngsters they seem to like but they are all unproven and at this point that hole on the weakside sticks out like a sore thumb. North Carolina’s Bruce Carter is an extremely fast, smooth and athletic ‘backer Bruce Carter | North Carolina Tar Heels with a flair for the big play. As an added bonus Carter also excels on special teams and is arguably the best kick blocker in all of football, college or pros. Carter, who should really turn heads and impress in pre-draft workouts, would represent a major upgrade on the weakside and finally solidify the position once and for all. The Saints could also use some reinforcements at defensive end opposite Will Smith, where Alex Brown is more of a journeyman and there's little or no quality depth to speak.

st thomas · 01-13-2011, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

YouTube - Illinois RB Mikel LeShoure 2009 Highlights 6.8 ypc

Kid looks decent, looks like a straight ahead guy that can bounce to the outside if need be, but first priority to him lies north and south.
Good speed for his size

looks like p.t. II

ClintSaints · 01-13-2011, 02:29 PM

Can someone help me out? How do I start a new thread?

jcp026 · 01-13-2011, 02:34 PM

I wish I knew. I've never figured that out.

papz · 01-13-2011, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by ClintSaints

Can someone help me out? How do I start a new thread?

Go back into the forum and 1/4 of the way down on the left hand side you will see a "New Thread" box. Click on it and submit a title and put the rest of the thread's content below it. Submit. If it's pertaining to the draft, I would just keep it in here or you can go to the Draft section of the forum and post away.

SAINT_MICHAEL · 01-13-2011, 05:32 PM

I think it's worth reviewing how the feelings were before last year's draft. After a dominant offensive performance during the 2009-10 season and winning the SB, fans were thinking the Saints needed to upgrade the D to make a team of dynasty.

But, rather than go all out on D as some put forth at the time (and some are now), the team picked up these guys:

Graham - We all know what he showed and his potential

Brown - With the lack of run blocking at times this season help/competition on O line can only be a good thing.

Tennant - See above

Plus even though our first pick was on D, a DB was not where most though our weakness was.

The team is in a similar position now in that due to the playoff performance, a glaring need to shore up the D is perceived. But looking at the upcoming draft, it's worth noting that our D rankings improved drastically this year with the exception of turnovers. Now that is an important stat, but it can be argued that many turnovers are a result of lucky bounces. Sure, some of it is how teams are coached, but many here have griped about the "strip the ball tackle technique the team used during the year too.

Also, unlike last year when everyone felt great about our offensive weapons, this season showed that our RB situation is questionable at best. In addition, our WRs on the whole underperformed as a group. Colston and Henderson definitely regressed and far too many balls were dropped all year. Heck, if our WRs had caught balls like Seattle's did in the playoff game we'd still be alive. I know I expect to see as much of an improved performance from both those two groups as I do from any of the defensive units if they want to be a dynasty team.

So, while I feel like the D side of the ball needs upgrade (LB or DE first), I don't think it's as cut and dry as saying "Go get pass rush help!" Payton has shown, on and off the field, that he plays by his own rules and as such, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see an influx of new offensive talent in the draft. I'm not so sure I'd be disappointed in it either. That type of thinking may have landed us the best TE the NFL has seen in a long while.

jeanpierre · 01-13-2011, 09:03 PM

Regarding Draft and Needs at OLB...

I see alot of Shanle bashing on this site and at the two games I went to and I don't like it and this is why...

While at the games I saw Shanle make several tackles and heard people holla how he was beat, again, that sort of thing...

And when you looked at the replay another LB or DE failed to drop into coverage and he was providing support...

Sure he's no All-pro, but he's a consistent, good, solid pro and I for one admire him, his effort and ethic, and am glad we have 'em...

Now if an outstanding talent AND character is available when the Saints select or have an opportunity to move to a spot, sure, but the more glaring weaknesses exposed late and in the playoffs were Running Back/Power Back, Strong Safety/Safety Depth, Defensive Tackle/End, Offensive Right Tackle...

jeanpierre · 01-14-2011, 09:02 AM

Is Matt Tennant going to replace Goodwin this season?

saintsfan1976 · 01-14-2011, 09:07 AM

This is Bruce Carter waving "hello" to Shanle's starting spot.

