What do you think of Sean Payton moving to Dallas?

ClintSaints · 02-08-2011, 12:20 PM

So it appears as though much hay has been made over Sean Payton wanting to raise his family in North Texas and not New Orleans. Here is my take on the matter: Sean Payton is the best thing that ever happened to the New Orleans Saints and I think that we as fans would be silly to alienate him over wanting to raise his family somewhere else. Three playoff runs out of five years as head coach and a Super Bowl victory to boot automatically make him one of the very best coaches in the NFL today.

We must also keep in mind that Sean Payton lived in Dallas for three years before arriving in New Orleans and even inquired about keeping his home base in Dallas when he was negotiating for the Saints' post. I say this: as long as he remains effective as our head coach, who are we to criticize him over where he wants to raise his family?

st thomas · 02-08-2011, 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=ClintSaints;284562]So it appears as though much hay has been made over Sean Payton wanting to raise his family in North Texas and not New Orleans. Here is my take on the matter: Sean Payton is the best thing that ever happened to the New Orleans Saints and I think that we as fans would be silly to alienate him over wanting to raise his family somewhere else. Three playoff runs out of five years as head coach and a Super Bowl victory to boot automatically make him one of the very best coaches in the NFL today.

CLINT, i don't disagree with u at all i voted it bothered me because i know the end is near, 1,2,3, years who knows but its coming and the man loves challenges and he will find another one coming soon. and i would back anyone up who would like to better them selves in any job market.

Danno · 02-08-2011, 12:39 PM

I think his wife liked Dallas better than New Orleans

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2011, 02:15 PM

Scott van Pelt made a great observation on his show today. There are no state taxes in Texas. If he maintains a Texas based home as a primary residence (ie. kids in school and such) his tax savings would be huge.

Danno · 02-08-2011, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Scott van Pelt made a great observation on his show today. There are no state taxes in Texas. If he maintains a Texas based home as a primary residence (ie. kids in school and such) his tax savings would be huge.

He still has to pay Louisiana Income Tax due his employer being located in Louisiana.

gocowboysgo · 02-08-2011, 03:03 PM

I doubt he's leaving the Saints anytime soon. Maybe when the Saints championship window closes he leaves for a front office job in Dallas, but the Saints window is a long way from being over,

SapperSaint · 02-08-2011, 03:06 PM

Look, I love Louisiana. Most of my family are native to the State. But I can only take so much of NOLA. No offense to the current folks who reside there. However, if you didn't grow up there, it's a little much to deal with.

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2011, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

He still has to pay Louisiana Income Tax due his employer being located in Louisiana.

Actually, his employer is incorporated in Texas.

New Orleans Saints Football in Metairie, LA is a private company categorized under Football Clubs. Our records show it was established in 1985 and incorporated in Texas. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $20 to 50 million and employs a staff of approximately 100 to 249.

I would think a loop-hole most likely appears if the corporation you work for is incorporated Texas and your principal residence is Texas. It has been several years since I studied tax law, but there is probably a very defensible precedent.

Danno · 02-08-2011, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Actually, his employer is incorporated in Texas.

New Orleans Saints Football in Metairie, LA is a private company categorized under Football Clubs. Our records show it was established in 1985 and incorporated in Texas. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $20 to 50 million and employs a staff of approximately 100 to 249.

I would think a loop-hole most likely appears if the corporation you work for is incorporated Texas and your principal residence is Texas. It has been several years since I studied tax law, but there is probably a very defensible precedent.

I read elsewhere that since the check is cut in Louisiana, it counts as Louisiana income. Not sure if thats correct, but its what I read.

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2011, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I read elsewhere that since the check is cut in Louisiana, it counts as Louisiana income. Not sure if thats correct, but its what I read.

Checks can be cut anywhere. Many corporations outsource payroll services. Workers in Colorado, commuting from Wyoming, could be getting paid working for a Michigan firm with payments coming from a California bank on checks generated at a New Jersey human resources firm.

Lots of gray involved.