View Poll Results: What position(s) are priority for the Saints ?
Defensive Tackle	25	32.05%
Defensive End	26	33.33%
Outside Linebacker	43	55.13%
Running Back	25	32.05%
Wide Receiver	3	3.85%
Offensive Line	11	14.10%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll

01-13-2011, 07:54 AM	#82
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	draftcountdown.com NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: BRUCE CARTER, OLB, NORTH CAROLINA Bruce Carter \| North Carolina Tar Heels Scouting Report The Saints didn’t plan on losing Scott Fujita as a free agent last offseason but when Cleveland made the outside linebacker a deal he couldn’t refuse it left New Orleans in a bind. Granted the team has some youngsters they seem to like but they are all unproven and at this point that hole on the weakside sticks out like a sore thumb. North Carolina’s Bruce Carter is an extremely fast, smooth and athletic ‘backer Bruce Carter \| North Carolina Tar Heels with a flair for the big play. As an added bonus Carter also excels on special teams and is arguably the best kick blocker in all of football, college or pros. Carter, who should really turn heads and impress in pre-draft workouts, would represent a major upgrade on the weakside and finally solidify the position once and for all. The Saints could also use some reinforcements at defensive end opposite Will Smith, where Alex Brown is more of a journeyman and there's little or no quality depth to speak.
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01-13-2011, 02:22 PM	#83
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Originally Posted by dizzle88 YouTube - Illinois RB Mikel LeShoure 2009 Highlights 6.8 ypc Kid looks decent, looks like a straight ahead guy that can bounce to the outside if need be, but first priority to him lies north and south. Good speed for his size looks like p.t. II

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Originally Posted by ClintSaints Can someone help me out? How do I start a new thread? Go back into the forum and 1/4 of the way down on the left hand side you will see a "New Thread" box. Click on it and submit a title and put the rest of the thread's content below it. Submit. If it's pertaining to the draft, I would just keep it in here or you can go to the Draft section of the forum and post away.

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SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	I think it's worth reviewing how the feelings were before last year's draft. After a dominant offensive performance during the 2009-10 season and winning the SB, fans were thinking the Saints needed to upgrade the D to make a team of dynasty. But, rather than go all out on D as some put forth at the time (and some are now), the team picked up these guys: Graham - We all know what he showed and his potential Brown - With the lack of run blocking at times this season help/competition on O line can only be a good thing. Tennant - See above Plus even though our first pick was on D, a DB was not where most though our weakness was. The team is in a similar position now in that due to the playoff performance, a glaring need to shore up the D is perceived. But looking at the upcoming draft, it's worth noting that our D rankings improved drastically this year with the exception of turnovers. Now that is an important stat, but it can be argued that many turnovers are a result of lucky bounces. Sure, some of it is how teams are coached, but many here have griped about the "strip the ball tackle technique the team used during the year too. Also, unlike last year when everyone felt great about our offensive weapons, this season showed that our RB situation is questionable at best. In addition, our WRs on the whole underperformed as a group. Colston and Henderson definitely regressed and far too many balls were dropped all year. Heck, if our WRs had caught balls like Seattle's did in the playoff game we'd still be alive. I know I expect to see as much of an improved performance from both those two groups as I do from any of the defensive units if they want to be a dynasty team. So, while I feel like the D side of the ball needs upgrade (LB or DE first), I don't think it's as cut and dry as saying "Go get pass rush help!" Payton has shown, on and off the field, that he plays by his own rules and as such, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see an influx of new offensive talent in the draft. I'm not so sure I'd be disappointed in it either. That type of thinking may have landed us the best TE the NFL has seen in a long while.
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01-13-2011, 09:03 PM	#88
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Regarding Draft and Needs at OLB... I see alot of Shanle bashing on this site and at the two games I went to and I don't like it and this is why... While at the games I saw Shanle make several tackles and heard people holla how he was beat, again, that sort of thing... And when you looked at the replay another LB or DE failed to drop into coverage and he was providing support... Sure he's no All-pro, but he's a consistent, good, solid pro and I for one admire him, his effort and ethic, and am glad we have 'em... Now if an outstanding talent AND character is available when the Saints select or have an opportunity to move to a spot, sure, but the more glaring weaknesses exposed late and in the playoffs were Running Back/Power Back, Strong Safety/Safety Depth, Defensive Tackle/End, Offensive Right Tackle...
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