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02-08-2011, 12:20 PM	#1
ClintSaints 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 603	What do you think of Sean Payton moving to Dallas? So it appears as though much hay has been made over Sean Payton wanting to raise his family in North Texas and not New Orleans. Here is my take on the matter: Sean Payton is the best thing that ever happened to the New Orleans Saints and I think that we as fans would be silly to alienate him over wanting to raise his family somewhere else. Three playoff runs out of five years as head coach and a Super Bowl victory to boot automatically make him one of the very best coaches in the NFL today. We must also keep in mind that Sean Payton lived in Dallas for three years before arriving in New Orleans and even inquired about keeping his home base in Dallas when he was negotiating for the Saints' post. I say this: as long as he remains effective as our head coach, who are we to criticize him over where he wants to raise his family?

02-08-2011, 12:30 PM	#2
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	[QUOTE=ClintSaints;284562]So it appears as though much hay has been made over Sean Payton wanting to raise his family in North Texas and not New Orleans. Here is my take on the matter: Sean Payton is the best thing that ever happened to the New Orleans Saints and I think that we as fans would be silly to alienate him over wanting to raise his family somewhere else. Three playoff runs out of five years as head coach and a Super Bowl victory to boot automatically make him one of the very best coaches in the NFL today. CLINT, i don't disagree with u at all i voted it bothered me because i know the end is near, 1,2,3, years who knows but its coming and the man loves challenges and he will find another one coming soon. and i would back anyone up who would like to better them selves in any job market.
	thats the fact jack!!!!!

02-08-2011, 02:39 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Scott van Pelt made a great observation on his show today. There are no state taxes in Texas. If he maintains a Texas based home as a primary residence (ie. kids in school and such) his tax savings would be huge. He still has to pay Louisiana Income Tax due his employer being located in Louisiana.

02-08-2011, 03:03 PM	#6
gocowboysgo Rookie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 13	I doubt he's leaving the Saints anytime soon. Maybe when the Saints championship window closes he leaves for a front office job in Dallas, but the Saints window is a long way from being over,
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02-08-2011, 12:39 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	I think his wife liked Dallas better than New Orleans

02-08-2011, 02:15 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Scott van Pelt made a great observation on his show today. There are no state taxes in Texas. If he maintains a Texas based home as a primary residence (ie. kids in school and such) his tax savings would be huge.

02-08-2011, 03:06 PM	#7
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Look, I love Louisiana. Most of my family are native to the State. But I can only take so much of NOLA. No offense to the current folks who reside there. However, if you didn't grow up there, it's a little much to deal with.

02-08-2011, 03:50 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Originally Posted by Danno He still has to pay Louisiana Income Tax due his employer being located in Louisiana. Actually, his employer is incorporated in Texas. New Orleans Saints Football in Metairie, LA is a private company categorized under Football Clubs. Our records show it was established in 1985 and incorporated in Texas. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $20 to 50 million and employs a staff of approximately 100 to 249. I would think a loop-hole most likely appears if the corporation you work for is incorporated Texas and your principal residence is Texas. It has been several years since I studied tax law, but there is probably a very defensible precedent.

02-08-2011, 03:56 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Actually, his employer is incorporated in Texas. New Orleans Saints Football in Metairie, LA is a private company categorized under Football Clubs. Our records show it was established in 1985 and incorporated in Texas. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $20 to 50 million and employs a staff of approximately 100 to 249. I would think a loop-hole most likely appears if the corporation you work for is incorporated Texas and your principal residence is Texas. It has been several years since I studied tax law, but there is probably a very defensible precedent. I read elsewhere that since the check is cut in Louisiana, it counts as Louisiana income. Not sure if thats correct, but its what I read.

02-08-2011, 04:05 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Originally Posted by Danno I read elsewhere that since the check is cut in Louisiana, it counts as Louisiana income. Not sure if thats correct, but its what I read. Checks can be cut anywhere. Many corporations outsource payroll services. Workers in Colorado, commuting from Wyoming, could be getting paid working for a Michigan firm with payments coming from a California bank on checks generated at a New Jersey human resources firm. Lots of gray involved.